----- Original Message ----- From: "stuart sullivan" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:56:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K Nice constructive reply Jeff if i may say,so much so that i just ordered a set of K761s which happens to be one of the kenda's I've not tried and will put them on next instead of the TKCs,and maybe I'll join you on the dark side or not,"Jeff i am your Farther". Stu. To: spike55_bmw@... CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: jeff@... Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:41:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K I used to agree with both of you. However, I'm starting to go to the dark side. I ride my KLR a lot. If it's not raining buckets, I ride everywhere I go unless I have to haul something large. I commute, go to the store, carve canyons and run fire trails and desert track all on the same bike. After my stock tires wore out, I did a bunch of research and decided on dropping on a set of Metzeler Enduro 3 Saharas. They were expensive, but based upon what I'd read, they fit my style of riding well. They were good on-road, and good off-road. Had a decent wear life, etc. I found that larely my research was correct. They were great tires but they were near the top end of cost range of KLR tires. They were good tires and they lasted about 1,000 miles more than the stock ones. When it came time to replace again, I started my r esearch all over again. This time, I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire. Over and over people were raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire. I figured "What do I have to lose?, a set is under $100.00!" I ordered a set and spooned 'em on. I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised. They are far better than I expected. For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect. Dry pavement performance is outstanding, I can carve the canyons and literally drag pegs with confidence. I feel no "squirreliness". Wet performance is acceptable. I commute in light-to-moderate rain without fear. Off road they perform as well as any 70/30 tire out there. Were the Metzelers better? A little. Were they 3 times better? Definitely not. Since I ride so many miles, the choice is a no-brainer. The Ken das are suited to my particular needs, and the price is reasonable. They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable. In fact, I hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my rims. The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the bike without crashing. They have my whole-hearted endorsement. The link below is a picture of the wheel damage. The tires are still on the road now, without any indication of a problem. http://bit.ly/bGCBXS -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "spike55_bmw" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K Stu: I agree with you. Some of my friends and other riders I know love to go cheap on the tires. But then they tell me that the tires are a little squirrely in the turns, not so good in the rain, and they are only dirt-worthy for about 2,000 miles. They have to change tires two or three times a season. Then they have to pull the wheels and either change the tires themselves or take it to a dealer and pay $30 / tire for a change and balance. So what have they really saved in $ and you also have all of the down time? I've been running the MEFOs since the OEM wore out (3,000 miles) and they are good in the dirt for my whole season (6,000 - 7,000 miles / yr), they aren't squirrely in the turns, and they are good in the rain but they are getting more expensive. But I really don't have the time to go cheap. It sounds like too much work to me. Don R100, A6F (x2) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. > > I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: chris.eckert@... > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. > > > > For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > > > > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > > > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > > > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > > > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > > > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > > > 5.10x17). > > > > > > Ken > > > Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734386 > Your Photo on Bing.ca: You Could WIN on Canada Day! Submit a Photo Now!
[dsn_klr650] retires again!kenda's s$*k
-
- Posts: 684
- Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:08 am
retires again!kenda's s$*k
#ygrps-yiv-1638860483 p {margin:0;}I'm sure you will find them acceptable.
The two places I've found where they didn't perform well:
Deep Mud... fuhgedabouddit.
There was one desert road that was a butt-puckering experience. It was loose sand with a hard pack base, and a steep lateral incline. You know, the kind that if you were in a 4x4 you'd think you were going to roll? They don't have enough side knobs for that. I had to choose my line carefully, and at some points i would zig-zag trying to make it more of a straight climb, or get out of the road bed all together and run the bottom of the gully, then cut straight up the hill to rejoin the "road".
