loctite & grease

[William Whalen]

I have the Happy Trails Skid Plate and Highway Pegs, best invest I have made. You won't believe the added comfort the Highway Pegs give you until you use them Bill Whlalen Central Florida 92 KLR-650 A6 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

[ct_bob@juno.com]

Anyone in the Southern NH area have the Happy Trails saddle bag mounts? I would like to see a set before I buy them. CT Bob

[myprimita]

Hello all, In April I bought a used KLR650 and joined this group. Over the past 2 months I'v made 30 or 40 mods to the bike from your suggestions and tommorrow I'm taking off (from York PA) for the Yucatan penninsula and points beyond. I'm 62 years old and retired. So, thanks to you all! AND, dealing with "Happy Trails" was really great. Their products are absolutely top notch as are their business manners. Excellent products delivered on time and at the agreed price. Saludos muchachos, you do it right! Thanks again to all, Charlie Seymour

[Mike Frey]

Wait! Charlie! I am right over in Lancaster, I'll go with ya! Oh, wait.... I'm not retired.......Yet. Maybe next time. Sounds like something I've always wanted to do. Keep us posted on your trip (as you can) and good luck! Mike myprimita wrote:

>Hello all, >In April I bought a used KLR650 and joined this group. Over the past >2 months I'v made 30 or 40 mods to the bike from your suggestions and >tommorrow I'm taking off (from York PA) for the Yucatan penninsula >and points beyond. I'm 62 years old and retired. So, thanks to you >all! > >AND, dealing with "Happy Trails" was really great. Their products >are absolutely top notch as are their business manners. Excellent >products delivered on time and at the agreed price. Saludos >muchachos, you do it right! > >Thanks again to all, >Charlie Seymour > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Don Bittle]

Woah Charlie! Late notice but I think I can get my stuff together by tomorrow morning Serusly (see I speek Mexican), I suggest that we all post our ramblings ahead of time, assuming that we want company. Might be that others could join you. This would be a dream trip for me but I think the wify would insist on taking the Voyager. don a17, voyager xll

----- Original Message ----- From: "myprimita" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:52 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Happy Trails > Hello all, > tommorrow I'm taking off (from York PA) for the Yucatan penninsula > and points beyond. I'm 62 years old and retired. So, thanks to you >

[Mike Torst]

I know that after nearly 30 years I am still not representing a mainstream solution, but I use silicone sealer as a sealer/lube during assembly. We used the TRUE measure of tension - bolt or stud stretch. Based on the quality of the thread surfaces, we measured stretch at 5% to near 20% reduced levels of torque over clean, but bare, bolt/stud nut levels. ARP studs and bolts were the least affected, and the worst torque errors to stretch occurred w/ lower grade metals tapped for bolts which were machined with greater abrasive factors. Perhaps the active machinists on this list can elaborate. Loctite was used as well in our tests - a great lube until it sets, so maybe lubricity is not the only issue, but the use of lower quality fasteners is. So many issues to be pursued - beats another oil thread (grin). Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: takes2serious [mailto:rshultz@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:41 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Loctite & Grease --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Norm Keller wrote:

> Greasing the threaded portion of the fastener will change the

friction between the threads so the torque specifications would need to be changed if this is practiced....In short: Don't grease the threads. The grease will reduce the friction required to turn the fastener. Since torque is used to over come friction while applying tension to the fastner, any reduction of thread friction will (at the same torque) increase tension. This may strip threads, stretch or break the fastener, crush the tensioned part or other nasties. Follow the practice recommended by the manufacturer or there is not use in bothering to use the recommended torques.

> > HIH > > Norm >

Don't you have the same issue when using a product like loctite? Since it's put on wet, doesn't it also reduce friction during tightening? I would be interested to know how much an antiseize compound reduces torque requirements. I have read some articles which seemed to indicate that it was actually helpful in normalizing torque readings, which admittedly is a little different issue. Isn't antiseize recommended for items like spark plugs, where torque is importan? It seems to me that it would have value in preventing galling of dissimilar metals and with same-metal galling as sometimes occurs in stainless steel fasteners. Interesting subject to me since I'm just a beginner.