2-up touring on a klr?

[JWF]

I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the wind! -JWF

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

The best option is the combination of grip heaters and cordura "briar mitts" attached to the handlebars, supported by handguards. This will keep your hands dry and warm enough to wear thin, summer gloves, which will provide the best grip and lever feel. Mark At 7:13 AM +0000 10/1/11, JWF wrote: I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the wind! -JWF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

How warm do you want to be, and for how long? There are a lot of ways to go. Some that I have tried: 1. MSR Cold Pro. Pretty good, but the wrists are often made too tight, hard to get your hands into. These are better off=road, where you are working some, but can be hard to get into with sweaty hands. 2. Snowmobile gloves/mittens. You would expect these to be warm, and they are. Mittens are quite a bit warmer than gloves, but you lose some dexterity. Snowmobile gear seems to be quite a bit cheaper than moto gear. You can spend more, but twenty bucks will get you a lot of warmth. 3. Ice fishing mitts. These are thin waterproof mittens with a pebbled surface for grip and a synthetic fleece liner. Cost-$9 These work better than anything else for an hour or two, at which point accumulated condensation soaks the liners and they become uncomfortable. These give better feel of the controls than just about anything else, and are easy on and off with large wrist openings. 4. Aerostich lobster claws, over your glove of choice. These are meant as rain covers, but they break the wind and trap warm air. I use them with elk skin gloves, sometimes with a silk or polypro liner if I'm going to be on the bike long enough to justify three layers.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "JWF" wrote: > > I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the wind! -JWF >

[mark ward]

GERBING!!!! Electric Gloves with thermostat. (get the DUAL thermostat, you will, like them and get the coat too.) I have the Gloves and coat liner, The liner is 2-3 layers like a wind breaker, I wore it alot in the mornings or in the moutains, and needed to power it twice, in the am, on the 6800 mile Mi. to Seattle trip. And I was wearing a MESH hot weather coat. the trip held 38f - 91f dig. temps. While you can pack several layers, and Change alot every day, OR one liner, (and t,stat) The Gloves are warm as they are But lpug them in and you will Soon be turning down the Tstat. Being in Mi., I ride unless there's ICE on the rd., BUT, Have used the gear mostly in Mid temp. weather, Cold in the morning or evening and ok mid day, Like Florida, vegas etc, 75-80 dig days But when the sun goes down, BRRRRRRRRR 34dig. an hour later. Or when riding mountains, Warm to HOT on the sunny south side the COLD on the north or higher up. Hit the switch and you are warm again.

--- On Sat, 10/1/11, Jud wrote: From: Jud Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Warmest gloves? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 1:37 PM How warm do you want to be, and for how long? There are a lot of ways to go. Some that I have tried: 1. MSR Cold Pro. Pretty good, but the wrists are often made too tight, hard to get your hands into. These are better off=road, where you are working some, but can be hard to get into with sweaty hands. 2. Snowmobile gloves/mittens. You would expect these to be warm, and they are. Mittens are quite a bit warmer than gloves, but you lose some dexterity. Snowmobile gear seems to be quite a bit cheaper than moto gear. You can spend more, but twenty bucks will get you a lot of warmth. 3. Ice fishing mitts. These are thin waterproof mittens with a pebbled surface for grip and a synthetic fleece liner. Cost-$9 These work better than anything else for an hour or two, at which point accumulated condensation soaks the liners and they become uncomfortable. These give better feel of the controls than just about anything else, and are easy on and off with large wrist openings. 4. Aerostich lobster claws, over your glove of choice. These are meant as rain covers, but they break the wind and trap warm air. I use them with elk skin gloves, sometimes with a silk or polypro liner if I'm going to be on the bike long enough to justify three layers. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "JWF" wrote: > > I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the wind! -JWF > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

PS. I have Tourmaster Olar tex And lookwell winter gloves (XL) worn 2-3 times, I can make a deal on since I have the elect. gloves and LOVE THEM.

