cycle news (the end)

[hijklr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. Criswell

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded

[Eddie]

Shafties can wheelie, too. =)   When Honda debuted the GL1800, they had one of the Hayden brothers (Nicky?) do seriously crazy wheelies at the Asheville NC Honda Hoot. IIRC, he had "ballast" in the bags (concrete blocks?) but that was just for weight transfer.   eddie    

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] roncriswell@... [b]To: [/b]kevinup@... [b]Cc: [/b]DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] 9/3/2010 11:17:52 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] you gotta see this klr wheelie video Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. Criswell On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded

[Jud]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote:

> > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) >

You might think they can. A lot of people do. but it has been scientifically proven that shafties not only can't wheelie, they can't countersteer. It's due to the coriolis effect.

> Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[Mike Hilton]

One thing for sure, if they keep riding like that they would pollute the gene pool much loonger. Mike H  

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] judjonzz@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, September 03, 2010 4:36 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: you gotta see this klr wheelie video   --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote: > > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) > You might think they can. A lot of people do. but it has been scientifically proven that shafties not only can't wheelie, they can't countersteer. It's due to the coriolis effect. > Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[Mike Frey]

I thought it was the areola effect? ...or maybe that's what MAKES things wheelie. Jud wrote:

  --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "eddie" transalp1@... wrote: > > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) > You might think they can. A lot of people do. but it has been scientifically proven that shafties not only can't wheelie, they can't countersteer. It's due to the coriolis effect. > Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

I have found the te-ne-que for wheelli-ing my driveshaft Concours. I put a 30 inch wheel on the front and a 12 inch wheel on the back Plus I put my brother-in-law named Delbert who like beer and Do-nuts on the back. I have to air the rear tire up to 80 PSI for Delbert . It looks weird but works like a charm. I don't do it much cause Delbert stinks. He would crush the subframe on the KLR. Criswell

On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Mike Frey wrote:   I thought it was the areola effect? ...or maybe that's what MAKES things wheelie. Jud wrote:   --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "eddie" transalp1@... wrote: > > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) > You might think they can. A lot of people do. but it has been scientifically proven that shafties not only can't wheelie, they can't countersteer. It's due to the coriolis effect. > Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[RobertWichert]

It actually looks like they are pretty damned good at it.  I saw one or two "back-outs" done quite well.  They undoubtedly dropped a few learning, but they seem to be pros at it now.  At least as good as Jason Britton. I think that the KLR is a good wheelie bike due to the light front end, right? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 9/3/2010 2:49 PM, Mike Hilton wrote:   One thing for sure, if they keep riding like that they would pollute the gene pool much loonger. Mike H   ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] judjonzz@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, September 03, 2010 4:36 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: you gotta see this klr wheelie video   --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" transalp1@... wrote: > > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) > You might think they can. A lot of people do. but it has been scientifically proven that shafties not only can't wheelie, they can't countersteer. It's due to the coriolis effect. > Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[fasteddiecopeman]

Oh ya? That was done with MIRRORS...! EVERYONE knows you can't wheelie a driveshaft bike! Ed ; >)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote: > > Shafties can wheelie, too. =) > > When Honda debuted the GL1800, they had one of the Hayden brothers (Nicky?) do seriously crazy wheelies at the Asheville NC Honda Hoot. > IIRC, he had "ballast" in the bags (concrete blocks?) but that was just for weight transfer. > > eddie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: roncriswell@... > To: hijklr > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: 9/3/2010 11:17:52 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] you gotta see this klr wheelie video > > > > > Thank God we don't have a driveshaft or we couldn't do dis. > > > Criswell > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:59 AM, hijklr wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Qg4kIdEAQ&feature=player_embedded >

[Jud]

