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[LPetty4585@aol.com]

I just checked my valves both intakes at .004 both exhaust at .006, tight side of scale . Should I change to next size smaller or wait a couple K to change them. As next size down would give me .006 and .008 middle of range. Thanks Larry

[Rob MacLeod]

I was thinking about one of my project bikes the other day (76 Z900) particularly about the fact that the valve shims from my A12 are identical. I know from second hand experience that the old Kawis could spit a shim at high rpm and destroy lots of good stuff, thus the move to 'shim-under' buckets. I often ride my KLR up to redline but now I wonder if I risk spitting a shim. I am not aware of a rev limiter on the KLR (I have yet to reach its limit if it has one). Any thoughts out there on a sunny Friday? Rob

[Weaver, Mark]

so in preparation for moab, and with 6300 miles on my y2k, and with the knowledge that one of my valves was right at the spec limit when i checked 2 months ago, i set about tearing my bike apart. much easier the second time, at least as far as the valve checking goes. it only took me a minute or so to get the valve cover out this time. it seems to help if i pull the rubber gasket out of 1 side to clear the cam chain guide and stuff a little easier. 2 more valves had closed up 1 feeler size (.001), i think they were at 004, 005, (in) and 006, 007 (out). i figured i'd drop 2 sizes on all but the 005 and 007, to put them at the far end of spec, so i wouldn't have to muck with them again for a long time. called the local kawi dealer, who usually has good prices, and he wanted $9 each. WTF? i knew fred had em for way less, and i know fred is a fairly small operation that gets fairly standard retail margins, so i figured there had to be a better source. called the local independent parts shop, they want $5, or $2.50 with trade-in. much better. went in and got them (got a tire too, and some spare tubes) and discovered they were yamaha shims. so that's the ticket. anyway, they look the same, so no problem. got home, put them in, checked clearances. i had expected clearances of 008, 007, 010 and 009, but instead i got 007, 007, 009 and 009. so i was curious, do most people find that the new clearance is not quite what they calculated? mine are pretty dang close, and they're exactly where i would want them if i could choose, but i was wondering if anyone else had noticed such a thing. maybe the new shims seat in microscopically after a bit. maybe i had too much oil on them when i put them in. maybe yamaha shims are ever so slightly different. maybe shim manufacturing tolerances account for it. maybe i was measuring in inches and the shims are measured in mm. i dunno. just curious anyway. -mark weaver

[Steve Anderson]

My local Kaw dealer parts dept. wanted $12/shim. I talked with the guy who ran service, who BTW owns a KLR, afterwards. He told me to come to the "back" door (service dept), and swapped them even - no charge. You might try to talk with the service guys.

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Weaver, Mark" wrote: > so in preparation for moab, and with 6300 miles on my y2k, and with the > knowledge that one of my valves was right at the spec limit when i checked 2 > months ago, i set about tearing my bike apart. much easier the second time, > at least as far as the valve checking goes. it only took me a minute or so > to get the valve cover out this time. it seems to help if i pull the rubber > gasket out of 1 side to clear the cam chain guide and stuff a little easier. > > 2 more valves had closed up 1 feeler size (.001), i think they were at 004, > 005, (in) and 006, 007 (out). i figured i'd drop 2 sizes on all but the 005 > and 007, to put them at the far end of spec, so i wouldn't have to muck with > them again for a long time. called the local kawi dealer, who usually has > good prices, and he wanted $9 each. WTF? i knew fred had em for way less, > and i know fred is a fairly small operation that gets fairly standard retail > margins, so i figured there had to be a better source. called the local > independent parts shop, they want $5, or $2.50 with trade-in. much better. > went in and got them (got a tire too, and some spare tubes) and discovered > they were yamaha shims. so that's the ticket. anyway, they look the same, so > no problem. got home, put them in, checked clearances. i had expected > clearances of 008, 007, 010 and 009, but instead i got 007, 007, 009 and > 009. > > so i was curious, do most people find that the new clearance is not quite > what they calculated? mine are pretty dang close, and they're exactly where > i would want them if i could choose, but i was wondering if anyone else had > noticed such a thing. maybe the new shims seat in microscopically after a > bit. maybe i had too much oil on them when i put them in. maybe yamaha shims > are ever so slightly different. maybe shim manufacturing tolerances account > for it. maybe i was measuring in inches and the shims are measured in mm. i > dunno. just curious anyway. > > -mark weaver

[Mick LeTourneaux]

Seems I remember reading a post where someone had purchased some sort of valve shim package. Is there such a thing available? I'm getting ready to do a long overdue valve check myself and would like to save myself the time of waiting for the nearest dealership to order the shims. -- ________________________ Mick LeTourneaux letourn@...

[Scherer, Michael]

A lot of us have had luck trading shims at the local dealer. I think Kurt has a shim bank available to those who can't trade with the dealer. I could be wrong but at about $15 USD each, a package that would give a variety of shim sizes would be a bit expensive. IMHO Biker Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mick LeTourneaux [mailto:letourn@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:00 PM To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Valve Shims Seems I remember reading a post where someone had purchased some sort of valve shim package. Is there such a thing available? I'm getting ready to do a long overdue valve check myself and would like to save myself the time of waiting for the nearest dealership to order the shims. -- ________________________ Mick LeTourneaux letourn@... Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[BCSavWill@cs.com]

Hi, I think Fred does a shim package, need one myself too. At Arrowhead. Regards, Brian Williams A14 D17

[Mark]

At 3:56 PM -0400 9/20/2000, BCSavWill@... wrote:

>Hi, > >I think Fred does a shim package, need one myself too. > >At Arrowhead.

Most good dealers will swap shims for free, but I bought about a dozen from Fred for the convenience of having zero down time. The problem is, after doing valve adjustments on my two bikes and for a couple of friends, I'm left with a big pile of 260's and 270's! I now have to go swap some with a local dealer to restore my size assortment. Mark B2 A2

[Kurt Simpson]

A lot of us have had luck trading shims at the local dealer. I think Kurt has a shim bank available to those who can't trade with the dealer. I could be wrong but at about $15 USD each, a package that would give a variety of shim sizes would be a bit expensive. IMHO Biker Mike _________________ I did it for quite awhile and then did an organ donation to Dr. Dahlheimer. Fred sells them as "loss leaders" at $3 a pop to get you on the phone and talk you out of a few markies... Kurt

[Peter Dahlheimer, MD]

yep, kurt generously (how else, knowing kurt?) donated to me the remnants of the "shim bank". he ran into lots of problems managing it previously, but if there seems to be a big demand (i.e. lots of people who's local dealers won't exchange shims, like mine), i might be willing to give it a shot. _pete -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson [mailto:dsneditor@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:24 PM To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Valve Shims A lot of us have had luck trading shims at the local dealer. I think Kurt has a shim bank available to those who can't trade with the dealer. I could be wrong but at about $15 USD each, a package that would give a variety of shim sizes would be a bit expensive. IMHO Biker Mike _________________ I did it for quite awhile and then did an organ donation to Dr. Dahlheimer. Fred sells them as "loss leaders" at $3 a pop to get you on the phone and talk you out of a few markies... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com