engine flutter @ 5,500 rpm

[Scott Reitor]

You should really contact a lawyer. THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE, but the city has a duty to ensure that it s public works projects are maintained in a safe condition. If there were previous accidents, there will be reports of same to support your case. It sounds like the city is not providing proper drainage for the road, and they should have. Again, this is not legal advice. Scott From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Khoury Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 23:10 To: Martin Cc: DSN KLR650 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Crashed my KLR... Thanks for the tips. My doc said that there is no cast that will help this type of break, I just have to be easy on it and it will hopefully heal. He said that it "won't let you hurt it, at least right now" and he is correct. If I make the mistake of moving it the wrong way it feels akin to someone driving a steak knife in my deltoid with a ball-peen hammer. If it does not heal on its own in 6 weeks, he will put screws in it. After some investigation, it seems this intersection has a history of motorcycle, scooter, bicycle and pedestrian crashes. I talked with the people in the office on that corner, and they've all witnessed two-wheeled crashes there, and one slipped and fell just walking across the street. What's that attorney's number again???? -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:37:17 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Crashed my KLR... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Jeff Khoury wrote: > > Wouldn't you know it?... > > All of the thousands of miles I ride in some of the hairiest roads and trails, I crash 4 blocks from home. I was out running errands on Sunday and made a low-speed right hand turn through some water that had pooled in an intersection. Unfortunately, this water had been standing there for some time due to a drainage problem and snotty slick algae had grown on the street. > > As soon as my front tire hit the algae, the front end washed out. I tried to recover, but the street was potholed and covered with gravel, so I couldn't get it to hook up. The back tire hit the Algae and washed out as well, at at that point it was all over. I low sided and went down hard. > > I was wearing my armored jacket, which protected my elbow but the impact caused me to break my upper arm longitudinally (Like splitting a log). The luggage rack ended up on my foot and I have a little rash on my knee. It's funny that I know I took much harder falls in my childhood and I didn't break anything. I guess now at 39, it just hurts more. > > The bike took about $400.00 of cosmetic damage, and after cursing like a sailor at the pain, I managed to pick it up and ride it home. I can still ride, but I have to place my right hand on the bars with my left hand, and then take off. Ugh. 6 weeks until the bone heals before I can do any serious riding... and I was gonna be going on an Iron Butt ride next month. > > Just as a warning to other KLRistas, avoid the intersection of Mesmer Ave and Major St in Culver City. You can literally skate on the concrete in your boots! > > -Jeff Khoury > Jeff, I feel your pain. Several of us, actually. grind teeth fitfully. From your description, you are lucky not to have broken collar bone and ribs as well. What ever you do, follow the dr.s instruction EXPLICITLY and the therapist regimen (mine was named Helga--and she liked pain) like a religious zealot. Not all 6 week recoveries are created equal. Hope it is only 6 weeks. You might also consider reading about calcium replacements to speed bone developement. revmaaatin. ps. did I mention, be glad you escaped without any broken ribs.... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeffrey]

Ouch. Someone mentioned algae causing crash. Someone else mentioned the 405 and the 10 fwys. I have dumped it in water/algae before but I kind of figured there might be algae in there and went dn at less than 5 mph. The 405 fwy in Los Angeles is a nightmare. Cagers just seem to hate motorcycles/motorcyclists on it. Probably has much to do with cagers often getting stuck in severe congestion and being late to work. Be esp. careful between the 10 Santa Monica Fwy and the 101 Ventura Fwy on the 405. I have had a couple of close calls on the 405 San Diego Fwy. Portions south of the 10 have been under construction for years and there is no emergency lane in places and lanes are thinner than normal. You almost need to carry a shotgun like the terminator! The other Jeffrey

[Martin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rosslindberg" wrote:

> > Therapist, huh? So that's what they call them now > > Sorry Rev, I just couldn't pass that one up. > > Ross Lindberg > Fertile, MN > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" wrote: > > > What ever you do, follow the dr.s instruction EXPLICITLY and the therapist regimen (mine was named Helga--and she liked pain). >

Ross, Yeah, therapist. The title Terrorist was already taken. I don't 'name them'--I just read the name tag--between the bouts of tears and staggering for breath. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

(snip) You should really contact a lawyer. ... Scott (/snip) I did... and after showing him this: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30373073&l=e93512d46d&id=1121850447 And this: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371480&l=ba4e523ce6&id=1121850447 And this: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371478&l=e2276bf910&id=1121850447 and a video of the intersection (you gotta see this) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC_WF17sKI He said "this one shouldn't be hard to win"... haha.