--- On Sat, 10/1/11, Jud wrote: From: Jud Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: Warmest gloves? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 1:37 PM How warm do you want to be, and for how long? There are a lot of ways to go. Some that I have tried: 1. MSR Cold Pro. Pretty good, but the wrists are often made too tight, hard to get your hands into. These are better off=road, where you are working some, but can be hard to get into with sweaty hands. 2. Snowmobile gloves/mittens. You would expect these to be warm, and they are. Mittens are quite a bit warmer than gloves, but you lose some dexterity. Snowmobile gear seems to be quite a bit cheaper than moto gear. You can spend more, but twenty bucks will get you a lot of warmth. 3. Ice fishing mitts. These are thin waterproof mittens with a pebbled surface for grip and a synthetic fleece liner. Cost-$9 These work better than anything else for an hour or two, at which point accumulated condensation soaks the liners and they become uncomfortable. These give better feel of the controls than just about anything else, and are easy on and off with large wrist openings. 4. Aerostich lobster claws, over your glove of choice. These are meant as rain covers, but they break the wind and trap warm air. I use them with elk skin gloves, sometimes with a silk or polypro liner if I'm going to be on the bike long enough to justify three layers. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "JWF" wrote: > > I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the wind! -JWF > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Critchley]

Can't help you with a brand name for the gloves, but as a gentle hint, any cheap plastic hand covering over warm gloves keeps them dry. DC

> I want a new pair of winter > gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would be good too, > but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but > they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in > the wind! -JWF > > > > ------------------------------------

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Needs Information]

I just found a pair of HEAD gloves at Costco for $15.99. They are gauntlet style which I was looking for, but have a feature I'd not seen before and thought it would be worth the $16 "risk". They have a zippered compartment on the BACK of the hand which is there to hold the little hand warmers that Costco often has for sale in the cold season. These chemical salt packages release heat over hours once the package is open, and having used them, thought this would be perfect for motorcycling. As you noted, the grip warmers keep the palms warm, but these gloves with handwarmers will keep the back (windward) side of the hand warm too. The palms and finger tips have rubberized grip enhancers, but the gloves themselves are not armored for slides or crashes as motorcycle gloves tend to be. If you have a Costco nearby and know a member, you might want to check these out before they're all gone. This is one of those products that Costco has until sold out and you probably won't find them again. 'Tis the season... Steve J

[Eric J Foster]

I too am interested in this one. My record is 15f on the 20 mile commute and I have YET to find a good glove. Grip warmers are better suited for comfort at 65f than they are for actual cold weather performance. E

[JWF]

Does anyone want my shopping summary of about 15 gloves and mitts, with some pix, websites, etc? -JWF

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Eric J Foster wrote: > > I too am interested in this one. My record is 15f on the 20 mile commute > and I have YET to find a good glove. Grip warmers are better suited for > comfort at 65f than they are for actual cold weather performance. > > E >

[JWF]

Below is the URL for an interesting but pricey variation on the briar mitts ($90-$115). There are pix of them installed on a '95 KLR. I'm having trouble with the idea of being tethered to the grips though. What if I want to wave at the Hardley Everrunns, or scratch my -- shoulder? I wouldn't want to re-insert my hand while under way, but after "waving" at the Hardley Everruns I might not want to stop lol. "Kelvin" gloves have a wax layer that allegedly absorbs your body heat to keep you cool, then releases it when your hands cool down. Buck and a half, and I have no idea if it's a jackoff item or legit. I'm also getting more ATGATT as I realize how slowly I'll heal after the next unscheduled dismount, at age 58), so armor is a must. The only bone I ever broke on (off) a motorcycle was in my wrist, from instinctively putting my hand out, signaling the fast-approaching pavement to STOP (didn't work); a good heel pad might have helped. So I'm at least SOTGATT (Some of the Gear...). Too, I like having independent fingers, despite mittens being warmer. Got the grip heaters, not ready to wire up for more electricity. I could probably handle the two-finger overgloves, will probably invest in some fairly high end winter gloves and a pair of lobster claws. One thing I hadn't thought of til now: With gauntlets outside of sleeves, the rain can run right down inside, and get trapped inside your waterproof gloves. I had an unexamined image of the wind blowing the rain backward, which doesn't work at stop signs.... -JWF

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > > The best option is the combination of grip heaters and cordura "briar > mitts" attached to the handlebars, supported by handguards. > This will keep your hands dry and warm enough to wear thin, summer > gloves, which will provide the best grip and lever feel. > > Mark > > > At 7:13 AM +0000 10/1/11, JWF wrote: > I want a new pair of winter gloves. What are the warmest? Dry would > be good too, but warm is more important. Grip warmers are great, but > they keep your palms warm and it's the other side that's out in the > wind! -JWF > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >