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				will gilmore
 - Posts: 114
 - Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:58 am
 
new generation of klr's
I'm getting more comments from people who say they plan to get a 
 motorcycle in order to save money on gas. That increased interest, 
 spurred-on by ever-rising gas prices, makes me think Kawa and others 
 could be on the verge of a whole new generation of motorcycle 
 enthusiasts. What's more, they probably won't to be attracted to 
 large machines. It's difficult to justify wanting a motorcyle in 
 order to save money and then spend $15-20,000 on a Harley or Beamer. 
 Given this scenerio the market for mid-sized dual-sports could 
 surge. Especially if they're marketed as a kind of cross between a 
 mountain bike and two-wheeled SUV. In other words, our KLR cult 
 might get crowded in years to come -- forcing Kawa, because of 
 increased competition, to produce an even more maiantenence free, 
 better performing motorcycle. 
 
 Like the VW Bug that was eventually changed into the Rabbit there 
 will someday be a new version of the KLR. What will it look like and 
 when will it appear in the U.S.? Will it be the new European version 
 or will there be still another U.S. design?
 
 Just excersizing my brain for the days work ahead. Reactions?
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				Arden Kysely
 - Posts: 1578
 - Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2001 8:18 am
 
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Scooters. That's what people will buy in droves if gas prices force 
 them out of their cars. There will be an increase in motorcycle 
 riders, but most people migrating to two wheels will feel much more 
 comfortable on a friendly, easy to ride scooter. Don't know why more 
 folks don't ride them already. Europe is packed with them, and they 
 ride them rain or shine. Scooters are about the most sensible vehicle 
 on the road for personal transportation in an urban area--great 
 mileage, some weather protection, storage, easy to operate. They 
 might not be the ticket for 50 mile commutes (though some of the big 
 ones could work), but you can certainly slice and dice the surface 
 street traffic. 
 
 __Arden DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "will gilmore"  
 wrote:
 
			
			
									
									
						others> > I'm getting more comments from people who say they plan to get a > motorcycle in order to save money on gas. That increased interest, > spurred-on by ever-rising gas prices, makes me think Kawa and
Beamer.> could be on the verge of a whole new generation of motorcycle > enthusiasts. What's more, they probably won't to be attracted to > large machines. It's difficult to justify wanting a motorcyle in > order to save money and then spend $15-20,000 on a Harley or
and> Given this scenerio the market for mid-sized dual-sports could > surge. Especially if they're marketed as a kind of cross between a > mountain bike and two-wheeled SUV. In other words, our KLR cult > might get crowded in years to come -- forcing Kawa, because of > increased competition, to produce an even more maiantenence free, > better performing motorcycle. > > Like the VW Bug that was eventually changed into the Rabbit there > will someday be a new version of the KLR. What will it look like
version> when will it appear in the U.S.? Will it be the new European
> or will there be still another U.S. design? > > Just excersizing my brain for the days work ahead. Reactions?
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				WILLAM GILMORE
 - Posts: 108
 - Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:30 pm
 
new generation of klr's
Arden - I agree with everything you've said in principal. However, I believe there are cultural differences between Europe and the U.S that will prevent the scooter's popularity in certain large and important market segments. I don't think the average owner of a F-350 Ford pick-up, for example,  will feel drawn to a scooter for secondary transportation. The same goes for males under 30  who aren't in college. Generally, I predict that scooters will attract mostly young females, college students and active retiree's living in small towns. 
  
 Also, it's imortant to consider that our traffic laws and highway system are designed just for trucks and automobiles. The only other form of transport that has access, in terms of speed, are motorcycles. 
 
 Arden Kysely  wrote:
 Scooters. That's what people will buy in droves if gas prices force 
 them out of their cars. There will be an increase in motorcycle 
 riders, but most people migrating to two wheels will feel much more 
 comfortable on a friendly, easy to ride scooter. Don't know why more 
 folks don't ride them already. Europe is packed with them, and they 
 ride them rain or shine. Scooters are about the most sensible vehicle 
 on the road for personal transportation in an urban area--great 
 mileage, some weather protection, storage, easy to operate. They 
 might not be the ticket for 50 mile commutes (though some of the big 
 ones could work), but you can certainly slice and dice the surface 
 street traffic. 
 
