bike/accessory shops in michigan (nklr)

[Michael Martin]

--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Larry wrote: From: Larry Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Sounds like the 08 is JUNK I checked the linkage and swingarm on mine and it had been greased. I cleaned that out and repacked it with Honda Moly60. Larry, My Kawasaki manual says to lube with "chassis assembly grease". My Chilton's manual says, "Use a good quality, lithium-base grease to lubricate components requiring grease. Some components require the extreme-pressure qualities of molybdenum dilulfide grease, or the protective qualities of waterproof grease. When these greases are required it is indicated in the procedures throughout the manual. Grease components frequently, as this purges water and grit from the component and extends its life." Then in the rear suspension chapter, the Chilton manual goes on to say, "NOTE In the following procedures, whenever grease is referenced, a molydisulfide or waterproof grease should be used. Kawasaki recommends molydisulfide grease for all linkage bearings, This grease has excellent antiwear characteristics when subjected to extreme pressure. Waterproof grease, which is very durable, has a high tack and is very resistant to washout when subjected to wet conditions. Which grease to use is a preference of the rider and the conditions in which the bike is operated. If the linkage is regularly maintained, either grease will perform well." Note that my manuals are not for the 2008 KLR, but I expect that the same information would apply to your bike. That being said, Pro Honda Moly 60 is a paste, containing 60% molydisulfide. It is intended for near-static joints, such as rear wheel drive splines. In contrast, molydisulfide grease contains about 3% molydisulfide. It is suitable for joints which have more movement. The paste will dry out over time and the suspension bearings will have a shorter life than they would if grease were used. IMHO..... Mike Martin, Louisville, KY

[Larry]

Hi Mike, Very informative post. I must admit that I never looked in the Kawi workshop manual for their recommendations. Being primarily a Honda owner over the years, I simply carried over their suggestion of Moly 45 or 60 in their pro link suspensions. On bikes with no grease fittings on the rear suspensions, I have always cleaned and greased the links and swingarms yearly. So the 60 never got much chance to dry out. Honda also recommends moly60 on drive splines as you suggest. FWIW I use Maxima waterproof grease or Optimol grease on most other areas. Thanks for the info, Larry. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Michael Martin wrote:

> > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Larry wrote: > From: Larry > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Sounds like the 08 is JUNK > > I checked the linkage and swingarm on mine and it had

been greased. I cleaned that out and repacked it with Honda Moly60.

> > Larry, > > My Kawasaki manual says to lube with "chassis assembly grease". My

Chilton's manual says, "Use a good quality, lithium-base grease to lubricate components requiring grease. Some components require the extreme-pressure qualities of molybdenum dilulfide grease, or the protective qualities of waterproof grease. When these greases are required it is indicated in the procedures throughout the manual. Grease components frequently, as this purges water and grit from the component and extends its life."

> > Then in the rear suspension chapter, the Chilton manual goes on to

say, "NOTE In the following procedures, whenever grease is referenced, a molydisulfide or waterproof grease should be used. Kawasaki recommends molydisulfide grease for all linkage bearings, This grease has excellent antiwear characteristics when subjected to extreme pressure. Waterproof grease, which is very durable, has a high tack and is very resistant to washout when subjected to wet conditions. Which grease to use is a preference of the rider and the conditions in which the bike is operated. If the linkage is regularly maintained, either grease will perform well."

> > Note that my manuals are not for the 2008 KLR, but I expect that

the same information would apply to your bike.

> > That being said, Pro Honda Moly 60 is a paste, containing 60%

molydisulfide. It is intended for near-static joints, such as rear wheel drive splines.

> > In contrast, molydisulfide grease contains about 3% molydisulfide.

It is suitable for joints which have more movement.

> > The paste will dry out over time and the suspension bearings will

have a shorter life than they would if grease were used.

> > IMHO..... > > Mike Martin, > Louisville, KY >

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

Grease is good. Mark

[n1rzc]

Actually, grease is good if you use my method. I've been doing it all along with my '00 BRP. I use a refined form of bacon grease that is made simple at home with a mixture of bacon drippings and lye. It lasts well and is biodegradeable. Also, other than very salty, it is edible! E --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > Grease is good. > > Mark >

[Larry]

Up here in the great white north we use something similar as a cold weather colon lubricant (CCL). Works great but gives me a touch of heartburn. Larry.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "n1rzc" wrote: > > Actually, grease is good if you use my method. I've been doing it all > along with my '00 BRP. I use a refined form of bacon grease that is > made simple at home with a mixture of bacon drippings and lye. It > lasts well and is biodegradeable. Also, other than very salty, it is > edible! > > E >

[Horton Oliphant]

Sounds like a recipe for soap to me. Alan written by Johnny Standley and Art Thorsen Do you remember Grandma's Lye Soap, Good for everything in the home, And the secret was in the scrubbing, It wouldn't suds, and wouldn't foam, Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!) For Grandma's Lye Soap, Sing it out, all over the place! For pots and pans, and dirty dishes, And for your hands, And for your face! Little Therman, and Brother Herman, Had an aversion to washing their ears... Grandma scrubbed them with her lye soap, And they haven't heard a word in years! Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!) For Grandma's Lye Soap, Sing it out, all over the place! For pots and pans, and dirty dishes, And for your hands, And for your face! Mrs. O'Malley, out in the valley, Suffered from ulcers, I understand, She swallowed a cake of Grandma's Lye Soap, Has the cleanest ulcers in the land! Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!) For Grandma's Lye Soap, Sing it out, all over the place! For pots and pans, and dirty dishes, And for your hands, And for your face! Alternate Verse: Mrs. O'Malley Down in the valley had a hound, I understand. It swallowed a cake Of Grandma's lye soap. Now it's the cleanest hound in all the land Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!) For Grandma's Lye Soap, Sing it out, all over the place! For pots and pans, and dirty dishes, And for your hands, And for your face! n1rzc wrote:

> Actually, grease is good if you use my method. I've been doing it all > along with my '00 BRP. I use a refined form of bacon grease that is > made simple at home with a mixture of bacon drippings and lye. It > lasts well and is biodegradeable. Also, other than very salty, it is > edible!

[Jake Wilson]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "n1rzc" wrote:

> > Actually, grease is good if you use my method. I've been doing it

all

> along with my '00 BRP. I use a refined form of bacon grease that is > made simple at home with a mixture of bacon drippings and lye. It > lasts well and is biodegradeable. Also, other than very salty, it is > edible! > > E >

~~~What next, add lipitor to the fuel tank?/j/k Hey!, I've got a good recipe to spice up that can of refried beans you've been eating. Add a dollop of bacon grease to it, but leave the lye out =:-) Jake Reddick Fla.

[Ron and Brenda Moorhouse]

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse wrote:

> > > Ditto that! The people at our local Cycle Gear are great. > Just ordered front and rear Kenda's yesterday for $82. > Hey Rev!!!! Did I solve the starwars text??? If not, I still do

not have a Clue!Ron Moorhouse

> Modesto, CA >

Bless you, my son, No more gobbledygook starwars text emanating from the moorhousedeathstar. That's a good thing. revmaaatin.