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[spike55_bmw]

Well, I now have two. I picked up a second green '06 with 500 miles for $2,800 (w/o taxes & tags). Currently, Seafoam is slowly bring the carb back to life. Everyday, it gets better just like the weather. This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. I'm assuming it is the same stuff that grows on the north facing roofs & outside walls around here. Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex-plastic? Don R100, A6F(x2)

[Michael Martin]

Don, I would expect that any mild abrasive polish, such as would be used to return a pink KLR to its original red color, would work for your problem.  I used Meguiar's ScratchX, but it is *extremely* labor intensive.  Maybe someone else has a better product to suggest. Mike Martin, Louisville, KY Pinkish A19 [b]From:[/b] spike55_bmw [b][/b] This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex-plastic?

[skypilot110]

I still look at my copy of "Bikes of Burden" regularly. I lived in Tokyo for two years in the mid 80s but it was very different there. They were too modernized and consumerized for such heroic inventiveness. Africa had a lot off cool stuff on bicycles though.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" wrote: > If you were to travel in the east (Asia that is) you will see many bicycle, moped, step-through wonders even more fascinating than this. There is the chicken man, the snake man, the bread man, and many other wondrous 2 wheeled innovations.

[John Biccum]

The mold etc are living organisms.  Cheap chlorine bleach might kill them so their carcasses would rinse right off.  I'd sure try that before any more labor intensive methods.  If it were my bike I'd put undiluted bleach in a "trigger pump" style sprayer and let the little buggers have it.   Household bleach is about 1/2 of one percent chlorine and 99 1/2 percent water, chlorine is a great mold killer.  

On 4/30/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Martin wrote:   Don, I would expect that any mild abrasive polish, such as would be used to return a pink KLR to its original red color, would work for your problem.  I used Meguiar's ScratchX, but it is *extremely* labor intensive.  Maybe someone else has a better product to suggest. Mike Martin, Louisville, KY Pinkish A19 [b]From:[/b] spike55_bmw [b][/b] This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex-plastic?

[mark ward]

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-643046238 p {margin:0;}Not to be a stickler, but Chlorine (Cl2) and Bleach - Sodium Hypochlorite (NAClO) usually 3-6% are vastly different compounds. Sodium Hypochlorite will release Chlorine ions during some reactions, including solution in water, with the amount dependent on the pH of the water. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Biccum" To: "Michael Martin" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:27:49 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Plastic Rehab   The mold etc are living organisms.  Cheap chlorine bleach might kill them so their carcasses would rinse right off.  I'd sure try that before any more labor intensive methods.  If it were my bike I'd put undiluted bleach in a "trigger pump" style sprayer and let the little buggers have it.   Household bleach is about 1/2 of one percent chlorine and 99 1/2 percent water, chlorine is a great mold killer.   On 4/30/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Martin wrote: [quote]  Don, I would expect that any mild abrasive polish, such as would be used to return a pink KLR to its original red color, would work for your problem.  I used Meguiar's ScratchX, but it is *extremely* labor intensive.  Maybe someone else has a better product to suggest. Mike Martin, Louisville, KY Pinkish A19 [b]From:[/b] spike55_bmw [b][/b] This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex-plastic?

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[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

And you should never store swimming pool chemicals any where near things metal you value. I bought a house with pool and the dummy before me stored his pool chemicals right beneath the electrical circuit breaker box (big no no). I moved the chemicals out to a plastic storage bin by the pool. It was eating up lawn equipment in the storage building next to it (with the lids fastened). Strong stuff chlorine.....hmm....and we drink water laced with it. Criswell Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:40 PM, mark ward wrote:

  You should Never use Undiluted Bleach on any thing.   (for 1 it don't take that much. But mostly will hurt your bike.) with Over 10 years of servicing Commercial food Equipment. Bleach is used to sanitize dish's In STAINLESS STEEL dish mach's. I have SEEN many stainless steel item's eaten away from drips of Bleach. (and floors) Mark (w.Mich)   [b]From:[/b] John Biccum [b]To:[/b] Michael Martin [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, April 30, 2010 4:27:49 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Plastic Rehab   The mold etc are living organisms.  Cheap chlorine bleach might kill them so their carcasses would rinse right off.  I'd sure try that before any more labor intensive methods.  If it were my bike I'd put undiluted bleach in a "trigger pump" style sprayer and let the little buggers have it.   Household bleach is about 1/2 of one percent chlorine and 99 1/2 percent water, chlorine is a great mold killer.   On 4/30/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Martin wrote:   Don, I would expect that any mild abrasive polish, such as would be used to return a pink KLR to its original red color, would work for your problem.  I used Meguiar's ScratchX, but it is *extremely* labor intensive.  Maybe someone else has a better product to suggest. Mike Martin, Louisville, KY Pinkish A19 [b]From:[/b] spike55_bmw [url=http://yahoo.com]yahoo.com[/url]>[b][/b] This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex-plastic?

[spike55_bmw]

I know that this thread was supposed to be about removing the the discoloration / spots from the lime green KLR plastic but I can't help myself. Back in the day, the company I worked for was having PLC issues in a 'food' manufacturing area that was damp and adjacent to an area that processed peanuts. The PLCs would just go crazy and the equipment would begin to operate in an erratic and dangerous manner. I had some circuit boards analyzed by a metal corrosion specialist and he found that the sulfur from the peanut processing area in combination with the high moisture was attacking the silver solder. This would 'grow' electrically conductive 'whiskers' from one pin on an electronic control chip to another in a ramdom manner, therefore creating a new wiring diagram in the circuit board and chaos in the machine's operation. The PLCs were then placed in better water-resistant enclosures with internal heaters - no more problems. Chemicals + moisture + electrical / electronics don't mix. I'll try some of the plastic rehab suggestion this weekend. THX Don R100, A6F(x2)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@..." wrote: > > And you should never store swimming pool chemicals any where near > things metal you value. I bought a house with pool and the dummy > before me stored his pool chemicals right beneath the electrical > circuit breaker box (big no no). I moved the chemicals out to a > plastic storage bin by the pool. It was eating up lawn equipment in > the storage building next to it (with the lids fastened). Strong stuff > chlorine.....hmm....and we drink water laced with it. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:40 PM, mark ward wrote: > > > You should Never use Undiluted Bleach on any thing. > > > > (for 1 it don't take that much. But mostly will hurt your bike.) > > with Over 10 years of servicing Commercial food Equipment. > > Bleach is used to sanitize dish's In STAINLESS STEEL dish mach's. > > I have SEEN many stainless steel item's eaten away from drips of > > Bleach. (and floors) > > Mark (w.Mich) > > > > > > > > From: John Biccum > > To: Michael Martin > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:27:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Plastic Rehab > > > > > > The mold etc are living organisms. Cheap chlorine bleach might kill > > them so their carcasses would rinse right off. I'd sure try that > > before any more labor intensive methods. If it were my bike I'd put > > undiluted bleach in a "trigger pump" style sprayer and let the > > little buggers have it. > > > > Household bleach is about 1/2 of one percent chlorine and 99 1/2 > > percent water, chlorine is a great mold killer. > > > > On 4/30/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Martin wrote: > > > >> > >> Don, > >> > >> I would expect that any mild abrasive polish, such as would be used > >> to return a pink KLR to its original red color, would work for your > >> problem. I used Meguiar's ScratchX, but it is *extremely* labor > >> intensive. Maybe someone else has a better product to suggest. > >> > >> Mike Martin, > >> Louisville, KY > >> Pinkish A19 > >> > >> From: spike55_bmw > >> This thing sat outside unprotected in northcentral Pennsylvania and > >> the the more horizontal surfaces are spickled with dark > >> discoloration from mold / mildew / algae stuff. > >> Any ideas on products / procedures that might address this sort of > >> discoloration short of sanding or painting with Krylon for flex- > >> plastic? > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

[Kevin Powers]

I haven't read this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned using the products sold for eliminating that chalky surface and restoring the original shine on boats? Kevin

On May 1, 2010 3:10 AM, "spike55_bmw" wrote:

I know that this thread was supposed to be about removing the the discoloration / spots from the lime green KLR plastic but I can't help myself. Back in the day, the company I worked for was having PLC issues in a 'food' manufacturing area that was damp and adjacent to an area that processed peanuts. The PLCs would just go crazy and the equipment would begin to operate in an erratic and dangerous manner. I had some circuit boards analyzed by a metal corrosion specialist and he found that the sulfur from the peanut processing area in combination with the high moisture was attacking the silver solder. This would 'grow' electrically conductive 'whiskers' from one pin on an electronic control chip to another in a ramdom manner, therefore creating a new wiring diagram in the circuit board and chaos in the machine's operation. The PLCs were then placed in better water-resistant enclosures with internal heaters - no more problems. Chemicals + moisture + electrical / electronics don't mix. I'll try some of the plastic rehab suggestion this weekend. THX Don R100, A6F(x2)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@..." wrote: > > And you should ne... > On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:40 PM, mark ward wrote: > > > You should Never use Undiluted ... > > From: John Biccum > > To: Michael Martin > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 4:27:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_K...

[Bob Croley]

It is said that you can't weld 2 dissimilar metals. Chlolrine can.

A buddy stored a Ducati GT 750 engine near his pool supplies.

WTF. A new hunk of metal solidly welded together. Looks nice on a shelf.

 

Big Chet