nklr where's the cheap kendas??

[Bill Emmack]

I'm not a vendor -- I ordered the wrong size and didn't ship it back in time. Just posted on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8303214525 Joe Rocket Revolution 'Ballistic' touring jacket Brand New, never worn. Size: Medium The jacket is Black. I got the wrong size. Probably perfect for someone between 5'6"-5'9" or so. This is a great jacket -- I eventually got the right size and I love it. Rock-Tex 600" outer shell. Removable dual density armor in the shoulders, elbows and also a back pad. "Rock-Tex 1050" overlay on shoulders and elbows. Removable and insulated full sleeve liner. Zippered vents in the biceps with a zippered exhaust vent in the rear. Reflective safety stripe. Fleece collar. 4 outside pockets, 1 inside pocket. Rear storage pouch. Rear zipper for attachment to pants. Adjustable waist. Sleeve size adjusters. If someone here wants it for $100 + shipping (~$15), let me know and I'll cancel the auction. Thanks! Bill SF, A9 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[klr9992001]

--I just bought the same jacket from Newenough $85.00. Great jacket. Dan - In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Emmack wrote:

> I'm not a vendor -- I ordered the wrong size and didn't ship it back in > time. > > Just posted on eBay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8303214525 > > Joe Rocket Revolution 'Ballistic' touring jacket Brand New, never worn. > > Size: Medium The jacket is Black. I got the wrong size. Probably > perfect for someone between 5'6"-5'9" or so. This is a great jacket -- > I eventually got the right size and I love it. > > Rock-Tex 600" outer shell. Removable dual density armor in the > shoulders, elbows and also a back pad. "Rock-Tex 1050" overlay on > shoulders and elbows. Removable and insulated full sleeve liner. > Zippered vents in the biceps with a zippered exhaust vent in the rear. > Reflective safety stripe. Fleece collar. 4 outside pockets, 1 inside > pocket. Rear storage pouch. Rear zipper for attachment to pants. > Adjustable waist. Sleeve size adjusters. > > If someone here wants it for $100 + shipping (~$15), let me know and > I'll cancel the auction. > > Thanks! > > Bill > SF, A9 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

[Rob Lefebvre]

I am on the Newenough site but do not see a link for the Ballistic Jacket for $85.00??? Rob -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of klr9992001 Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:35 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Joe Rocket Ballistic Jacket -- Size M --I just bought the same jacket from Newenough $85.00. Great jacket. Dan - In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Emmack wrote:

> I'm not a vendor -- I ordered the wrong size and didn't ship it back

in

> time. > > Just posted on eBay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8303214525 > > Joe Rocket Revolution 'Ballistic' touring jacket Brand New, never

worn.

> > Size: Medium The jacket is Black. I got the wrong size. Probably > perfect for someone between 5'6"-5'9" or so. This is a great jacket -- > I eventually got the right size and I love it. > > Rock-Tex 600" outer shell. Removable dual density armor in the > shoulders, elbows and also a back pad. "Rock-Tex 1050" overlay on > shoulders and elbows. Removable and insulated full sleeve liner. > Zippered vents in the biceps with a zippered exhaust vent in the rear. > Reflective safety stripe. Fleece collar. 4 outside pockets, 1 inside > pocket. Rear storage pouch. Rear zipper for attachment to pants. > Adjustable waist. Sleeve size adjusters. > > If someone here wants it for $100 + shipping (~$15), let me know and > I'll cancel the auction. > > Thanks! > > Bill > SF, A9 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Bill Emmack]

It looks like they're sold out. And yeah, when I posted my jacket yesterday I forgot that NewEnough had lowered their price on this jacket after I bought it. I paid $99 (or was it $119 -- darn that short-term memory loss...). Anyway, they had it for $85, I think, shortly after I bought it, which is probably why they're out now. So...I'll let this one go for $80 plus shipping. BE SF, A9 BTW, NewEnough does have the J.R. Meteor 4.0 Ballistic for $99, which is just a different cut version of the Revolution I have for sale. It's what I ended up getting, and a great jacket -- though the pockets are too hard to use conveniently. The Revolution's much better for touring/D.S. riding. http://newenough.com/product_group_closeout_textile.htm --- Rob Lefebvre wrote:

> > I am on the Newenough site but do not see a link for the Ballistic > Jacket for $85.00??? > > > Rob

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[Bill Emmack]

It looks like they're sold out. And yeah, when I posted my jacket yesterday I forgot that NewEnough had lowered their price on this jacket after I bought it. I paid $99 (or was it $119 -- darn that short-term memory loss...). Anyway, they had it for $85, I think, shortly after I bought it, which is probably why they're out now. So...I'll let this one go for $80 plus shipping. BE SF, A9 BTW, NewEnough does have the J.R. Meteor 4.0 Ballistic for $99, which is just a different cut version of the Revolution I have for sale. It's what I ended up getting, and a great jacket -- though the pockets are too hard to use conveniently. The Revolution's much better for touring/D.S. riding. http://newenough.com/product_group_closeout_textile.htm --- Rob Lefebvre wrote:

> > I am on the Newenough site but do not see a link for the Ballistic > Jacket for $85.00??? > > > Rob

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[Eric L. Green]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Kyle wrote:

> Foriegn crude prices are currently not on the rise. They are in fact

Hmm, they hit $50 a barrel and haven't gone down. They're expected to average $55/barrel this year, $66/barrel next year, and hit $100 per barrel sometime in the next ten years, if Chinese demand for oil keeps growing. (Darn Chinese, aren't content with being a third world nation and want to be a modern industrialized nation, oil usage and all). (Note to sarcasm-impaired -- get a sense of humor).

