shock cost...shocking!

[stuart sullivan]

If people think the DL 1000 was to big for dirt roads wait till he climbs on that Super Tenere with "Super" being the operative word ,put the hard bags on and all the other gear you take on long rides it will be like riding a "TANK" offroad without the tracks. It depends on your skill level to i suppose,for myself i just don't get it when it comes to Tall, Big and heavy supposedly duel purpose bikes but that's just me,I've been riding best part of 50 years and i think i have a acquired a certain amount of skill and even after all that time riding i still find it hard enough manhandling the KLR off road which in comparison to the bikes mentioned is fairly lite, I just realized how old i am so that might have something to do with my thoughts on this,"Go figure". Stu. PS. The DL 650 is an excellent bike almost bought one last year and Suzuki have sold thousands. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: spike55_bmw@... Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR Interstate cruiser Craig: My one buddy has a 4 yr old DL650 (2005 bought new left over in 06) and he has 90,000+ miles on it (live in Pennsylvania so we can't ride everyday of the year). He's trading it in on the Yamaha Super Tenere he ordered that comes in this May / June. My point is that he was able to run the DL650 all over the place, Iron Butt, Colorado, etc and he's about 6'1" 190#. A DL650 seems pretty good. Other riders that had the DL1000 said that it was a little too big for gravel road riding. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > I am considering getting another bike for strictly highway use, All day interstate cruising. > But, I don't want a big expensive Goldwing kind of bike. > I would like to stay on the small side, but still be comfortable. > I'm thinking under 750cc, under 500lb, less than 10 years old. > How is a Vulcan 500 or 600 shadow on the highway? Any other suggestions? > > Craig > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ron criswell]

I couldn't agree more. Big ass bikes that look like dirt bikes are for posers or exceptional riders who either never fall down, never get stuck in mud or sand and or are built like go-rillas to pick them up when they do drop them. Jest an opinion. Criswell Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, stuart sullivan wrote: > > If people think the DL 1000 was to big for dirt roads wait till he climbs on that Super Tenere with "Super" being the operative word ,put the hard bags on and all the other gear you take on long rides it will be like riding a "TANK" offroad without the tracks. > > It depends on your skill level to i suppose,for myself i just don't get it when it comes to Tall, Big and heavy supposedly duel purpose bikes but that's just me,I've been riding best part of 50 years and i think i have a acquired a certain amount of skill and even after all that time riding i still find it hard enough manhandling the KLR off road which in comparison to the bikes mentioned is fairly lite, > I just realized how old i am so that might have something to do with my thoughts on this,"Go figure". > > Stu. > > PS. The DL 650 is an excellent bike almost bought one last year and Suzuki have sold thousands. > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR Interstate cruiser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig: > > My one buddy has a 4 yr old DL650 (2005 bought new left over in 06) and he has 90,000+ miles on it (live in Pennsylvania so we can't ride everyday of the year). He's trading it in on the Yamaha Super Tenere he ordered that comes in this May / June. > > > > My point is that he was able to run the DL650 all over the place, Iron Butt, Colorado, etc and he's about 6'1" 190#. A DL650 seems pretty good. Other riders that had the DL1000 said that it was a little too big for gravel road riding. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > >> > >> I am considering getting another bike for strictly highway use, All day interstate cruising. > >> But, I don't want a big expensive Goldwing kind of bike. > >> I would like to stay on the small side, but still be comfortable. > >> I'm thinking under 750cc, under 500lb, less than 10 years old. > >> How is a Vulcan 500 or 600 shadow on the highway? Any other suggestions? > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > >

[spike55_bmw]

He's keeping his '05 KLR650 and he has two real dirt-bikes also. But I agree. Even the mighty KLR650 is too heavy for an old man like me to handle. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > If people think the DL 1000 was to big for dirt roads wait till he climbs on that Super Tenere with "Super" being the operative word ,put the hard bags on and all the other gear you take on long rides it will be like riding a "TANK" offroad without the tracks. > > It depends on your skill level to i suppose,for myself i just don't get it when it comes to Tall, Big and heavy supposedly duel purpose bikes but that's just me,I've been riding best part of 50 years and i think i have a acquired a certain amount of skill and even after all that time riding i still find it hard enough manhandling the KLR off road which in comparison to the bikes mentioned is fairly lite, > I just realized how old i am so that might have something to do with my thoughts on this,"Go figure". > > Stu. > > PS. The DL 650 is an excellent bike almost bought one last year and Suzuki have sold thousands. > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR Interstate cruiser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig: > > My one buddy has a 4 yr old DL650 (2005 bought new left over in 06) and he has 90,000+ miles on it (live in Pennsylvania so we can't ride everyday of the year). He's trading it in on the Yamaha Super Tenere he ordered that comes in this May / June. > > > > My point is that he was able to run the DL650 all over the place, Iron Butt, Colorado, etc and he's about 6'1" 190#. A DL650 seems pretty good. Other riders that had the DL1000 said that it was a little too big for gravel road riding. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > > > > > I am considering getting another bike for strictly highway use, All day interstate cruising. > > > But, I don't want a big expensive Goldwing kind of bike. > > > I would like to stay on the small side, but still be comfortable. > > > I'm thinking under 750cc, under 500lb, less than 10 years old. > > > How is a Vulcan 500 or 600 shadow on the highway? Any other suggestions? > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[cycletip]

There's many types of off road riding that a big adventure bike is capable of doing just fine. Fire roads are lots of fun and plentiful. Just got to keep perspective before you get into too much trouble. There's also some pretty creative ways to pick the beast up. How would I know???? BTW - our 03 KLR is the smallest dirt bike in the garage

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell wrote: > > I couldn't agree more. Big ass bikes that look like dirt bikes are for posers or exceptional riders who either never fall down, never get stuck in mud or sand and or are built like go-rillas to pick them up when they do drop them. Jest an opinion. > > Criswell

[stuart sullivan]

You are correct about big bikes being able to do fire roads and such and even some more difficult terrain and I've seen the videos of the various ways of picking up a bike and have had to use those ways myself a couple of times,but some of the riding I've done on my KLR would not be possible on a big Beemer or others in this category at least not for me even after near 50 years of riding. Stronger,younger, highly skilled riders maybe or you,hell i live on the main route up here in Northern British Columbia to the Alaska HWY and see lots of those big duel due-lies every year but i wouldn't want to take one on some of the single track and other stuff me and my riding friends do some of which i might add i still get into trouble doing,like i said in my previous post skill level probably makes the difference so go for it,and besides anything else their bloody expensive bikes to at least for my wallet. Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: cycletip@... Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:13:37 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR To Big! There's many types of off road riding that a big adventure bike is capable of doing just fine. Fire roads are lots of fun and plentiful. Just got to keep perspective before you get into too much trouble. There's also some pretty creative ways to pick the beast up. How would I know???? BTW - our 03 KLR is the smallest dirt bike in the garage

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell wrote: > > I couldn't agree more. Big ass bikes that look like dirt bikes are for posers or exceptional riders who either never fall down, never get stuck in mud or sand and or are built like go-rillas to pick them up when they do drop them. Jest an opinion. > > Criswell [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

Well, I can't afford a second bike and I am VERY happy with my KLR 650 (too heavy, too few gears notwithstanding) but if I was buying a street only bike, I'd buy a Z1000 or a Speed Triple. OK, I'm biased. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 2/6/2011 4:12 PM, stuart sullivan wrote: > If people think the DL 1000 was to big for dirt roads wait till he climbs on that Super Tenere with "Super" being the operative word ,put the hard bags on and all the other gear you take on long rides it will be like riding a "TANK" offroad without the tracks. > > It depends on your skill level to i suppose,for myself i just don't get it when it comes to Tall, Big and heavy supposedly duel purpose bikes but that's just me,I've been riding best part of 50 years and i think i have a acquired a certain amount of skill and even after all that time riding i still find it hard enough manhandling the KLR off road which in comparison to the bikes mentioned is fairly lite, > I just realized how old i am so that might have something to do with my thoughts on this,"Go figure". > > Stu. > > PS. The DL 650 is an excellent bike almost bought one last year and Suzuki have sold thousands. > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR Interstate cruiser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig: > > My one buddy has a 4 yr old DL650 (2005 bought new left over in 06) and he has 90,000+ miles on it (live in Pennsylvania so we can't ride everyday of the year). He's trading it in on the Yamaha Super Tenere he ordered that comes in this May / June. > > > > My point is that he was able to run the DL650 all over the place, Iron Butt, Colorado, etc and he's about 6'1" 190#. A DL650 seems pretty good. Other riders that had the DL1000 said that it was a little too big for gravel road riding. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > >> I am considering getting another bike for strictly highway use, All day interstate cruising. >> But, I don't want a big expensive Goldwing kind of bike. >> I would like to stay on the small side, but still be comfortable. >> I'm thinking under 750cc, under 500lb, less than 10 years old. >> How is a Vulcan 500 or 600 shadow on the highway? Any other suggestions? >> >> Craig >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Fred Hink]

