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boulder_adv_rider
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plastic gas tank and caps

Post by boulder_adv_rider » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:12 pm

Bogdan - Can you tells us more on the metal tube vent you installed? I've since gone to the Acerbis locking cap but even that leaks when you say horizontal for more than a second. My original cap that came with the IMS tank is now missing some rubber on the mushroom seal that helps prevents backflow. But instead of replacing the seal from Acerbis ($4...but min order of $10), I bought the Acerbis locking cap (also bought a one-way, in-line valve in case I didn't like the locking cap). Normal riding condition, the new locking cap is great...no hose. However, in combat I'm not happy with gas leaking from the locking cap after tipping over. So when fall-factor increases I might revert to the old cap and would install this one-way valve (purchased from Fred). However, I've never been comfortable with the fit of the hose into the cap especially when it's under my tank bag. So I'm looking for ways to improve cap connection incorporating this one-way valve. Ultimately, tipping over and leaking gas is dangerous plus bad for the environment. Plus it's soaking my tank bag and the associated fumes are unacceptable.
> I agree since that s what I did. Tank bag users be informed, however,
that
> the tank vents from the top of the cap, dirt bike fashion. I
inserted a
> metal tube that turns and vents horizontally before joining the rubber > line-not brain surgery. > > Bogdan > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Bogdan Swider
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plastic gas tank and caps

Post by Bogdan Swider » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:33 pm

I ll do my best, b_a_r. I don t have pictures and my technical writing and vocabulary is sometimes wanting. I had many of the same experiences you did; my tank bag is still redolent with gas fumes. The concept I came up with is simple but ending up with a finished product was more work than I anticipated. All is built around the standard gas cap and attached tubing that come with the IMS tank. First I drilled out the stem/nipple in the center of the cap that the vent tubing fits around and ended up with a 3/16 ID hole through the center of said gas cap. I procured a piece of metal tubing 3/16 OD about 3 1/2 in length. Basically I had the piece bent so that it was an upside down U shaped that fit into the drilled hole in the center and then fit around so it touched the outer side of the cap and then turned so the last inch went horizontally, parallel with the top of the tank. At that end I had a stepped metal insert about 1 long soldered to the piece of now bent metal tubing. The insert went from 1/4 where it met the metal tubing to 3/16 where it fit into a 3 piece of the rubber like vent tubing that came with the tank. I adhered the bent metal piece to the hole in the cap using Marine Tex, a structural epoxy. and built up this epoxy around it. At the other end I put a small spring clamp over end of the 3 rubber tube over where it covered the insert. I also fashioned a small bracket that fit over the metal tubing where it bent next to the side of the cap and screwed and glued it to the said cap. The piece of 3 rubber tubing was joined to the long piece of tubing that it was cut from with a straight 3/16 plastic insert. This was spring clamped at both sides. This is where I break the vent line to unscrew the cap when I gas up. The long piece of tubing ended up below, close to the shock as before. A word on one way valves: I used to have one in the tank vent line and still do in my carb vent line. I took the tank one out when a lister posted that during a hot sunny day his tank literally took on a drastically different shape. Before that post I thought that the valve would allow air, but not gas, to go in both directions since I could smell fumes. Bogdan, who hopes this wasn t too confusing On 8/21/08 11:12 AM, "boulder_adv_rider" wrote:
> > > > Bogdan - Can you tells us more on the metal tube vent you installed? > I've since gone to the Acerbis locking cap but even that leaks when you > say horizontal for more than a second. > > My original cap that came with the IMS tank is now missing some rubber > on the mushroom seal that helps prevents backflow. But instead of > replacing the seal from Acerbis ($4...but min order of $10), I bought > the Acerbis locking cap (also bought a one-way, in-line valve in case I > didn't like the locking cap). > > Normal riding condition, the new locking cap is great...no hose. > However, in combat I'm not happy with gas leaking from the locking cap > after tipping over. So when fall-factor increases I might revert to > the old cap and would install this one-way valve (purchased from > Fred). However, I've never been comfortable with the fit of the hose > into the cap especially when it's under my tank bag. So I'm looking > for ways to improve cap connection incorporating this one-way valve. > Ultimately, tipping over and leaking gas is dangerous plus bad for the > environment. Plus it's soaking my tank bag and the associated fumes > are unacceptable. > > >> > I agree since that s what I did. Tank bag users be informed, however, > that >> > the tank vents from the top of the cap, dirt bike fashion. I > inserted a >> > metal tube that turns and vents horizontally before joining the rubber >> > line-not brain surgery. >> > >> > Bogdan >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > >
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playing cards in your spokes vs nerf bars

Post by John D. Holmes » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:58 pm

I am super very pleased with the sw motech crash bars (twisted throttle.com) for my 08. Top notch quality. I also got the optional footpegs and have found them to be very useful. No problems with vibration. Nice style. They fit with the stock skid plate. That's my story. JDH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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