[Scott Reitor]

I'll have to look at the youtube video later (damn DOD computers). Glad to hear you contacted a lawyer though. Scott

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > (snip) > > You should really contact a lawyer. ... > > Scott > > (/snip) > > > I did... and after showing him this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30373073&l=e93512d46d&id=1121850447 > > > And this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371480&l=ba4e523ce6&id=1121850447 > > And this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371478&l=e2276bf910&id=1121850447 > > and a video of the intersection (you gotta see this) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC_WF17sKI > > > > > He said "this one shouldn't be hard to win"... > > haha. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[eddie self]

Just be glad you do not live in Jefferson county Alabama our county is close to 4 BILLION bucks in debt and considering bankruptcy I bet it would never get to court here glad you were not killed , that place looked like an ice skating ring Eddie S From: Scott Reitor [mailto:scottreitor@...] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:11 PM To: Jeff Khoury Cc: DSN KLR650 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Crashed my KLR... I'll have to look at the youtube video later (damn DOD computers). Glad to hear you contacted a lawyer though. Scott On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jeff Khoury > wrote:

> (snip) > > You should really contact a lawyer. ... > > Scott > > (/snip) > > > I did... and after showing him this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30373073

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> > > And this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371480

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> > And this: > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30371478

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> > and a video of the intersection (you gotta see this) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC_WF17sKI > > > > > He said "this one shouldn't be hard to win"... > > haha. > >

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[Rick McCauley]

Man you got banged up pretty good. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: Scott Reitor Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:09:44 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Crashed my KLR... (snip) You should really contact a lawyer. ... Scott (/snip) I did... and after showing him this: http://www.facebook .com/photo. php?pid=30373073 &l=e93512d46d& id=1121850447 And this: http://www.facebook .com/photo. php?pid=30371480 &l=ba4e523ce6& id=1121850447 And this: http://www.facebook .com/photo. php?pid=30371478 &l=e2276bf910& id=1121850447 and a video of the intersection (you gotta see this) http://www.youtube com/watch? v=jxC_WF17sKI He said "this one shouldn't be hard to win"... haha. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[spike55_bmw]

The performance slowly degraded and this morning it could only get to 4,000 rpms. This is the third time I had the diaphragm out but the two tears were now very obvious (about 5mm long this time). I can't believe that I didn't see them when they were limiting performance to 5,500 rpms. If you need to replace yours, go to a Harley dealer and ask for Part # 27585-88, they seem to always have one in stock. It was less than $50 with tax. The Kawi dealer wants $132 for the same thing plus they'll have to order it. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "spike55_bmw" wrote: > > I just returned from a 2,500 mile trip from PA (home base) to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan / Wisconsin. As the trip progressed my '06 KLR seemed like it developed a miss / on-off surging sensation (at steady throttle position) and got worse near the end of the trip. MPG were always 48+ to 53 - no deterioation as the trip progressed. > > I did look into some possible issues but no change so far. What I have noticed lately is that it seems like it is running out of gas at 5,500 rpms. I'll run 3rd gear up to that and maybe a little past, shift into 4th and the engine 'flutters' at 5,500 rpms at full throttle, it continues to flutter in 5th and the rpms will very slowly creep up still at full throttle. Not awe inspiring at this point - something is noticably wrong and slowly getting worse. > > 1.) I checked the valve clearances - all were well within spec > 2.) I did take apart the carb but only to look at the major components (no jets removed) - nothing obviously broken / dirty / etc > 3.) I did adjust the fuel / air mixture screw one-half turn more rich - no change - still backfiring on decel > 4.) I cleaned an already clean air filter - no change > 5.) I ran the bike with the cleaned air filter with the airbox hatch off - very load but no change > 6.) I replaced the spark plug with standard and verified the gap - no change > 7.) I made sure that the exhaust header bolts where tight - no change > 8.) I checked the fuel tank breather tube system and it was free flowing > 9.) While the engine was fluttering, I opened the gas cap - no change > 10.) While the engine was fluttering, I opened and closed the choke - no change > 11.) I ran the bike with the petcock set to reserve - no change > > I'm open for suggestions. I'm thinking: fuel or air, not timing because the engine will initially rev up and over 5,500 rpms but then seems to become 'starved' until you leave off the throttle and it can catch up. > > I still have the original vacuum line between the carb and petcock - maybe it is now leaking / collapsing under higher stress, thereby restricting fuel flow. I have not taken apart the petcock but maybe it isn't as free-flowing as it should be - not holding the vacuum to stay open or it has a partially clogged filter. > > I have not modified the carb other than making the fuel / air more rich but maybe more is needed. > > Don R100, A6F >