First off you are comparing apples to oranges. And the real answer is supply and demand. There has been a glut of imported aftermarket parts for older bikes. These 70s twin shocks are much different than the state of the art single shocks on newer bikes. Until the low end manufacturers flood the single shock market, I don t see prices going down anytime soon. Progressive Suspension has come out with a new model single shock for the KLR that is better and the price is $50 less than the shock it replaced. Prices may be coming down slightly but they have a long way to go to be in the $79 range. There is a reason most all motorcycle manufacturers have gone to the single rear shock. It is just better. You get what you pay for and if you d like to go back to the twin shock setup, you d spend a whole lot more converting your bike than the difference in the price of these shocks. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: veloboarder Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:48 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Shock cost...shocking! Just perused Mike's site and found pairs of replacement shocks for $79.00! Why do we get charged $400.00 + for a single KLR shock???? note: this is not a cheap shot at Fred...this is just the going rate from all vendors. Martin -20c in Calgary tonight!

--- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote: > > > > Here's a pretty good deal on a riveting tool. > > http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.php?category_id=7.1 > > Not as good a deal as it used to be; for a few years, mike's sold these for the incredible price of ten bucks. But this is an awesome heavy-duty chain breaker that sets rivets too. > > > > > > > > ~~~~Mike's is a great site, he has so many good tools at unbelievablly low prices, and tools that are hard to find. The chain tool you mention he carries looks good and is cheap. I spent stupid money and bought this one- > > > http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/102321/monthly-special-rk-pro-chain-breaker-and-rivet-tool-kit.html > > > I'm sure this took will outlast me, unless I start to work at a dealership and do chains day in and day out, even then, the RK tool will last a lifetime me thinks > > > @the OP...forget about clip type master links. yes, many here use them but they are not reliable like a rivet type. Buy the rivet link, get the tool designed to flare the master link rivet pins and you'll have one more trick up your sleeve > > > I'm also going to go out on the limb and recommend using DID chains. Buy the best you can afford. Also, email the DID tech rep for flare pin width...that's the amount of pin that squashes when riveted. DID has specs for the width of the flare (+&-)...yeah, no kidding. I'm anal and measured using my metric dial caliper. DID does not print this info on the chain box, you have to email or phone for this information but for sure, many will bang the rivet on best they can and it will out last the chain...but if you want to make sure the rivet is in place correctly, there are specs for the width of the flare pin when you mushroom (flare) it > > > > Jake > Reddick Fla. > "Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don't Matter and Those Who Matter Don't Mind." Dr. Suess > > > http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/ > > > > > > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > > > > Fred, > > > > > > I didn't see a riveting tool on your site. Do you sell them? I think I'd > > > prefer to just purchase the tool. I have more money than time right now, or > > > at least more credit so I don't think removing the swing arm is what I > > > want to do. Everything was removed and well greased just two years ago and > > > the bike has seen very little dirt and zero water crossings so I think my > > > grease is probably still good for a while. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > ian > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Fred Hink wrote: > > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > > > A chain press will install the pressed on side plate but will not rivet the > > > > link. You will need a chain riveting tool and those are very expensive. I > > > > can rivet the chain together for you but then the only way you would be able > > > > to install it is to remove the swingarm first. Let me know if that is what > > > > you would like me to do when you place your order. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Fred > > > > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Ian > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:49 PM > > > > *To:* mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com > > > > *Subject:* [DSN_KLR650] Time for a new chain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About 16k miles ago I bought sprockets and a Tsubaki chain from bikebandit. > > > > Can't remember if the sprockets were aftermarket or OEM but 16k miles seems > > > > reasonable for a set. > > > > > > > > The chain still passes the #2 Phillips screwdriver test as posted by the > > > > Rev or someone, but it has tight spots and I have to run it too loose to > > > > accommodate the tight spots. > > > > > > > > I used a clip master link and was surprised to find recently that I had > > > > lost the clip. 99.99% of my riding was on pavement. I glued another one on > > > > with some grippy rubber type cement like i6000. It's still there but I truly > > > > understand now that one little rock bouncing up can knock the clip right off > > > > so I will rivet this next chain on. > > > > > > > > Anyway I think I'm going to purchase from Arrowhead Motorsports this time > > > > just to spread the wealth around a bit. > > > > > > > > The question is, is the Motion Pro press listed on Fred's site all I need > > > > to install a rivet link, or is there another tool required? I have some old > > > > chainbreaker looking tools but am not sure exactly what I have. > > > > > > > > Thanks, ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ian > > > http://www.scarletfuries.com > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]