-Jeff Khoury
-
- Posts: 176
- Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:01 am
retires again!kenda's s$*k
Good morning Jeff, I'm on my second set of 761's and although I thought of a more dirt ready tire I stuck with the 761's. I do probably 60 to 70% off pavement, from gravel to single track and they work very well on road, and acceptablly off road as long as you avoid mud unless necessary. The one place that I have encountered so far that the 761's and I bet any of the street biased tires really suck at is going down steep especially gravel slopes, at 220 lbs I still can't get enough weight on the back tire to get it to provide the control I want without locking up the rear and having to use some front brake. I'm talking about slopes maybe 30* or so which usually have a twist in them or maybe at the bottom so I'm talking 1st gear stuff but the feeling the first few times I did it was a bit puckering. That being said it really isn't what these tires were designed for and I never bother airing down which might help. Anyway just another opinion...Have a great day.....Greg
From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K To: "stuart sullivan" Cc: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Received: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 3:31 AM I'm sure you will find them acceptable. The two places I've found where they didn't perform well: Deep Mud... fuhgedabouddit. There was one desert road that was a butt-puckering experience. It was loose sand with a hard pack base, and a steep lateral incline. You know, the kind that if you were in a 4x4 you'd think you were going to roll? They don't have enough side knobs for that. I had to choose my line carefully, and at some points i would zig-zag trying to make it more of a straight climb, or get out of the road bed all together and run the bottom of the gully, then cut straight up the hill to rejoin the "road". -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "stuart sullivan" To: "dsn klr650" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:56:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda' s S$*K Nice constructive reply Jeff if i may say,so much so that i just ordered a set of K761s which happens to be one of the kenda's I've not tried and will put them on next instead of the TKCs,and maybe I'll join you on the dark side or not,"Jeff i am your Farther". Stu. To: spike55_bmw@ yahoo.com CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com From: jeff@astatic. net Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:41:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda' s S$*K I used to agree with both of you. However, I'm starting to go to the dark side. I ride my KLR a lot. If it's not raining buckets, I ride everywhere I go unless I have to haul something large. I commute, go to the store, carve canyons and run fire trails and desert track all on the same bike. After my stock tires wore out, I did a bunch of research and decided on dropping on a set of Metzeler Enduro 3 Saharas. They were expensive, but based upon what I'd read, they fit my style of riding well. They were good on-road, and good off-road. Had a decent wear life, etc. I found that larely my research was correct. They were great tires but they were near the top end of cost range of KLR tires. They were good tires and they lasted about 1,000 miles more than the stock ones. When it came time to replace again, I started my r esearch all over again. This time, I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire. Over and over people were raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire. I figured "What do I have to lose?, a set is under $100.00!" I ordered a set and spooned 'em on. I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised. They are far better than I expected. For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect. Dry pavement performance is outstanding, I can carve the canyons and literally drag pegs with confidence. I feel no "squirreliness" . Wet performance is acceptable. I commute in light-to-moderate rain without fear. Off road they perform as well as any 70/30 tire out there. Were the Metzelers better? A little. Were they 3 times better? Definitely not. Since I ride so many miles, the choice is a no-brainer. The Ken das are suited to my particular needs, and the price is reasonable. They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable. In fact, I hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my rims. The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the bike without crashing. They have my whole-hearted endorsement. The link below is a picture of the wheel damage. The tires are still on the road now, without any indication of a problem. http://bit.ly/ bGCBXS -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "spike55_bmw" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda' s S$*K Stu: I agree with you. Some of my friends and other riders I know love to go cheap on the tires. But then they tell me that the tires are a little squirrely in the turns, not so good in the rain, and they are only dirt-worthy for about 2,000 miles. They have to change tires two or three times a season. Then they have to pull the wheels and either change the tires themselves or take it to a dealer and pay $30 / tire for a change and balance. So what have they really saved in $ and you also have all of the down time? I've been running the MEFOs since the OEM wore out (3,000 miles) and they are good in the dirt for my whole season (6,000 - 7,000 miles / yr), they aren't squirrely in the turns, and they are good in the rain but they are getting more expensive. But I really don't have the time to go cheap. It sounds like too much work to me. Don R100, A6F (x2) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. > > I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > From: chris.eckert@ ... > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. > > > > For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > > > > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > > > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > > > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > > > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > > > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > > > 5.10x17). > > > > > > Ken > > > Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat > http://go.microsoft .com/?linkid= 9734386 > Your Photo on Bing.ca: You Could WIN on Canada Day! Submit a Photo Now!--- On [b]Wed, 6/16/10, Jeff Khoury [i][/i][/b] wrote:
-
- Posts: 219
- Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:12 am
retires again!kenda's s$*k
Flame bait mode = on
Mefo means "More Euro F______ Options"
They are basicaly Germany's way of trying to make back some of the money BMW lost to people not throwing their money away on new GSs. Think of it as Eurotrash pricing for KLR parts.
