rantings of a klr rider

[notanymoore]

13K on the odometer. Still stock: engine, carb, doohickey, suspension, windshield, cables. The usual oil, coolant and chain maintenance and OEM Doohickey adjustment schedule per procedure (doohickey not replaced). Additions: Full Nerf Bars and pegs, 16 tooth front sprocket, SuperBike X-Ring chain, Bridgestone Trailwing Tires, Acerbis Front Fender, JC Whitney medium luggage, Throttle Rocker, Anti-vibe handlebar ends, Steiner ATV seat from Wal-Mart ($18), Magnetic drain plug. Evaluation: The sprocket, chain and tires make a world of difference in the drivetrain over OEM equipment. First gear a little slow on starts with 16 teeth and the extra tooth means hunting between 3/4/5 at city speeds. But rural / highway ride improves significantly. Anti-vibe helps but no miracles here. The Acerbis front fender really smooths highway ride quality. A lot more solid feel, no more handlebar wrestling at 70 MPH+. A throttle rocker makes the bike almost perfect for casual cruising. No good for off-roading though. Steiner ATV seat cover from Wal-Mart is a significant upgrade from stock seat. I put 240 miles on it yesterday. Best $18 bucks I spent on the bike. After 3 oil changes, I see no need for the magnetic drain plug. Maybe I'm lucky? Nerf bars are indispensable in protecting KLR parts. The JC Whitney medium luggage is the perfect size for the bike. Praises: After 4 years, bike is at peak performance. A reasonable highway cruiser within a 4-5 hour radius. Ride and handling really improves with 16 tooth sprocket, chain, tires and smaller Acerbis front fender. Steiner seat improves ride comfort. A good (sub)urban commuter bike that's easy riding, easy handling, cheap to insure, run and maintain. I prefer the pre-2008 plastics to current setup which looks to crotch-rocket like and doesn't stand up to off-road wear nd tear. Complaints: same as before. Top heavy with full gas tank. Not a really a heavy-duty off-road machine as too many breakables. Needs 10 more horsepower, EFI and a 6-speed tranny with lower first gear and taller top gear.

[Rick McCauley]

You are all speaking too generally. There is more to it than color. Yes the green ones are the faster ones, but being even more specific, it is the green A17 that is the fastest. Rick A17

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Ron Magen wrote: From: Ron Magen Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Rantings of a KLR rider To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 7:15 AM You are both full of yourselves . . . it's the OD Green ones. We hide in the bushes and knock off you flashy guys. Ron Posted by: "transalp 1" transalp1@mindsprin g.com edgyver31906 Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:39 am ((PDT)) 27A. Only the ones repainted red. eddie > [Original Message] > From: Lourd Baltimore > To: > Date: 8/31/2009 3:53:08 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Rantings of a KLR rider > > You forgot No. 27: The green KLR's are faster. > > Josh > . > > Messages in this topic (5) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 1b. Rantings of a KLR rider Posted by: "Robert Waters" robertwaters@ yahoo.com robertwaters Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:26 am ((PDT)) Hill, I really enjoyed your rantings. One more I would add is "Avoid riding in the evenings when/where deer are a threat. If you see one deer expect there to be others. A rider in my area was killed last week. The deer actually hit him from the side. rw Rantings of a KLR rider Posted by: "hill_buster" tsucol11@gmail. com hill_buster Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:15 pm (PDT) 1- I use Castrol 10-40 motorcycle oil. I don't care about oil deposits or oil shearing. I just do. 2- I changed my doohickey at 12000 km, why? because I didn't want a rear wheel lock up at 100 kph. Nuff said. 3- Handlebar vibrations are a fact of life on a KLR, get over it. 4- I use K270 tires (F & R).They are cheap, high mileage tires. They suck on wet pavement, so what, slow down. 5- Don't wash your bike it makes it look tame. 6- Ride hard & change your oil often (3000km). 7- Respect the bikes maintenance schedule. 8- Most larger bike riders do wave back. A 1 finger wave is hard to see, remember they are holding on for dear life. 9- Most dual sport riders I know don't give a damn about the weather, they just ride. 10- Take the time to change your own tires. The confidence you get is invaluable when you decide to go off road. 11- Farkles are as useful as a t*t on a bull, but hey its your money. 12- My carb is stock, why mess with perfection. 13- Need better bike performance? get a 14 tooth front sprocket. 14- Gas with 10-15% ethanol sucks. Riding performance remains the same but backfiring increases big time. 15- Use Supreme gas every 3-4 tank fill ups. It keeps the carb varnish free.. 16- Ride some more. 17- A lone ride is relaxing. Riding with others is fun. 18- Always help a fellow rider even if he rides a Harley. 19- I respect all riders as long as they ride. I have little use for posers.. 20-A riders true mettle is measured by his patience in waiting for less experienced riders. 21- Drive defensively. 22- Use armor or lose flesh, your choice. 23- Be seen at night. 24- Did you do your maintenance yet? 25- Don't be intimidated by larger bikes, it's a known fact that dual sport riders have better reflexes due to off roading. 26- Only idiots drink & drive. Ride safe Hill_buster [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (5) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 1c. Re: Rantings of a KLR rider Posted by: "notanymoore" RJTaylor@compuserve .com notanymoore Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:07 am ((PDT)) 1, I like Castrol, but I use 20W-50, 2) Still on my OEM at 13K Miles 3) That's what handle barends are for. Don't elimiante vibration it but certainly reduce it. 4) I like the Bridgestone Trailwings. Better on pavement, reasonable off. 5) Sorry, can't agree. Form follows function. A clean machine is a well maintained machine. 6) Ride and change youtr oil often. 7) Who can argue? 8) About 2/3's the large bike riders from where I'm at. Few care enough to dispalya single digit. 9) If you says so. Chicago weather isn't as kind as most. 10) If necessary. I carry a spray can of tire filler to get me home. 11) Depends on what you use the bike for. Mine's more of a commuter/recreation vehicle than a stump jumper. Not a lot of farkles for that. 12) Perfectly ordinary. KLR should join the 21st century and get EFI. It would add 5 HP and improve the top end. 13) How about EFI and a 6-speed tranny with lower first gear and a taller top gear? That would be perfection. 14) Not me. But that's what you get with "perfect " carburation. 15) Use good gasoline and an occasional carb cleaner. 16) Of course. 17) Ditto. 18) Ditto #2. 19) Ditto #3. Except the majority of riders on expensive rides qualify as "posers". 20) Ditto #4. Car or motorcycle. 21) Ditto #5. My 2 rules: a) always assume they don't see you. b) never pick a fight with anything that weighs more than you do. 22) I don't wear armor. But then I don't ride off road much. I always wear - helmet, gloves, boots, jeans, jacket. 23) Ditto #6 24) Always. Not necessarily on a rigid schedule. 25) See #21. 26) Ditto #7 and AMEN BROTHER. I can;t see how they do those "poker runs". --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "hill_buster" wrote: > > 1- I use Castrol 10-40 motorcycle oil. I don't care about oil deposits or > oil shearing. I just do. > > 2- I changed my doohickey at 12000 km, why? because I didn't want a rear > wheel lock up at 100 kph. Nuff said. > > 3- Handlebar vibrations are a fact of life on a KLR, get over it. > > 4- I use K270 tires (F & R).They are cheap, high mileage tires. They suck > on wet pavement, so what, slow down. > > 5- Don't wash your bike it makes it look tame. > > 6- Ride hard & change your oil often (3000km). > > 7- Respect the bikes maintenance schedule. > > 8- Most larger bike riders do wave back. A 1 finger wave is hard to see, > remember they are holding on for dear life. > > 9- Most dual sport riders I know don't give a damn about the weather, they > just ride. > > 10- Take the time to change your own tires. The confidence you get is > invaluable when you decide to go off road. > > 11- Farkles are as useful as a t*t on a bull, but hey its your money. > > 12- My carb is stock, why mess with perfection. > > 13- Need better bike performance? get a 14 tooth front sprocket. > > 14- Gas with 10-15% ethanol sucks. Riding performance remains the same but > backfiring increases big time. > > 15- Use Supreme gas every 3-4 tank fill ups. It keeps the carb varnish > free. > > 16- Ride some more. > > 17- A lone ride is relaxing. Riding with others is fun. > > 18- Always help a fellow rider even if he rides a Harley. > > 19- I respect all riders as long as they ride. I have little use for > posers. > > 20-A riders true mettle is measured by his patience in waiting for less > experienced riders. > > 21- Drive defensively. > > 22- Use armor or lose flesh, your choice. > > 23- Be seen at night. > > 24- Did you do your maintenance yet? > > 25- Don't be intimidated by larger bikes, it's a known fact that dual > sport riders have better reflexes due to off roading. > > 26- Only idiots drink & drive. > > Ride safe > > Hill_buster > Messages in this topic (5) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 2a. Re: KLR super plug Posted by: "Rick McCauley" ramachm12@yahoo. com ramachm12 Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:12 am ((PDT)) I just threw a generic question out there to see if there was any advantage to using a different plug than the stock one. You never know what you might learn. I also keep my bike maintained, so it appears that there is no advantage to an expensive plug, other than