OK Well thanks for setting me straight. The gal I spoke to at the museum checked her list of active displays for the info and the Robot wasn't listed so it isn't on display. When I checked the website I couldn't find it either and in the past it was listed. My old laptop died last year so I don't have access to the pictures I took of the Robot and the plaque that was with it.
Also, I contacted CraigR and he should be adding what he know on this topic here shortly.
Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
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From: "ponyboy8844
ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: "Robot Builders"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 6:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Paul for sure bought the stunt. Had it restored by Fred Barton and had it on display at the Sci-fi museum since he owns that too. I don't think he bought the hero or it would have been on display there also. I wonder why the stunt is no longer on display though? The receptionist probably just didn't know. -Roy
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From: "Charlie's BatCave
batcave@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 4:45 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: "Group, B9"
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
I may be wrong but I am thinking Paul Allen bought the Hero from Kevin in 1998 or 1999. I think that when the Dunny was restored it was sold or donated to the Sci-Fi Museum I just called and spoke to the Admin Office and she didn't think that Robot was owned by Paul Allen but since it is currently NOT on display she couldn't tell me for certain.
Anyway that's how I remember it.
Mike Joyce needs to chime in here.
Mike??
Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
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From: "ponyboy8844
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To: "Robot Builders"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:21:21 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Hi Charlie! I thought Paul Allen only owned the stunt robot that now resides in the Sci-fi museum in Seattle. Does he own the hero also? -Roy
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From: "Charlie's BatCave
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Date: 01/25/2016 4:08 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: "Group, B9"
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Well that sucks....let's see if I can remember....
MikeJ does NOT own the hero Robot, never did. When it was for sale, Michael Jackson was going to purchase it but when he found out how bad it was he backed out. Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc now owns it.
The MikeJ torso or TimK/MikeJ, torso is reverse engineered.
The Torso that was used in the B9 Creations Replicas by MikeJ are made from the original molds provided to B9 Ceations by Kevin Burns.
The torso for the B9 Creation. is now referred to "The V-2 Torso" that you can purchase from Craig R.
All the rubber parts, legs, knees, arms and bubble lifter boot for the B9 Creations Replica were made by Will Huff and are the same parts you can buy today. Same stuff.
I think that about covers it....
Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
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From: "sandy rivera
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:24:55 PM
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Charlie, Were you going to say something? Your message didn't come through.
From: "Charlie's BatCave
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To: "Group, B9"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Charlie
RoboCon
The Place Where Robots Meet
www.robocondenver.com
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From: "ponyboy8844
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To: "Robot Builders"
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent. -Roy
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From: "sandy rivera
sandrockriver996@yahoo.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To:
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Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???
From: "ponyboy8844
ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
To: Robot Builders
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'! -Roy
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From: "ponyboy8844
ponyboy8844@comcast.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 10:22 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Robot Builders
Subject: RE: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
Are you saying Mike owns the hero?
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From: "
quadrant-6@nyc.rr.com [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/24/2016 9:24 PM (GMT-07:00)
To:
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Subject: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side
This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.
Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.
I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.
As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.
As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL
Garry
Hey Guys,
MikeJ does NOT own the original Hero B9. He was allowed to use original molds and other items owned by Kevin Burns to use in making the B9 Creations Replica. The rubber, legs, arms and bubble boot is made by Will Huff. The same product he is selling to the builders today. The original Hero Robot is owned by Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc. The "Dummy" Robot was restored and is in th Sci-Fi Museum in Seattle.
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The B9 Robot Builders Club Visiting Kevin Burns in LA, April 2005 04/05/2005 View on b9robotbuildersclub... Preview by Yahoo 