nklr : torque wrenches, calibration, water density, and miracles

[stevedyer@cox.net]

Anybody heard much about these dirt bikes? 125cc, 90lbs, nearly the power to weight ratio of a CR500. http://www.fxbikes.com/ Steve

[Mike Frey]

I've read all that I could about them, and I would LOVE to have one, but look at those prices....... stevedyer@... wrote:

>Anybody heard much about these dirt bikes? 125cc, 90lbs, nearly the power to weight ratio of a CR500. > >http://www.fxbikes.com/ > >Steve > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

[stevedyer@cox.net]

OOF! You're right! What are they thinking?! From: Mike Frey Date: 2006/02/14 Tue PM 05:55:18 EST To: KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR - FX Bikes I've read all that I could about them, and I would LOVE to have one, but look at those prices....... stevedyer@... wrote:

>Anybody heard much about these dirt bikes? 125cc, 90lbs, nearly the power to weight ratio of a CR500. > >http://www.fxbikes.com/ > >Steve > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

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[ron criswell]

Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when I passed them. Something like this would be even better. One of the things I hate about the KLR is how piggy it is and have to be careful what I get into with it. I can't imagine doing what some do on a Beemer GS. To me light weight is everything off road (or mostly everything). Criswell Mike Frey wrote: I've read all that I could about them, and I would LOVE to have one, but look at those prices....... stevedyer@... wrote:

>Anybody heard much about these dirt bikes? 125cc, 90lbs, nearly the power to weight ratio of a CR500. > >http://www.fxbikes.com/ > >Steve > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

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[stevedyer@cox.net]

My best bud in junior high had one of those Hodakas - a Dirt Squirt I think it was called but I can't remember if it was 100cc or 125cc. He kinda wanted the bigger one called a Combat Wombat, but I can't recall the actual displacement of that one either. It was a rugged little bike and put up with quite a bit of abuse. Only adjustment he had to make was to back out the mixture screw about twice as far as the manual called for, but once he did that it ran like a top. Steve Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when I passed them. Something like this would be even better. One of the things I hate about the KLR is how piggy it is and have to be careful what I get into with it. I can't imagine doing what some do on a Beemer GS. To me light weight is everything off road (or mostly everything). Criswell

[Arden Kysely]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell wrote:

> > Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the

kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when I passed them. And I remember passing a Hodaka 100 during a desert race: flat-out on a dry lakebed, neck and neck, wringing the wee-wee out those little pistons...but I still had fifth gear to go! Click, vrroooo000ommmmm, see-ya! 8~) __Arden

[ron criswell]

Yeah but where I am from, we ride /rode tight treelined trails up and down over small hills. All those ponies and extra gears get nuetralized in that arena. Desert racing ..... well duh, then you can use all that speed. Still I heard Hodakas did O.K. at that too (in their particular class) as they were very reliable. I had a friend with a 360 Yamaha MX (silver and red). Sure he killed me on a drag race but I could stay right with him through the trees and the up and down hills. Long live Hodakas! That gas tank sure was purty. Criswell Arden Kysely wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell wrote:

> > Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the

kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when I passed them. And I remember passing a Hodaka 100 during a desert race: flat-out on a dry lakebed, neck and neck, wringing the wee-wee out those little pistons...but I still had fifth gear to go! Click, vrroooo000ommmmm, see-ya! 8~) __Arden Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ron criswell]

I beat the crap out of mine for 8 years. Fun reliable little bike. I even tropied on it a coupla times. Criswell stevedyer@... wrote: My best bud in junior high had one of those Hodakas - a Dirt Squirt I think it was called but I can't remember if it was 100cc or 125cc. He kinda wanted the bigger one called a Combat Wombat, but I can't recall the actual displacement of that one either. It was a rugged little bike and put up with quite a bit of abuse. Only adjustment he had to make was to back out the mixture screw about twice as far as the manual called for, but once he did that it ran like a top. Steve Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when I passed them. Something like this would be even better. One of the things I hate about the KLR is how piggy it is and have to be careful what I get into with it. I can't imagine doing what some do on a Beemer GS. To me light weight is everything off road (or mostly everything). Criswell Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Frey]

>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron Criswell >wrote: > > >> Jeez I'd love to have something like that. Kinda reminds me of the >> >> >kind of thing I had when I had my 100cc Hodaka. Light as hell and go >anywhere in the boonies. I sure pissed off a lot bigger machines when >I passed them. > > >And I remember passing a Hodaka 100 during a desert race: flat-out on >a dry lakebed, neck and neck, wringing the wee-wee out those little >pistons...but I still had fifth gear to go! Click, vrroooo000ommmmm, >see-ya! 8~) > >__Arden >