life of the plug. Might as well use stock, and put a fresh one in every couple years. Rick A17 --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Lourd Baltimore wrote: From: Lourd Baltimore Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR super plug To: dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:44 AM If you were looking for more responses, then you should have asked which is the best oil to use in your bike.... I've had iridium recommended to me, but I've never tried anything other than stock plugs on all my vehicles including my KLR. I've never had a problem, but then again I'm fairly diligent with all my maintenance. I guess it also depends on what you mean as "best" for the KLR. Performance, reliability, MPG, all of the above? Since I've only used stock, I can't tell you what I'm missing with using a iridium, split-fire, or other improved plugs. As far as brands go, I stick with Bosch or NGK. I don't mean to slight other brands, it's just that I've never had a problem with those two brands and so never saw a reason to switch. Josh A7 . ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Rick McCauley To: dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:57:10 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR super plug Well, we have one vote for the iridium plug, and one for stock. Where do we go from here? Rick A17 --- On Fri, 8/28/09, judjonzz wrote: From: judjonzz Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR super plug To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 4:46 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > What spark plug works best in the KLR? > Stock, or some super plug like a platinum, or iridium. > Why would one be better than the other, and is it good enough to > justify the extra cost? > My original plug, the standard NGK, came out at about 35,000 miles. The gap had opened up quite a bit, but it was still sparking happily away. I have heard mechanics grumbling about platinum and iridium in BMW cars, and can't think of a good reason to spend the extra money, even if it is only once every three or four years. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (8) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 3a. 2000 klr will not idle or run under 2500 rpm Posted by: "klr6502k" klr6502k@yahoo. ca klr6502k Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:39 am ((PDT)) only one thing happened this spring that may have caused a problem. bike fell over not too hard on its side at the start of the season. the problem the bike will start and idle fine from dead cold after 2 mins of riding bike will stall under 2000-2500 rpm and will not idle. runs VERY rough if you feather the throttle to try and run it under 2500 rpm or when you are trying to get it to spin up over 2500 just after a start. after it stalls out you can start it again at about 1/4 throttle feels like it is flooded. been told from people following me that the bike smells like it is running rich. the biggest problem. the bike only does it ever 3rd of 4th trip. in warm or cold weather. runs fine for 4 hours in traffic or on back roads for a few days then will start stalling with no notice. then runs fine again. things tired so far. bad gas?- drained the gas tank, fresh gas in twice. carb?- removed and cleaned twice, then just replaced with a loaner vaccum line to peacock?-replaced with HD lines and 90's so it cannot kink. peacock?-removed checked for proper operation and fuel flow. seems ok the worst issue is that my friends 2008 klr is now acting the same as mine,we were on a bike trip in june and his ran fine the entire time we were there while mine started having problems on the trip.(just after it fell over or so it seemed at the time) he has not ridden his bike since the trip. that makes me think gas.. but i have gone 2000 kms since the trip he has gone nowhere until last weekend when he found his bike to have a problem? should we be looking at sabotage and if so how? i am at my wits end. this season has been nothing but problems with the bike. klr6502k Messages in this topic (4) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 3b. 2000 klr will not idle or run under 2500 rpm Posted by: "klr6502k" klr6502k@yahoo. ca klr6502k Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:44 am ((PDT)) only one thing happened this spring that may have caused a problem. bike fell over not too hard on its side at the start of the season. the problem the bike will start and idle fine from dead cold after 2 mins of riding bike will stall under 2000-2500 rpm and will not idle. runs VERY rough if you feather the throttle to try and run it under 2500 rpm or when you are trying to get it to spin up over 2500 just after a start. after it stalls out you can start it again at about 1/4 throttle feels like it is flooded. been told from people following me that the bike smells like it is running rich. the biggest problem. the bike only does it ever 3rd of 4th trip. in warm or cold weather. runs fine for 4 hours in traffic or on back roads for a few days then will start stalling with no notice. then runs fine again. things tired so far. bad gas?- drained the gas tank, fresh gas in twice. carb?- removed and cleaned twice, then just replaced with a loaner vaccum line to peacock?-replaced with HD lines and 90's so it cannot kink. peacock?-removed checked for proper operation and fuel flow. seems ok the worst issue is that my friends 2008 klr is now acting the same as mine,we were on a bike trip in june and his ran fine the entire time we were there while mine started having problems on the trip.(just after it fell over or so it seemed at the time) he has not ridden his bike since the trip. that makes me think gas.. but i have gone 2000 kms since the trip he has gone nowhere until last weekend when he found his bike to have a problem? should we be looking at sabotage and if so how? i am at my wits end. this season has been nothing but problems with the bike. klr6502k Messages in this topic (4) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 3c. Re: 2000 klr will not idle or run under 2500 rpm Posted by: "Richard Decker" richarddecker@ gmail.com richarddecker81 Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:08 pm ((PDT)) Sounds to me like your choke is stuck on. Have you tried removing the choke cable? It could be that it's stuck and pulling your choke slightly. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:39 AM, klr6502k wrote: > > > only one thing happened this spring that may have caused a problem. > bike fell over not too hard on its side at the start of the season. > > the problem > the bike will start and idle fine from dead cold after 2 mins of riding > bike will stall under 2000-2500 rpm and will not idle. runs VERY rough if > you feather the throttle to try and run it under 2500 rpm or when you are > trying to get it to spin up over 2500 just after a start. > after it stalls out you can start it again at about 1/4 throttle feels > like > it is flooded. been told from people following me that the bike smells > like > it is running rich. > the biggest problem. > the bike only does it ever 3rd of 4th trip. in warm or cold weather. runs > fine for 4 hours in traffic or on back roads for a few days then will > start > stalling with no notice. then runs fine again. > > things tired so far. > bad gas?- drained the gas tank, fresh gas in twice. > carb?- removed and cleaned twice, then just replaced with a loaner > vaccum line to peacock?-replaced with HD lines and 90's so it cannot > kink.. > peacock?-removed checked for proper operation and fuel flow. seems ok > > the worst issue is that my friends 2008 klr is now acting the same as > mine,we were on a bike trip in june and his ran fine the entire time we > were > there while mine started having problems on the trip.(just after it fell > over or so it seemed at the time) > he has not ridden his bike since the trip. > > that makes me think gas.. but i have gone 2000 kms since the trip he has > gone nowhere until last weekend when he found his bike to have a problem? > > should we be looking at sabotage and if so how? > > i am at my wits end. this season has been nothing but problems with the > bike. > > klr6502k > > > -- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (4) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 3d. Re: 2000 klr will not idle or run under 2500 rpm Posted by: "klr6502k" klr6502k@yahoo. ca klr6502k Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:20 pm ((PDT)) yes carb was removed and replaced with a known good one. choke cable was replaced at the same time with a different one. klr6502k -- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Richard Decker wrote: > > Sounds to me like your choke is stuck on. Have you tried removing the > choke > cable? It could be that it's stuck and pulling your choke slightly. > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:39 AM, klr6502k wrote: Messages in this topic (4) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 4. Late Registration Extended - Yosemite Dual Sport Adventure - Septemb Posted by: "Lawrence Borgens" lawrence@familyoffr oadadventures. com lborgens Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:24 am ((PDT)) Fellow Dual Sport Rider, It's almost here. With only about 50 spots left open for this year's run we are extending early registration until Midnight on Monday September 7th, 2009! What are people saying about Family Off-Road Adventures events? "In the morning I was a beginner rider and at the end of the day I felt like I was closer to an intermediate. Once I made it thru my confidence had risen and I now feel more willing to be adventuresome on my rides. Looking forward to another ride with FORA." - Ms. Debi P., Benicia, CA ". A group of strangers quickly became friends at the morning registration and safety meeting, brought together by our love of adventure and the outdoors. "Hey look at that.", "Great idea.", "Where did you find that?" and "I'm going to do that to mine." could be heard through the group as we looked over each other's rides, the personal modifications we had made sent sparks of inspiration through the group. There was no "us" and "them" based on what you ride, you were there, and what matters is you do ride. . Amazed at the trails we were riding, "You couldn't make mud like this if you tried" and "This is the most challenging ride ever" could be heard. . There was only one way to come out of this ride, being a better rider, knowing your abilities better, and finding that there was a whole lot more you could do on your ride then you ever thought. I look forward to next year, I will be there!" - Mr. Scott M., Tracy, CA Event is operated under permit from the Stanislaus National Forest and caters to ALL street legal dual sport motorcycles. For more details or to register on-line please see our website at: http://www.familyof froadadventures. com/YosemiteDual SportAdventure. asp Happy Trails! Lawrence Borgens Founder cid:image002.jpg@ 01C80A67. C7C98080 Family Off-Road Adventures "Fun on Two Wheels!" AMA Charter #: 8058 AMA District 36 Dual Sport Liaison lawrence@familyoffr oadadventures. com 209.649.3633 209.939.0628 (fax) PO Box 8633 Stockton, CA 95208 http://www.familyof froadadventures. com/> www.familyoffroadad ventures. com ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Messages in this topic (1) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 5. 2006 Red KLR 650 - Season 4 Evaluation (1/2 way mark) Posted by: "notanymoore" RJTaylor@compuserve .com notanymoore Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:07 pm ((PDT)) 13K on the odometer. Still stock: engine, carb, doohickey, suspension, windshield, cables. The usual oil, coolant and chain maintenance and OEM Doohickey adjustment schedule per procedure (doohickey not replaced). Additions: Full Nerf Bars and pegs, 16 tooth front sprocket, SuperBike X-Ring chain, Bridgestone Trailwing Tires, Acerbis Front Fender, JC Whitney medium luggage, Throttle Rocker, Anti-vibe handlebar ends, Steiner ATV seat from Wal-Mart ($18), Magnetic drain plug. Evaluation: The sprocket, chain and tires make a world of difference in the drivetrain over OEM equipment. First gear a little slow on starts with 16 teeth and the extra tooth means hunting between 3/4/5 at city speeds. But rural / highway ride improves significantly. Anti-vibe helps but no miracles here. The Acerbis front fender really smooths highway ride quality. A lot more solid feel, no more handlebar wrestling at 70 MPH+. A throttle rocker makes the bike almost perfect for casual cruising. No good for off-roading though. Steiner ATV seat cover from Wal-Mart is a significant upgrade from stock seat. I put 240 miles on it yesterday. Best $18 bucks I spent on the bike. After 3 oil changes, I see no need for the magnetic drain plug. Maybe I'm lucky? Nerf bars are indispensable in protecting KLR parts. The JC Whitney medium luggage is the perfect size for the bike. Praises: After 4 years, bike is at peak performance. A reasonable highway cruiser within a 4-5 hour radius. Ride and handling really improves with 16 tooth sprocket, chain, tires and smaller Acerbis front fender. Steiner seat improves ride comfort. A good (sub)urban commuter bike that's easy riding, easy handling, cheap to insure, run and maintain. I prefer the pre-2008 plastics to current setup which looks to crotch-rocket like and doesn't stand up to off-road wear nd tear. Complaints: same as before. Top heavy with full gas tank. Not a really a heavy-duty off-road machine as too many breakables. Needs 10 more horsepower, EFI and a 6-speed tranny with lower first gear and taller top gear. Messages in this topic (1) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 6a. Re: Stearns Seat Cover Posted by: "notanymoore" RJTaylor@compuserve .com notanymoore Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:13 pm ((PDT)) I agree. Ordered one last week and put 240 miles on it yesterday. Sore, but(t) not so much as the OEM seat. It does make the bike a bit taller but doesn't bother my 32" inseam. Installation is simple. Just have to tighten the straps and put them under the side covers. Excellent by ay $18 versus a $200 Corbin seat. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "transalp 1" wrote: > > After reading about it here & seeing one in my local Walmart, I bought a > Stearns ATV seat cover last night and installed it this morning. > I shortened the straps and used really short sheet metal screws to attach > them to the underside of the seat pan. If I need to, > I can unbuckl the cover and remove it without the straps getting > misplaced. > > Impressions: > * It makes an already tall bike taller. Short folks like me, be warned. =) > * I can already tell a positive difference in comfort just riding around > town. I like it! > * For under $20, it's a tough-to-beat value. It's worth a try. If you > don't like it, > an ATV owning neighbor would probably enjoy it. Trade 'em for some > venison, etc...! > > For those interested in how it looks, > I've uploaded some photos in a folder called "Poor man's Seat Cover" on > the Yahoo group site. > Personally, I think it almost looks like it was made for a KLR! The width > & length are pretty close to the stock seat. > If you have Avon Gripsters, it may appear as you've found a seat cover to > match your tread pattern. > > > eddie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Messages in this topic (4) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 7a. Re: Front Disk Rotor Bolts Posted by: "krgrife" Krgrife@aol. com krgrife Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:33 pm ((PDT)) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Randall Marbach wrote: I have only found them from the dealer. > > Does anybody know if the 9 bolts that hold the front disk to the front hub > on an A17 are special order, > or if they can be found in any hardware store. > > I need a set to mount a KLR front rotor to a KLR front hub to used as part > of a wheel assembly on a sidecar > I am building. > > TIA > > Randy from Burbank > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Messages in this topic (5) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ 7b. Re: Front Disk Rotor Bolts Posted by: "Randall Marbach" remarbach@yahoo. com remarbach Date: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:29 pm ((PDT)) Hi All Thanks for all the feedback about the front rotor bolts. I found somebody on this list that had a set in good shape and he is sending them to me. This list is a fantastic resource. Randy from Burbank. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: guymanbro To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:57:08 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Front Disk Rotor Bolts Nope, the nylock nuts are for the rear sprocket. The rotor bolts have a shoulder that center them in the mounting holes on the disc. I've never tried to source them so I can't be of much help there. But if you have a local place with a decent selection of metric hardware, why not just pull one from your front wheel when you get to the store and see what the friendly folks have to say about a match. da Vermonster --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > I don't know if the KLR is different from every other bike I've worked on, > but normally they're standard Nylock nuts. > > -Jeff Khoury > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randall Marbach" > > Does anybody know if the 9 bolts that hold the front disk to the front hub > on an A17 are special order, > or if they can be found in any hardware store. > > I need a set to mount a KLR front rotor to a KLR front hub to used as part > of a wheel assembly on a sidecar > I am building. > > TIA > > Randy from Burbank > ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! 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[Monty]

<<13K on the odometer. Still stock: engine, carb, doohickey, suspension, windshield, cables. The usual oil, coolant and chain maintenance and OEM Doohickey adjustment schedule per procedure (doohickey not replaced). After 3 oil changes, I see no need for the magnetic drain plug. Maybe I'm lucky? Nerf bars are indispensable in protecting KLR parts. The JC Whitney medium luggage is the perfect size for the bike. >> ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ RJTaylor - Maybe you are lucky? Dancing around the doohickey issue can be a chancy proposition. It's not fun or a fancy upgrade but one I'd recommend you do. Following the many detailed instructions posted really make it a straight forward repair. You'll also get to know your bike that much better. Especially if you intend on keeping your KLR and or if you ride in any out of the way places. Why not make your KLR bullet proof? Hope your luck hold out mate! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Monty" wrote:

>> > After 3 oil changes, I see no need for the magnetic drain plug. Maybe I'm > lucky?

Hi Monty, Are you serious, or is this a troll? Is your statement made by experience; ie, there has been no 'fuzz' on my mag-oil plug, or are you stating this from sense of empirical data, 'my bike has not seized yet?" Just curious at your deductive reasoning.... Tell me, How many systems-monitors are built into the OEM bike? Any systems that would tell you things are going bust? Just two: the oil filter, and the temp gauge. Yeah, you might include the sight widows for the oil, brake fluids. But for the sake of argument, it is only two. You increase the monitoring devices by 50% with a magnetic plug--and what ever is caught on that plug, is not being forced through the oil pump. It's your bike--monitor it as you wish. revmaaatin.