 __Arden DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "will gilmore" 
 wrote:
 
			
			
									
									
						others> > I'm getting more comments from people who say they plan to get a > motorcycle in order to save money on gas. That increased interest, > spurred-on by ever-rising gas prices, makes me think Kawa and
Beamer.> could be on the verge of a whole new generation of motorcycle > enthusiasts. What's more, they probably won't to be attracted to > large machines. It's difficult to justify wanting a motorcyle in > order to save money and then spend $15-20,000 on a Harley or
and> Given this scenerio the market for mid-sized dual-sports could > surge. Especially if they're marketed as a kind of cross between a > mountain bike and two-wheeled SUV. In other words, our KLR cult > might get crowded in years to come -- forcing Kawa, because of > increased competition, to produce an even more maiantenence free, > better performing motorcycle. > > Like the VW Bug that was eventually changed into the Rabbit there > will someday be a new version of the KLR. What will it look like
version> when will it appear in the U.S.? Will it be the new European
Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> or will there be still another U.S. design? > > Just excersizing my brain for the days work ahead. Reactions?
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				Michael Silverstein
 
new generation of klr's
I think the biggest problem scooters have is their name, not
 performance. Any modern large scooter like the Suzuki Burgman or Honda
 Silver Wing would probably be more at home on the highway than your
 average Sportster. The biggest mistake manufacturers have made is to
 classify these things as scooters instead of the motorcycles that they
 are. If people just entering motorcycling had sense instead of vanity
 they'd be spending their money on bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing
 instead of Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with fringes
 and t-shirts and all the other Harley 'lifestyle' garbage that does
 nothing to enhance the riding experience or get you from point A to
 point B).
 
 Mike A18
 
 
			
			
									
									
						-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: 8/22/2005> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WILLAM GILMORE > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:15 AM > To: Arden Kysely; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > Arden - I agree with everything you've said in principal. > However, I believe there are cultural differences between > Europe and the U.S that will prevent the scooter's popularity > in certain large and important market segments. I don't think > the average owner of a F-350 Ford pick-up, for example, will > feel drawn to a scooter for secondary transportation. The > same goes for males under 30 who aren't in college. > Generally, I predict that scooters will attract mostly young > females, college students and active retiree's living in small towns. > > Also, it's imortant to consider that our traffic laws and > highway system are designed just for trucks and automobiles. > The only other form of transport that has access, in terms of > speed, are motorcycles. > > Arden Kysely wrote: > Scooters. That's what people will buy in droves if gas prices force > them out of their cars. There will be an increase in motorcycle > riders, but most people migrating to two wheels will feel much more > comfortable on a friendly, easy to ride scooter. Don't know why more > folks don't ride them already. Europe is packed with them, and they > ride them rain or shine. Scooters are about the most sensible vehicle > on the road for personal transportation in an urban area--great > mileage, some weather protection, storage, easy to operate. They > might not be the ticket for 50 mile commutes (though some of the big > ones could work), but you can certainly slice and dice the surface > street traffic. > > __Arden > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "will gilmore" > wrote: > > > > I'm getting more comments from people who say they plan to get a > > motorcycle in order to save money on gas. That increased interest, > > spurred-on by ever-rising gas prices, makes me think Kawa and > others > > could be on the verge of a whole new generation of motorcycle > > enthusiasts. What's more, they probably won't to be attracted to > > large machines. It's difficult to justify wanting a motorcyle in > > order to save money and then spend $15-20,000 on a Harley or > Beamer. > > Given this scenerio the market for mid-sized dual-sports could > > surge. Especially if they're marketed as a kind of cross between a > > mountain bike and two-wheeled SUV. In other words, our KLR cult > > might get crowded in years to come -- forcing Kawa, because of > > increased competition, to produce an even more maiantenence free, > > better performing motorcycle. > > > > Like the VW Bug that was eventually changed into the Rabbit there > > will someday be a new version of the KLR. What will it look like > and > > when will it appear in the U.S.? Will it be the new European > version > > or will there be still another U.S. design? > > > > Just excersizing my brain for the days work ahead. Reactions? > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release > Date: 8/22/2005 > >
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				Eric Lee Green
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 - Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:47 am
 
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WILLAM GILMORE wrote:
 
 
			
			
									
									
						Well, larger scooters (the 500cc ones) probably could handle the freeway. On the other hand, affordable transportation is *all* they are. You don't take a scooter out to the twisties on the weekends. _E>Also, it's imortant to consider that our traffic laws and highway system are designed just for trucks and automobiles. The only other form of transport that has access, in terms of speed, are motorcycles. > >
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				scott quillen
 - Posts: 154
 - Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:17 am
 
new generation of klr's
That's quite an observation. Perhaps those "people
 just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want and it
 just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what they
 SHOULD want...
 
 GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do THEIRS...
 
 Scott
 
 --- Michael Silverstein 
 wrote:
 
 ... If people just entering motorcycling had sense
 instead of vanity they'd be spending their money on
 bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of
 Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with
 fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley
 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance the
 riding experience or get you from point A to point B).
 
			
			
									
									
						____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > Mike A18
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				Michael Silverstein
 
new generation of klr's
I don't dispute that these people KNOW what they want. Lots of people
 KNOW a whole lot of things that aren't necessarily true. Since the
 number of HD bikes on the road is in extreme disproportion to their
 capability and value there must be some other factor at work. 
 
 I've ridden Harleys and while I found them underpowered, poorly
 engineered lumps, some aspects were certainly compelling. If HD bikes
 weren't so overpriced I'd probably have one myself for a beater bike
 right next to a Ural. 
 
 I do however suspect that what drives most purchases of these relatively
 incapable and way overpriced bikes and all the accompanying chrome,
 leather fringes, t-shirts, mugs, etc. is marketing hype and fitting in
 with the crowd rather than by researching what would be best for one's
 needs - unless buying into marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd
 is one's primary need. This is certainly tolerable in a 'live and let
 live' sort of way but I sure hope these people don't carry that same
 pattern of poor reasoning into the voting booth.
 
 Mike A18
 
 
			
			
									
									
						-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/2005> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of scott quillen > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:21 PM > To: Michael Silverstein; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > That's quite an observation. Perhaps those "people > just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want and it > just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what they > SHOULD want... > > GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do THEIRS... > > Scott > > --- Michael Silverstein > wrote: > > ... If people just entering motorcycling had sense > instead of vanity they'd be spending their money on > bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of > Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with > fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley > 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance the > riding experience or get you from point A to point B). > > > > Mike A18 > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650> _data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > Date: 8/23/2005 > >
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				Eugene W Zortea Jr
 - Posts: 19
 - Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:41 am
 
new generation of klr's
Brother you got to lighten up. It's just a means of transportation. For most
 just a weekend hobby. I had a Harley for 14 years and loved it.
 You do know they hold they're monetary value better than any Jap or English
 bike made.
 Don't tell me a V-Rod is under powered.
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On
 Behalf Of Michael Silverstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:01 PM
 To: 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's
 
 
 I don't dispute that these people KNOW what they want. Lots of people
 KNOW a whole lot of things that aren't necessarily true. Since the
 number of HD bikes on the road is in extreme disproportion to their
 capability and value there must be some other factor at work.
 
 I've ridden Harleys and while I found them underpowered, poorly
 engineered lumps, some aspects were certainly compelling. If HD bikes
 weren't so overpriced I'd probably have one myself for a beater bike
 right next to a Ural.
 
 I do however suspect that what drives most purchases of these relatively
 incapable and way overpriced bikes and all the accompanying chrome,
 leather fringes, t-shirts, mugs, etc. is marketing hype and fitting in
 with the crowd rather than by researching what would be best for one's
 needs - unless buying into marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd
 is one's primary need. This is certainly tolerable in a 'live and let
 live' sort of way but I sure hope these people don't carry that same
 pattern of poor reasoning into the voting booth.
 
 Mike A18
 
 
			
			
									
									
						-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/2005 Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of scott quillen > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:21 PM > To: Michael Silverstein; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > That's quite an observation. Perhaps those "people > just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want and it > just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what they > SHOULD want... > > GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do THEIRS... > > Scott > > --- Michael Silverstein > wrote: > > ... If people just entering motorcycling had sense > instead of vanity they'd be spending their money on > bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of > Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with > fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley > 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance the > riding experience or get you from point A to point B). > > > > Mike A18 > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650> _data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > Date: 8/23/2005 > >
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				Eugene W Zortea Jr
 - Posts: 19
 - Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:41 am
 
new generation of klr's
By the way if the people that made your bike could make the money that
 Harley makes on marketing all the do dads and clothing don't you think they
 would???? I'll answer that......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On
 Behalf Of Eugene W Zortea Jr
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:15 AM
 To: Michael Silverstein; 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's
 
 
 Brother you got to lighten up. It's just a means of transportation. For most
 just a weekend hobby. I had a Harley for 14 years and loved it.
 You do know they hold they're monetary value better than any Jap or English
 bike made.
 Don't tell me a V-Rod is under powered.
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On
 Behalf Of Michael Silverstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:01 PM
 To: 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's
 
 
 I don't dispute that these people KNOW what they want. Lots of people
 KNOW a whole lot of things that aren't necessarily true. Since the
 number of HD bikes on the road is in extreme disproportion to their
 capability and value there must be some other factor at work.
 