> down as of last week. Fuel refining is increasing in cost here in the > US due to government mandate. My company build these lovely Gas and > Diesel Desulfurization Units for the petro-chem giants in the S and SW > US at about $30M a pop. Another excuse to raise gas prices is all.

$30M a pop is nothing compared to the massive profits these guys are pulling in right now. Exxon-Mobil, for example, is currently making about $200 million per DAY in profits, and is running out of places to stash the extra cash (they're currently sitting on a $25 billion dollar cash horde). The desulfurization units are needed in order to do like Europe and move to diesel for most of our cars. Diesels get almost twice the fuel economy of gasoline engines, and will run on a variety of fuels from JP/1 to vegetable oil. The problem is that the particulates in that belching black smoke produced by high-sulphur diesel fuels have been proven to cause cancer. The moment that belching black smoke crosses my property line and trespasses on my property you are violating my property rights and that's why we create governments, to protect property rights. You have a perfect right to belch as much smoke as you'd like if you keep it on your property and off of mine, as far as I'm concerned. I am glad that our government has decided to protect my property rights by keeping diesel engines from belching their black smoke onto my property by requiring them to use desulfurized oil. Europe's diesel has been desulfurized for decades now, so it's not as if it's new technology. (Yes, true Libertarians are "environmentalists", but only to the extent that they truly support property rights -- the moment you justify spewing YOUR pollution onto MY property, sorry, you're not a Libertarian).

> Just like paying more for gas that they put less additive in back in > the 70's. Rubber grows on trees, maybe some of these 3rd world folks > like Kenda and Kings use natural rubber? Doubt it.

Taiwan is *NOT* a third world country. I am in the computer industry. Approximately 25% of the parts in my company's new computer comes from Taiwan, including the motherboard and the motherboard chipset. Other major parts come from Germany, South Korea, and Japan. The only "American" components are the hard drives and the metal case. Anyhow, Taiwan is as modern a country as any, believe it or not civilization DOES exist outside the borders of the United States. Regarding "natural" rubber, I'm not sure that what tires are made of nowdays should even be called "rubber". Yes, it looks vaguely rubber-like, but it's more a rubbery resin reinforced with carbon-black and various mystery fibers and powders with high-strength reinforcing cords holding everything together. Tire companies protect their recipes with a passion, but it's clear that what tires are made of is about as closely related to the stuff that comes out of rubber trees as humans are related to chimpanzees -- i.e., a vague similarity, maybe some distant ancestry, but I doubt a chimpanzee is going to Yale anytime soon (please, save your Bush jokes and similarly, a natural rubber tire would completely suck compared to modern tire "rubber".

> My KT-966's are indeed Chinese (discovered post-purchase). Front tires

You might go to the Kings Tire web site and read their company history sometime, you might have found that out before .

> is decent on road, sucks off. Rear is great, 50/50. Both are made for > warmer climate so they don't stick in turns well at 60F and lower, > front especially (scary). My brand new kenda front, here in my hand > does not say Taiwan on it, but wouldn't be surprising to know that was > where it was made. How about cheng-shing? China?

Kenda recently (within the past ten years) opened a tire factory on the mainland, and also has a tire factory in another low-wage area (check their corporate web site, I think Malaysia?). So your Kendas could very well have been made in Taiwan -- or China, or Malaysia, or etc. They're a lot like American companies, wages have gotten high because Taiwan has become such a developed nation, so they've exported jobs overseas to lower-wage countries. Anyhow, regarding your KT-966, I agree with your unimpressive review of the KT-966 front tire. It has a tendency to cup too.

> www.mxsales.com has the kendas for cheap. Arrowhead Motorsports has > them in stock for a few dollars more. KT-966's were $108/set to the > door from motorcycle-superstore.com (screwed me on shipping). If you > are an aggressive rider on any surface, neither of these brands are > not for you, IMO. If you are the average KLR guy, they'll be cool for

I'm not sure if there's one tire that is the Universal Solvent of tires, that rocks on both pavement and in the dirt. The Kenda 270's certainly don't rock on pavement, no matter how great they are on dirt. The KT-966's are great on pavement as long as it's warm and dry, but only mediocre on the dirt. Dunlop D606's (a really serious knobby looking thing) seem to get good reviews from a lot of people here as a dirt-oriented tire that also handles decent on the pavement, on the other hand for pavement use they howl and have short life. Right now I'm running Kenda 761's, a street-oriented tire, because this is the rainy season in California and they function adequately in the wet (they don't have enormous traction in the wet but are predictable and don't scare the **** out of you, unlike the KT-966). When I make my annual trek to the Sierras in the dry season I'll probably put my KT-966's back on for bashing through those "fire roads" that more resemble goat paths, although they're looking a bit peaked (a bit of cupping on the front -- I'll turn it around and run it "backwards" to even that out -- and the back is worn about 1/3rd down in the center, though those knobs are so deep that there's still a lot of knob left).

> you. For the most part, you get what you pay for. My little commie > pinko REAR tire rocks for me. The front was worth every penny, which > is not a whole lot! name brands like Continental DOT knobs, or Avon > Gripster types stick, but they cost.

What you get from the big dollar tires is better handling in poor conditions, in general, because they have better "rubber" (though as I noted, the substance that tires are made of nowdays bears little resemblance to actual REAL rubber). But big bucks does not mean better. It depends on where and how you're riding. Paying big bucks just for the sake of paying big bucks is, uhm, dumb? -E