klr vereses the yamaha tenere -- small bikes

[revmaaatin]

http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm Here is something of interest if it is the real deal. Note the comment cost/liter for conversion below the video. At the very least, the converted product can be used to run a fuel/oil furnace. Any one here see this technology at a trade show? Mike Frey--you are a plastics guy; any further info or realistic developments. revmaaatin.

[Mike Frey]

Interesting, but I don't know much about that technology, so I can't comment on its viability, and I have not read about it or seen it at trade shows. If it is as good as portrayed, I would think that I would have heard about it by now. I did forward the video to a trusted polymer chemist for his opinion. The video reminded me of the "Mr Fusion" mounted on the DeLorean in the movie[i] Back to the Future[/i]! It would appear to me that the cost / energy use to to do this would be greater than the benefit. The oil that comes out of his machine looks suspiciously "clean". Creation of plastics from their building block components is a very tightly controlled process, and I think that reversing it would be equally true. Plastics  of all types are highly recyclable and we should be doing a better job in that direction. Mike revmaaatin wrote:

  http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm Here is something of interest if it is the real deal. Note the comment cost/liter for conversion below the video. At the very least, the converted product can be used to run a fuel/oil furnace. Any one here see this technology at a trade show? Mike Frey--you are a plastics guy; any further info or realistic developments. revmaaatin.

[Randall Marbach]

Rev I could not agree more. Minimalist bikes I like. Unless you like riding the Interstates being blown around by trucks and looking at the back of them, you don't really have to ride at 80 mph. 60 is kind of nice on scenic backroads with no trucks. I got my latest Motorcylist mag today with the Multistrada / BMW R1 GS match with photos getting air over moderate gravel roads. The Multistrada was rated at 129 ponies.Should I repeat? Should I belch or Throw up? Big is not always better. Er .....one of the things I have liked about Harlies is they are simple....really. Ducatis aren't nor are the latest Beemers. God long for the day of say a simple, durable bike like say a CB 350 that is cheap, light and would go almost anywhere. Sorta like Southwest airlines, no-frills and none to impress at the local biker bar hangout. CriswellSent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:45 PM, "revmaaatin" wrote:

  --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: SNIP > I'm thinking of dropping down to a Kawi Super Sherpa or one of the other smaller cc bikes,my only concern is highway speed with a load on and flogging a small motor for miles at a time, SNIP Stu. Stu- I don't think/remember you were on the list summer 2009 when I rode a KLR 250 1750ish miles from Northeast PA to central South Dakota in 5 days. (1997 KLR 250 with 975 miles.) You have the right concerns. smile. Here are my thoughts.... I was at first a little perplexed at the distance and size of the bike. then thought, most of the moto's in the world are 250 or less and go thousands of miles. Why should it be any different here? It really is the journey not the destination. In conversation with Judd Jones, he refereed to it as 'minimalist motorcycling'. I had a minimal motorcycle buy I had enough gear to tent and repair; didn't tent, but I did have a pin hole leak in a fuel tank. I think the true secret to riding a small bike long distance to to pick roads that are suitable for the bike. I-80?, ah no. Yes it will take longer, but damage to the bike at high rpms takes even longer. During my trip: I was on a short stretch in OHIO/US30 road where the speed limit was 65, the rest was all posted at 55mph. I rode that at 60mph and the rest of the time I rode at 55mph. As a side note, I looked at tach red-line, used 75-80% of red line as my sustainable rpm. = 60ish mph/gps. OTOH- There were sections of PA where I was lucky to go 30 mph going up hill. shrug. We got there. all that = don't flog the bike, pick another road. The DeLorme topo maps will give you lots of alternatives. Sometimes there are alternatives, sometimes there is not. After posting my short RR, many answered privately they had gone several 100 miles on a Honda XR125/250 as a riding companion with their dads. smile. I had bought this KLR250 (2009) so my 13 y/o son could make a trip with me this last summer (=2010; we rode 2527 miles in 12 days)when he was 14; note--South Dakota licenses at age 14 (and was MSF qualified). Pre trip planning/conditioning-training: We logged ~1500 miles of KLR250 riding, then over the winter, the 'lil fella grew 6 inches after I bought the 250. Now--suddenly, 6weeks before we depart, he flat foots a 650 just fine. So, we logged some 500 miles of 650 time for him and left on 650's instead of a 650 and a 250 combination. Considering his age and experience, we averaged 200 miles a day, never more than 300 in one day as I recall. Which brings up the point: if you group ride, most of the bikes/riders should be of the same capability, or it will cause some cross feelings. Even when the bikes are equally capable, some will want to ride FAST and some will be plodding along. shrug. During 2008, 4 of us started together on the GDR and by 10am on the 3rd day, we had a 'divorce' as two wanted to burn it up WOT, and I wanted to go a little slower. We split into two teams of two; All had a reasonably good time, except for the Chuck's broken foot, John's fractured ankle, my sprained ankle, and John's blown clutch. Chuck later sustained a blood clot in his lung from the broken foot. Perhaps a little to much excitement. As I have gotten older and stiffer, I find the 250 to be just as much fun as the 650, and if I fall down riding the 250 (which I have not), there is 100# less to pick up than with the 650 when I fall down (which I do). While you are considering bikes, and it may not be a big deal now, but an electric start is 'nice' to have. In the ride reports before there was a Kawi KLX250, the primary complaint against the KLR250, it was the only bike in the comparison that was kick-start. Admitedly, it is also taller and heavier than some of the others. shrug. I like the Kawi product/price. Some of the 4 year old KLX250's are dirt cheap. revmaaatin.

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