Hmmmm, I wonder if that line will offend anybody?

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > What's a MIfO's? >
-
- Posts: 55
- Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:07 pm
retires again!kenda's s$*k
Jeff,
Very happy to read your comments.
Last year I replaced the FRONT tire on my 'new-to-me' 2003 KLR. When I first
got it {with
I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had
planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire. Over and over people were
raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire. I figured "What do I have to lose?,
a set is under $100.00!" I ordered a set and spooned 'em on.
I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised. They are far better than I
expected. For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect.
. . . the price is reasonable. They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR
will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable. In fact, I
hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my
rims. The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the
bike without crashing. They have my whole-hearted endorsement.
_______________________________________
No infections found in this outgoing message
Scanned by iolo System Shield
http://www.iolo.com
-
- Posts: 684
- Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:08 am
retires again!kenda's s$*k
#ygrps-yiv-1182839487 p {margin:0;}I will NOT ride on questionable tires - my brother makes fun of me because I'm so "paranoid" about it. I had a small brad nail in my tire, and since I had "Slime" in my tube it was still holding air, but I did not feel comfortable with riding it with the nail in there. I was even less comfortable with pulling the nail and letting the Slime seal it. To me that is an emergency "Just get me home" type of thing, not a permanent fix.
Last night after work, I installed a new tube. Now I feel better again.
I look at it like this: Those two bits of rubber are the only thing between me and a crash. If you don't believe me, just ask Tom (scroll back to Jun 12 in this list) what a catastrophic deflation will do to both you and your bike. To me, replacing a $10.00 tube and running decent tires is really cheap insurance against a crash.
I've ridden many a rattletrap bike, but two things must be in good working order before I swing my leg over - brakes and tires.
As I was composing this, Commander Cody echoed in my mind:
"It's got safety tubes, but I ain't scared -
Brakes good, tires fair."
-Jeff Khoury
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Magen" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:56:08 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K Jeff, Very happy to read your comments. Last year I replaced the FRONT tire on my 'new-to-me' 2003 KLR. When I first got it {with I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire. Over and over people were raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire. I figured "What do I have to lose?, a set is under $100.00!" I ordered a set and spooned 'em on. I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised. They are far better than I expected. For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect. . . . the price is reasonable. They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable. In fact, I hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my rims. The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the bike without crashing. They have my whole-hearted endorsement. _______________________________________ No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com
-
- Posts: 55
- Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:07 pm
[dsn_klr650] retires again!kenda's s$*k
#ygrps-yiv-1172555005 P { MARGIN:0px;} Jeff, Thanks for the quick response . . .. Reminds me of the 'old adage -paraphrased many times, 'Pilots', 'Sailors', etc. - - " There are OLD sailors and there are BOLD sailors . . . but there are NO 'old' AND 'bold' sailors !! " I think of myself as a 'prudent' sailor .. . . Regards & Thanks, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] jeff@... [b]To:[/b] Quahaug@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:50 [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K I will NOT ride on questionable tires - my brother makes fun of me because I'm so "paranoid" about it. I've ridden many a rattletrap bike, but two things must be in good working order before I swing my leg over - brakes and tires. As I was composing this, Commander Cody echoed in my mind: "It's got safety tubes, but I ain't scared - Brakes good, tires fair."
No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by [b]iolo System Shield [/b] http://www.iolo.com
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests