The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis Force, which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft that is aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to forces that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel is virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike merely accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere these effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational hazard of motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher southern latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica -- are compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to keep the "front" wheel in contact with the road. Hope this helps. Lou Newbie '08 KLR southern Maine, where shaft wheelies are seldom seen>If it really is a joke and driveshaft equipped motorcycles cannot >pull a wheelie, can someone explain to me how Charlie Boorman pulled >several wheelies on his big, fully laden BMW GS on the DVD "Long Way >Round"?
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At 07:28 PM 11/19/2008, Ross Lindberg wrote:
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Hey now, I've done a completely analog wheelie with my ST1100. There's no
trick to getting the beast's front wheel in the air - the challenge is
bringing it back down gently!
Stunta Kevin
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Jud Jones wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "Harry > Seifert" wrote: > > > > An invisible wire and mirrors! > > > > > > While computers and the internet are a powerful tool for the dissemination > of knowledge, > that same power is readily corrupted by charlatans and scammers. Without > Photoshop and > other deceptive devices, the myth that shafties can wheelie would never > have left the starting > gate. > > > -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lou wrote:
Yeah, it's like if you are riding on a merry-go-round and try to throw a softball. What happens?> > At 07:28 PM 11/19/2008, Ross Lindberg wrote: > > >If it really is a joke and driveshaft equipped motorcycles cannot > >pull a wheelie, can someone explain to me how Charlie Boorman pulled > >several wheelies on his big, fully laden BMW GS on the DVD "Long Way > >Round"? > > The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis Force, > which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft that is > aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to forces > that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the > northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher > speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel is > virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the > equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike merely > accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere these > effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational hazard of > motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher southern > latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica -- are > compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to keep > the "front" wheel in contact with the road. > > Hope this helps. >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lou wrote:
Force,> > The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis
is> which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft that
forces> aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to
merely> that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the > northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher > speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel is > virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the > equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike
these> accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere
of> effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational hazard
are> motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher southern > latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica --
keep> compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to
Ahhhh, I knew there was [had to be] a logical reason for not buying a BMW and shipping it to Antartica, and now I now for sure. revmaaatin.> the "front" wheel in contact with the road. > > Hope this helps. > > Lou > Newbie > '08 KLR > southern Maine, where shaft wheelies are seldom seen >![]()
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Why wheelie?
albatross
just wondering
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert"
wrote:
pulled> > An invisible wire and mirrors! > > > bseifert71@... > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ross Lindberg > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: 11/19/2008 4:28:28 PM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: wheelie > > > > If it really is a joke and driveshaft equipped motorcycles cannot > > pull a wheelie, can someone explain to me how Charlie Boorman
Way> > several wheelies on his big, fully laden BMW GS on the DVD "Long
> > Round"? > > > > Ross Lindberg > > Fertile, MN > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@" > > wrote: > > > > > > Its a joke .... long time on the list. > > > > > > Criswell > > > On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Michael Martin wrote: > > > > > > > Ron, > > > > > > > > Some driveshaft bikes can: > > > > http://www.r1-forum.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6468&si=l > > > > > > > > Mike Martin > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > I pulled a nice little wheelie yesterday on a ride out to the > > lake on > > > > > > > > the KLR Just glad I wasn't > > > > on the Connie as driveshaft bikes can't wheelie. Heh! > > > > > > > > Criswell > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > _R_,_._,___ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:
pulled> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lou wrote: > > > > At 07:28 PM 11/19/2008, Ross Lindberg wrote: > > > > >If it really is a joke and driveshaft equipped motorcycles cannot > > >pull a wheelie, can someone explain to me how Charlie Boorman
Way> > >several wheelies on his big, fully laden BMW GS on the DVD "Long
Force,> > >Round"? > > > > The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis
that is> > which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft
forces> > aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to
is> > that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the > > northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher > > speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel
merely> > virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the > > equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike
these> > accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere
of> > effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational hazard
are> > motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher southern > > latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica --
keep> > compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to
throw a softball. What> > the "front" wheel in contact with the road. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Yeah, it's like if you are riding on a merry-go-round and try to
JUd, it is a lot like shooting a .50cal M2B out the door on a helicopter. Some figure it out and others, are just converting bullets to noise. It is an amazing thing to see an aerial gunner that knows what he is doing while engaging a target that is 90degress to the direction of flight. How does he do it? He aims: left (port), left, low,; right (starboard), right, high. Its all quantum physics or was it quantum majik? revmaaatin. who converts jet fuel to noise. I leave the difficult jobs to aerial gunners.> happens? >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr"
wrote:
Why wheelie? To save wear on the front tire. revmaaatin. just answering the obvious> > Why wheelie? > > albatross > just wondering > >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" wrote:
There are a lot of reasons for that, and that's one of them.> > Why wheelie? >
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Bottom posted for politeness
Just say for just a minute that you did order your BMW and shipped it to Antarctica, what oil would you use/recommend??? Harry Seifert bseifert71@...> [Original Message] > From: revmaaatin > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 11/20/2008 6:34:03 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: wheelie > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lou wrote: > > > > The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis > Force, > > which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft that > is > > aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to > forces > > that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the > > northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher > > speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel is > > virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the > > equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike > merely > > accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere > these > > effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational hazard > of > > motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher southern > > latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica -- > are > > compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to > keep > > the "front" wheel in contact with the road. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Lou > > Newbie > > '08 KLR > > southern Maine, where shaft wheelies are seldom seen > >> > Ahhhh, > I knew there was [had to be] a logical reason for not buying a BMW > and shipping it to Antartica, and now I now for sure. > > revmaaatin. >
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert"
wrote:
that> > Bottom posted for politeness > > > [Original Message] > > From: revmaaatin > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: 11/20/2008 6:34:03 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: wheelie > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Lou wrote: > > > > > > The key concept to understand in this process is the Coriolis > > Force, > > > which varies by hemisphere and by latitude. A spinning shaft
is> > is > > > aligned with the direction of the bike's motion is subject to > > forces > > > that simply don't apply to the chain-drive situation. In the > > > northern hemisphere, the shaft rotation (particularly at higher > > > speeds) generates so much downward "pitch" that the front wheel
hazard> > > virtually glued to the pavement. At lower latitudes, near the > > > equator, the pitch forces tend to balance out so that the bike > > merely > > > accelerates somewhat more quickly. In the southern hemisphere > > these > > > effects are reversed and wheelies are a daily occupational
southern> > of > > > motorcycling, to the extent that operators in the higher
it to> > > latitudes -- and in particular on the continent of Antarctica -- > > are > > > compelled to ride their bikes backwards most of the time just to > > keep > > > the "front" wheel in contact with the road. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Lou > > > Newbie > > > '08 KLR > > > southern Maine, where shaft wheelies are seldom seen > > >> > > > Ahhhh, > > I knew there was [had to be] a logical reason for not buying a BMW > > and shipping it to Antartica, and now I now for sure. > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > Just say for just a minute that you did order your BMW and shipped
Crisco?> Antarctica, what oil would you use/recommend??? > > Harry Seifert > bseifert71@... > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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