 I've ridden Harleys and while I found them underpowered, poorly
 engineered lumps, some aspects were certainly compelling. If HD bikes
 weren't so overpriced I'd probably have one myself for a beater bike
 right next to a Ural.
 
 I do however suspect that what drives most purchases of these relatively
 incapable and way overpriced bikes and all the accompanying chrome,
 leather fringes, t-shirts, mugs, etc. is marketing hype and fitting in
 with the crowd rather than by researching what would be best for one's
 needs - unless buying into marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd
 is one's primary need. This is certainly tolerable in a 'live and let
 live' sort of way but I sure hope these people don't carry that same
 pattern of poor reasoning into the voting booth.
 
 Mike A18
 
 
			
			
									
									
						-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/2005 Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of scott quillen > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:21 PM > To: Michael Silverstein; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > That's quite an observation. Perhaps those "people > just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want and it > just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what they > SHOULD want... > > GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do THEIRS... > > Scott > > --- Michael Silverstein > wrote: > > ... If people just entering motorcycling had sense > instead of vanity they'd be spending their money on > bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of > Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with > fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley > 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance the > riding experience or get you from point A to point B). > > > > Mike A18 > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650> _data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > Date: 8/23/2005 > >
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				Michael Silverstein
 
new generation of klr's
I agree the V-Rod is a whole other animal and shouldn't be lumped in
 with the rest of the HD line in this train of discussion.
 
 As to lightening up, we all have our pet peeves and one of mine is
 flawed thinking (don't even get me started on leaf blowers).
 
 While many people (including a number of people I know and respect and
 probably yourself included) own HD bikes for justifiable reasons (they
 appreciate the bike for what it is because of its look and feel, sound,
 etc.) and are willing to may extra for them, many own them because they
 have allowed their wills to be twisted by 'lifestyle' marketing and
 crowd mentality. Historical events have shown that this pattern of
 thinking is clearly not in the best interest of humanity as a whole.
 
 Mike A18
 
 
			
			
									
									
						-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/2005> -----Original Message----- > From: Eugene W Zortea Jr [mailto:so.ez@...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:15 AM > To: Michael Silverstein; 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > Brother you got to lighten up. It's just a means of > transportation. For most just a weekend hobby. I had a Harley > for 14 years and loved it. You do know they hold they're > monetary value better than any Jap or English bike made. > Don't tell me a V-Rod is under powered. > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Silverstein > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:01 PM > To: 'scott quillen'; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > I don't dispute that these people KNOW what they want. Lots > of people KNOW a whole lot of things that aren't necessarily > true. Since the number of HD bikes on the road is in extreme > disproportion to their capability and value there must be > some other factor at work. > > I've ridden Harleys and while I found them underpowered, > poorly engineered lumps, some aspects were certainly > compelling. If HD bikes weren't so overpriced I'd probably > have one myself for a beater bike right next to a Ural. > > I do however suspect that what drives most purchases of these > relatively incapable and way overpriced bikes and all the > accompanying chrome, leather fringes, t-shirts, mugs, etc. is > marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd rather than by > researching what would be best for one's needs - unless > buying into marketing hype and fitting in with the crowd is > one's primary need. This is certainly tolerable in a 'live > and let live' sort of way but I sure hope these people don't > carry that same pattern of poor reasoning into the voting booth. > > Mike A18 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of scott quillen > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:21 PM > > To: Michael Silverstein; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New generation of KLR's > > > > > > That's quite an observation. Perhaps those "people > > just entering motorcycling" KNOW what they want and it > > just doesn't happen to fit your opinion of what they > > SHOULD want... > > > > GEEZ...YOU do YOUR thing and LET THEM do THEIRS... > > > > Scott > > > > --- Michael Silverstein > > wrote: > > > > ... If people just entering motorcycling had sense > > instead of vanity they'd be spending their money on > > bikes like the Burgman or Silver Wing instead of > > Sportsters (and extra chrome and leather jackets with > > fringes and t-shirts and all the other Harley > > 'lifestyle' garbage that does nothing to enhance the > > riding experience or get you from point A to point B). > > > > > > Mike A18 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650> > > _data_search.html List > > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > > Date: 8/23/2005 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > Date: 8/23/2005 > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List > sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release > Date: 8/23/2005 > >
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