'Deed it does.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Shepard wrote: > > This sucks > > > > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >From: > >Date: Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 3:21 PM > >Subject: Cycle News (The End) > >To: JudyJWhitson@... > > > > > >I was very sorry to get this news. Not only because I have enjoyed the > >publication since the 60's, but because I just paid my years > >subscription. All print media are fighting for their lives. I still > >prefer to hold a paper or magazine in my hands, but it looks like I am > >in the minority. > > > >http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2010/09/the-great-recessions-latest-victim-cycle-news/ > > > > > > > >Cycle Newshas shut down as of August 31, 2010 was saddening, but not surprising. > > > >The Cycle News story began in 1965 when Chuck and Sharon Clayton > >purchased an existing L.A.-area motorcycle publication and renamed it. > >It quickly got a reputation for providing the best and most timely > >coverage of Southern California "and later national "motorcycle racing. > >Sharon (herself an enthusiastic rider) would cover events herself, but > >the Claytons soon began relying heavily on a network of freelancers, > >training an army of moto-journalists who would go on to careers at > >other publications. By the early 1980 s, Cycle News had three regional > >editions and was known as the authority in all things motorcycling. > >Chuck passed away in 1992, but Sharon maintained ownership and > >control, keeping up the quality and reputation of the publication. > >Regardless of the quality of the newspaper, competition from online > >news and information sources took its toll. Ad sales and circulation > >were down, and CN s raison d etre "providing timely race results "was > >made irrelevant when racers and race fans could get that information > >hours or even minutes after the races ended. Just a week before the > >paper shut down, long-time Editor-in-Chief Paul Carruthers (son of > >racing/tuning legend Kal Curruthers) was unceremoniously laid off; > > Just do me one favor, writes Paul on his blog the day after he was > >laid off, when you see me at the grocery store unshaven in a white > >T-shirt, plaid shorts and flip-flops, don t tell me When one door > >closes, another one opens. Yesterday the door hit me so hard in the > >ass, I m writing this while standing up. > >CN sdemise is tragic, but we saw it coming. Though the company > >expanded its online presence and engaged in all the hot new social > >media, just participating in digital media is no guarantee of success, > >something I ve learned working at many different online and print > >publications. The tremendous overhead a realnews organization has to > >pay can only be supported by big-bucks print ads from national > >companies and organizations. Those banner ads you see? Given the same > > readership, they bring in pennies on the dollar compared to print > >ads, even in 2010. So no matter how much free content a website posts, > >unless you can count on a million or more pair of eyeballs reading > >your site every month, having more than a few employees is a dream, > >and employing copyeditors, fact-checkers and responsible publishers is > >sheer fantasy. And those few employees had better be working 18-hour > >days, churning out enough fresh content to keep the > >ever-more-demanding eyeballs coming back. Will that content be of the > >same quality as that of a more-carefully produced medium? We here at > >MD like to think we do a good job, actually asking questions of the > >sources that churn out the press releases and doing some fact-checking > >and investigation of our own, but the challenges are obvious. > >So a few talented, dedicated people lost their jobs. Why should you > >care? You should care because you care about motorcycling. Cycle > >Newswas real journalism, contrasted to the vast majority of > >motorcycling websites that merely regurgitate either industry press > >releases or rehashed articles from real news sources. When those real > >news outlets that have the infrastructure necessary to produce actual > >journalism, like "disappear, what will be left? Unfiltered press > >releases, which though informative, are hardly unbiased sources of > >good information. Would you read a magazine that was just advertising? > >Without real journalism, the Internet will be nothing but unfiltered, > >disorganized data (which isn t news) and carefully targeted > >advertising. > >We also lose our history. Carruthers writes, for every photo on a > >proof sheet that was chosen for publication and circled with a blue > >grease pencil, there are 35 other photos of equal importance. What > >will happen to those thousands of photos, those millions of words, the > >rough notes of interviews with every famed racer and motorcyclist you > >could name? I fret not for the things that will be saved, but for the > >things that will probably get trashed. I fear someone going through > >the wreckage who knows nothing of Dick Mann, of Giacomo Agostini, or > >of Kenny Roberts or Roger DeCoster. > > It s gone now, but it will never be forgotten, writes Carruthers. > >I m not so sure. The motorcycle industry is a microcosm of the larger > >world, and media in general in this country is in big trouble. Can we > >be an intelligent, thoughtful voting and decision-making public when > >commercial news sources turn into little more than an amplifier for > >the three-billion-dollar P.R. industry? I m hoping for a successful > >revenue model for real journalism to emerge, so the next generation of > >motorcyclists have the same enthusiasm for our sport as we do. >