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southampton12000
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stuck float valve

Post by southampton12000 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:05 pm

I have a klr in Mexico that has been sitting with full gas tank since april. Now bike won't start and seems like there is no gas to carb. Is it hard for a mechanically challenged individual to fix the stuck float valve and is there any simple way to do it step by step. Thanks Brian

Harry Seifert
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stuck float valve

Post by Harry Seifert » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:31 pm

Empty the tank and refill it with fresh fuel and a goodly sized dose of SeaFoam. Turn on the petcock and open the bowl drain and see if anything dribbles through. If it does, let a quart or so of the SeaFoamed fuel flow through and then let it sit for a while. If no fuel is dribbling through, rap the float bowl with the handle of a screwdriver and see if you can loosen anything with that..............otherwise, get the Clymer manual from Fred and follow the Carb disassembly and re assembly directions..................it's not that hard. Just make sure you have a very clean area to work in and a decent set of tools. Be careful with the four bowl retaining screws; they're made of a compressed oatmeal-like substance and are easily stripped. Make sure you have a really good quality #1 (or #2) Phillips screwdriver and/or a decent impact driver set with a good and clean Phillips bit. KLR carbs are definitely not rocket science and with a little patience and steady fingers, they are easy to clean and reassemble. Be sure to follow the manual, step for step. Buddy bseifert71@...
> [Original Message] > From: southampton12000 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 12/6/2008 10:05:48 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] stuck float valve > > I have a klr in Mexico that has been sitting with full gas tank since > april. Now bike won't start and seems like there is no gas to carb. > > Is it hard for a mechanically challenged individual to fix the stuck > float valve and is there any simple way to do it step by step. > Thanks > Brian > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

bad_dancer2008
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stuck float valve

Post by bad_dancer2008 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:45 pm

Fuel, spark & air. Begin the diagnosis and start with the easy stuff first. Look inside the airbox first then be sure the pink vent hose running from the carb to the bottom of the bike is open and clean. Next remove old fuel and add fresh fuel. Then open the carb drain screw and pull a vacuum on the little hose while it's attached to the petcock to confirm if fuel is making to the carb. These vacuum activated petcocks can be the problem or you may need to clean the filter socks on the intake tubes. If you have fuel to the carb next check your spark by removing the spark plug and grounding it to the head. If still no love then find a nice spot with a table and clean towels and get busy pulling the carb off and apart for a cleaning. Remember carb cleaner will destroy rubber gaskets, o rings and diaphragms. Not sure if there is a web site detailing the carb disassembly procedures but the shop manual diagrams all the parts and getting the bowl of is easy. Whenever you store the bike be sure to drain the float bowl to avoid fouling. keep us posted. --Jim
> I have a klr in Mexico that has been sitting with full gas tank since > april. Now bike won't start and seems like there is no gas to carb. > > Is it hard for a mechanically challenged individual to fix the stuck > float valve and is there any simple way to do it step by step. > Thanks > Brian >

John Biccum
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six 2008 klx250s with new bike warantee $4099 each (seattle area) n

Post by John Biccum » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:59 pm

I was at my favorite Kawasaki dealer this morning, Waldron Kawasaki in Issaquah, WA. They have about a six or seven 2008 KLX250S that have been used for rider school bikes. The mileage on these bikes ranges from one with 17 miles (yes seventeen miles!) to one with about 300 miles. Each of the bikes looks new and has a new bike warrantee, one year from the date you would buy it. If you were considering one of these bikes this looks to be a real good deal. (no affiliation, just a satisfied customer of this shop for many years) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jud Jones
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stuck float valve

Post by Jud Jones » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:42 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "southampton12000" wrote:
> > I have a klr in Mexico that has been sitting with full gas tank since > april. Now bike won't start
Let's start with what you know: 1. Your bike has been sitting; and 2. It doesn't start. Given what you know, I would start with the most likely hypothesis, that your pilot valve is gummed up, and start with SeaFoam in the fuel, move from there to Yamaha carb cleaner in the float bowl, and if that didn't work, manually clean the pilot jet.
>and seems like there is no gas to carb. >
What do you know that you aren't telling, that leads you to this conclusion?.
> > Is it hard for a mechanically challenged individual to fix the stuck > float valve and is there any simple way to do it step by step.
Probably not, and yes. You can usually do it by rapping the float bowl with a screwdriver handle. But lets see if that's really your problem before we start whacking your bike. On second thought, go ahead and whack it. It's easy, and if it doesn't work, it costs you nothing. Socratically yours, Jud

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stuck float valve

Post by dooden » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:05 am

Using the info you provided, I would likely put a drain tube on the bottom of the carb, open the drain valve screw, turn tank valve to the "on" position, pull the vacuum line off and suck on it to make the fuel flow to the carb, and let it drain out the bowl (through tube into a jar so I could see what came out ) after letting a good quanity of fuel flow, close the drain valve screw, suck on vacuum hose again to get float bowl to fill up, reconnect the vacuum line and try to start it again myself. Seafoam is my friend and should be yours also. Yamaha makes a cleaner also, never tried it, Chevron has a bottled cleaner also, but never tried it either since Seafoam is my friend. Myself I have never had a gummed up fuel system, maybe in part I run my stuff I guess often enough, or I add Seafoam to my gas engine fuel systems from time to time. If you suspect crappy fuel, I might also drain tank and refill with fresh gas/Seafoam before even starting any of the above process. also make sure your battery is fully charged. Now if you can get it to start and wont idle, pilot circuit is no doubt gummed/blocked, if you have already drilled and pulled the cap off the adjuster screw, might consider just backing it out an extra half turn just to give some fuel a new place to get through and allow the Seafoam a chance to do its thing before setting the pilot circuit back in that half turn once things seem normal again. Good Luck on 2 wheels, riding the 4 wheeler this time of season plowing F#$@!!g Snow.... Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "southampton12000" wrote:
> > I have a klr in Mexico that has been sitting with full gas tank since > april. Now bike won't start and seems like there is no gas to carb. > > Is it hard for a mechanically challenged individual to fix the stuck > float valve and is there any simple way to do it step by step. > Thanks > Brian >

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