i need help pls - muffler mod instructions with photos

[spike55_bmw]

Apparently, mine was off from the factory by one tooth on the crankshaft: the counter-balance lobes were properly timed to each other but not to the piston. After correcting at 20K+ miles, I din't 'feel' a lot of difference (handlebars, seat, footpegs). Mirrors were a little better. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Eric J Foster wrote: > > After having ridden a KLR with the front balancer off by ONE tooth, I'd > rather ride a washing machine in spin cycle with a concrete block in it. > > Just fix the bike. > > E > > -- > Guns kill people like silverware made Rosie O'Donnel fat......... > > Eric J Foster > www.xr650r.us > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=ke1lb-9&terra=4&radar=*** >

[Tim Pruitt]

This is going to be a dumb question I'm sure, at least to many of you much more knowledgable than I, but do both versions of the KLR have 2 balancers or just the 08-09's?   I knew a guy who took the balancer out of his Triumph Triple. Someone told him it would be lighter and thereby "go faster". I guess it was sort of a less weight more speed concept. What I remember is that in his case the damn thing shook like a dog Sh*tting peach pits.

--- On [b]Fri, 12/25/09, Thomas Komjathy [i][/i][/b] wrote:

From: Thomas Komjathy Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Balancer system removal To: "Tengai Mark Van Horn" , "Jeff Saline" Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 11:14 PM   Mark What are the symptoms of the bearing going bad, I think I have a similar problem. TK ----- Original Message ---- From: Tengai Mark Van Horn tengai650@reelrider .com> To: Jeff Saline salinej1@juno. com> Cc: klrsisfiddy@ yahoo.com; dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 9:30:15 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Balancer system removal At 6:51 PM -0700 12/25/09, Jeff Saline wrote: >The coolant pump impeller is run from the front balancer shaft. So >removing the balancer system would probably require a new method to power >the impeller. > >I think you could take the balancer system out but I can't think of a >reason it would be worthy of serious consideration. I think the upper left balancer shaft bearing on my Tengai is shot. It looks like replacing this bearing requires splitting the engine cases. Not fun. That would be my reason to do it. A short chain could probably be run to drive the waterpump off the forward balancer shaft. For now, I'll just drop in the low-mileage spare engine I have. Mark

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

I just wish they would have made the balancer gear driven which I think would solved the one weak point of the engine. Wasn't the other 650 they made for a short while gear driven? Wasn't it called a KLX 650? Isn't the somewhat simpler DR 650 a gear driven balancer? Criswell Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 25, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote:

  I keep rolling this over in my mind and can't think of one reason why someone would want to do that... -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Komjathy" yahoo.com> To: "dsn klr650" ups.com> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 4:55:52 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Balancer system removal   Has anyone ever removed the balancer system from the KLR, meaning, taking it out of thge engine and running without it> A well known engine builder I was talking to said it is possible to take the system out and run the engine without it. He indicated there would be a small amount of additional vibration, but not much. What say the collective? TK

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 8:07 AM -0600 12/26/09, roncriswell@... wrote:

I just wish they would have made the balancer gear driven which I think would solved the one weak point of the engine. Wasn't the other 650 they made for a short while gear driven? Wasn't it called a KLX 650? Isn't the somewhat simpler DR 650 a gear driven balancer?

IIRC, the KLX650 had a single, gear-driven balancer.

You can find out for sure by working the fiche on ronayers.com. the KLX650 was available from '93-'96

Mark

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

Attachments :My trouble is that I don't have a large, clean work area in my microscopic house and garage that's already packed to the rim with $hit. Mark At 12:24 PM +0000 12/26/09, spike55_bmw wrote:

>Come on in. The water is fine. Splitting is easy, putting together >probably requires replacing some case-to-case 6mm bolts around the >front counter-balance. None of mine in that area could make it to >18 ft-lbs without popping.

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

I would have bought it over the KLR as it seemed to have better suspension and other stuff .......but the gas tank was too small for adventure touring. Criswell Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Tengai Mark Van Horn > wrote: > At 8:07 AM -0600 12/26/09, roncriswell@... wrote: > I just wish they would have made the balancer gear driven which I > think would solved the one weak point of the engine. Wasn't the > other 650 they made for a short while gear driven? Wasn't it called > a KLX 650? Isn't the somewhat simpler DR 650 a gear driven balancer? > > IIRC, the KLX650 had a single, gear-driven balancer. > You can find out for sure by working the fiche on ronayers.com. the > KLX650 was available from '93-'96 > > Mark

[klr6501995]

Out of two klrs and three motors, I started feeling and hearing the same thing, two at 30k plus. Stock spring with doohickey upgrade and sometimes manual assist with left cover off for adjustment of balancer tensioner adjustment. I haven't seen wear on upper casings by the chain, and I clearanced the lower and hav't seen chain wear. I do and have got upper knock noises on two motor in like 30-40 deg temps on startup. the last two motors burn about quart of oil every 3000 miles. I have been told by some good bike mechanics that clutch baskets can make this noise or feel to a person who is in tune with the vibes of his bike. I don't know... The klr motors do seem to have a vib/harmonic to them. I say this even after riding one or two borrowed bikes for a few miles and rode them like I ride mine. but at 88mph they all sounded the same. But at city speeds and braking the suspension/ motor felt different. Rebuild the whole motor and then worry about the rebuild. Ride the high milage motor then worry about the same stuff such as catostrophic failure. Wear all your gear all the time and ride. That is my .02 cents advice.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Komjathy wrote: > > That sounds like what I am experiencing. Does the rattle, oscillate getting loader and and then becoming quieter, then loader. Mine has an oscillation of about a second between these loader/quieter transitions. I can also feel it in the chassis of the bike, I actually thought something else had come loose. > >

[Tim Pruitt]

Hmmmmm, I see the problem...

--- On [b]Sat, 12/26/09, Tengai Mark Van Horn [i][/i][/b] wrote: From: Tengai Mark Van Horn Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Balancer system removal To: "spike55_bmw" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 10:44 AM   My trouble is that I don't have a large, clean work area in my microscopic house and garage that's already packed to the rim with $hit. Mark At 12:24 PM +0000 12/26/09, spike55_bmw wrote: >Come on in. The water is fine. Splitting is easy, putting together >probably requires replacing some case-to-case 6mm bolts around the >front counter-balance. None of mine in that area could make it to >18 ft-lbs without popping.

[Thomas Komjathy]

Eric LMAO, what a great analogy... TK [b]From:[/b] Eric J Foster [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sat, December 26, 2009 7:45:17 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Balancer system removal   After having ridden a KLR with the front balancer off by ONE tooth, I'd rather ride a washing machine in spin cycle with a concrete block in it. Just fix the bike. E -- Guns kill people like silverware made Rosie O'Donnel fat......... Eric J Foster www.xr650r.us http://www.findu. com/cgi-bin/ find.cgi? call=ke1lb- 9&terra=4& radar=***

[Michael Martin]

Don, My Clymer manual says the 6mm bolts are supposed to be torqued to 71 in-lb, which is about 6 ft-lb. This closely matches the 69 in-lb called out in the instructions at http://www.leftcoastklrs.com/balancer_lever_upgrade.htm Mike Martin, Louisville, KY [b]From:[/b] spike55_bmw [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sat, December 26, 2009 7:24:51 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Balancer system removal   Come on in. The water is fine. Splitting is easy, putting together probably requires replacing some case-to-case 6mm bolts around the front counter-balance. None of mine in that area could make it to 18 ft-lbs without popping. Don R100, A6F