...And I remember Hodaka 100s passing me in the rocky, woodsy technical stuff - regardless of what I was riding. The slower the going was, the better I was - but I was far from the best. By the mid '70s, alas, the Hodaka was history, and I had moved from Kawasaki to Ossa to KTM. Mike

[revmaaatin]

Hi Mike, I like your phrase: "A PINT is A POUND, the world around! " (~for Water) and had never heard the phrase until some cowboy told it to me here in South Dakota. What is stranger, I have been in the Naval Services, as a Naval Aviator to include: Midshipman-2d Lt USMC(R) to Captain, Navy LT to Lieutenant Commander (over 26 years) and never heard the phrase....but what I do know, is that water collects in the bottom of the fuel tank and is not friendly at all to turbine or pistons engines, especially out over the ocean! What I do know of interest, from all that time at sea, is that salt water of course, is denser that freshwater, and the water from the DEAD SEA is the densest of all. While on a helicopter deployment that took us to Israel, one of the other Navy Lieutenants filled an empty, one-liter water bottle with water from the Dead Sea. Using a calibrated elbow, (elbow not certified by Harbor Freight or the gnomes at Sears,) it was easily 1/3 heavier than a regular liter bottle of water. It gave you a rather odd sensation when you expected the liter to weigh about 2# and it was noticeably heavier... On that particular day, we did not swim in the Dead Sea, as it was February (1987) and a bit nippy, but others were swimming. It is said, that it is impossible for a human to sink, because of the water's density and the human's buoyancy. Most of the folks actually were floating fully, with 1/3 of their body out of the water. Some were nearly sitting in the water rather than floating. In the arena of debate, there is something that is known as the full circle argument-hypothesis, which is what is happening here. While the list, in its endeavor to speak to the calibration of torque wrenches, its equivalents, it has taken a turn to examine the weight of water, to a point that the water in some locations is indeed heavier than others. The full question pertains to the location of the water, which begs the question/historical significance of Jesus walking on the water; was walking on the water really a miracle, was the desity of the water a factor, and what constitutes a miracle. Etc. The cool part of the discussion/correlation is that water is not actually the same around the world, (albeit the exception is rather small, i.e. the Dead Sea, Great Salt Lake, Salton Sea, and perhaps some others I have never visited), but in this world of high price sophistication (here comes the miracle) Jesus did not require the water of the Sea of Galilee, (fresh water lake, that actually flows into the Dead Sea, via the Jordan River) to be denser than normal to walk on it. Nor do you have to "be dense" and spend close to $10K to have a durable dual sport bike, (F-650, and others, way out of my price leagues). Conversely, you do not have to go any further than DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com to chat/ enjoy the wisdom or ~6000 of your (new) closest friends. Through the list, I have found new friends, conversed easily with over 100 of them privately, and have had my bike upgraded at tec days beyond my wildest dreams. I have subsequently rode places (GDR, Black Hills of South Dakota, Appalachian Mts, lonely prairie South Dakota hills) all because of the miracle of sharing, while experiencing the calibrated humor (and the in-frequent rages of frustration) mixed judiciously with technical expertise. It is with great amusement that I have the occasional opportunity to read the quip-s (times 2) of the indiscreet cross dresser that actually admits to riding a Honda Gold Wing or Harley; they collectively claim they are holding their KLR in reserve for nastier occasions. So much information and so many friends for "free." This list should make Consumer's Digest, "Best deal in the MC industry." All things considered, in my book, considering the value/service of the KLR, the List, the characters I have met here, while mixing all these together, all that comes close to being a miracle. revmaaatin. Methodist Circuit Rider in the Sioux Empire. ps. another amusing torque comparison, (loosely)taken form a 1930's Steerman aircraft, tec manual: tighten the prop nut to 1200 ft/# by hanging a 200# man on a 6 foot beam attatched to the prop nut)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hagen" wrote: > > Jeff, > > "That's the same as hanging about 3 quarts (1 quart = 32 oz., right?) of > oil off a 1 foot bar. It's just not very much. " > > My dad's old saying (gone some 30 years now) was "A PINT is A POUND, the world around! " (~for Water) So a quart is about 2 lbs. > > 32 Oz. is FLUID Oz., Nice system we got huh? > > Mike > Crestline, Ca. > eBay Red - A18 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >