k&s turn signals vs. oem

[guymanbro]

I got the chance to crash test my new Kilimanjaro II on Wednesday night. Still got all my skin. 2 thumbs up. Kinda pissed that I put holes in it so soon but better my jacket than my skin. Details: I was following Devon on a local road, rain had started about 45 minutes earlier. As we approached a curve, I saw Devon's brake light flash and his rear wheel break a little loose (IRC GP1 I think). As I applied my brakes my rear end got really loose (MT21) and then the front started to slide... I straightend up and let off the brakes enough to regain control but was now headed wide (off the road). No biggie I thought, I've got a dual sport. Back in complet control of the bike I head back towards the road. Unfortunately between the rain and the dark and the excitement, I didn't notice that there was a pretty eroded section of dirt right in front of the curb (leaving 6-8" of curb to get over) until it was too late. The curb was not at right angles (read - it was at the WRONG angle) with my front wheel. The front end bounced up and deflected sideways...When it came down the bike just spit me onto the tarmac and spun out. Lost a turn signal and bent the Moose shifter but no other damage to bike. Major lesson learned: DO NOT PUT YOUR DISC LOCK IN YOUR THIGH POCKET!!! I've got a nice bruise where that pocket used to be. Question: Anybody got suggestions on patching my Kili? There's only a small hole under the left elbow and forearm. Don't want to send it away for that. (still kept me dry on the way home!!!) dat brooklyn bum

[Rob Kuder]

How fast where you going when you started your body slide? Rob. -----Original Message----- From: guymanbro To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:11 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Crash tested my Kili 2

> I got the chance to crash test my new Kilimanjaro II on Wednesday >night. Still got all my skin. 2 thumbs up. Kinda pissed that I put >holes in it so soon but better my jacket than my skin. >

[guymanbro]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Rob Kuder" wrote:

> How fast where you going when you started your body slide? > > Rob. >

I'm only guessing cuz looking at the speedo was not high on my priority list...but I'd estimate about 35-40mph. dat brooklyn bum

[Rob Kuder]

So at 40mph you are burning holes in a Kili jacket?? I am trying to decide on a jacket. This doesn't impress me. What the hell is going to happen at 65 mph? But they say leather is sooo uncomfortable for all weather commuting... Any comments? Saving my skin is a high priority. I was in a burn unit once for two months with REALLY bad road rash and I don't look forward to doin' that again. And I'm not even a motorcyclist yet. 55 days 'til my MSF course and an affordable insurance premiums. Rob.

> >I'm only guessing cuz looking at the speedo was not high on my >priority list...but I'd estimate about 35-40mph. > >dat brooklyn bum > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[guymanbro]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Rob Kuder" wrote:

> > So at 40mph you are burning holes in a Kili jacket?? > I am trying to decide on a jacket. This doesn't impress me. > What the hell is going to happen at 65 mph?

Burn bigger holes I guess. The jacket did it's job and I'm only guessing at the speed (You got any idea how fast we were going into that turn Devon?). The hole was on the lighter weight (330 denier I think) portion of the jacket. The heavier, reinforced elbows held up just fine. It's also a tiny hole and only through the outer layer (looks more like a rip than a hole). dat brooklyn bum (FYI the Darien is 500 denier all over, I believe, so you might want to get that for multiple crashability)

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Rob Kuder" wrote:

> > So at 40mph you are burning holes in a Kili jacket?? > I am trying to decide on a jacket.

Kili jacket...I have one....it's like having levi's on, might as well be naked. I usually wear leather, weather permitting.

[Devon Jarvis]

I rode street bikes for 10 years before I got the KLR. Leathers, once they are broken in, are comfortable but they are not all-weather riding gear. You will need a rain suit to go over the leathers. I have taken more than a couple slides in leathers. They are really the ideal material for crashing in. Not so ideal for offroading, or anything involving exertion. Devon Rob Kuder wrote:

> So at 40mph you are burning holes in a Kili jacket?? > I am trying to decide on a jacket. This doesn't impress me. > What the hell is going to happen at 65 mph? > But they say leather is sooo uncomfortable > for all weather commuting... > Any comments? > > Saving my skin is a high priority. > I was in a burn unit once for two months > with REALLY bad road rash and > I don't look forward to doin' that again. > And I'm not even a motorcyclist yet. > 55 days 'til my MSF course and an affordable insurance premiums. > > Rob. > > > > >I'm only guessing cuz looking at the speedo was not high on my > >priority list...but I'd estimate about 35-40mph. > > > >dat brooklyn bum > > > > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at > >http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Be part of the Adventure! > > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at > >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Devon Jarvis]

I've taken that curve at 50-60 mph when it's dry, but the pavement was pretty slick. 35-40 is a good guess, maybe a little less. The pants pocket was not a fair test, because of the disc lock, but the sleeve getting holed on wet pavement wasn't too encouraging. If you want protection that will stand up to multiple crashes, you have to be prepared to shoulder some weight and bulk. You remember what happened the first day we visited the Brooklyn Desert, and I was wearing leathers? The light nylon snowboarding gear has been good for winter dual-sporting, though I always figured it was good for a little less than one street crash. Finding out it isn't very waterproof wasn't good. Devon guymanbro wrote:

> Burn bigger holes I guess. The jacket did it's job and I'm only > guessing at the speed (You got any idea how fast we were going into > that turn Devon?).

[cactus_reese]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "guymanbro" wrote:

> FYI, replaced my broken turn signal with a K&S aftermarket signal... > > The stalk on the stocker is rubbery and pliable. The K&S is hard > plastic and brittle. I re-used the stock stalk on the K&S body. > > dat brooklyn bum

I know what your talking about with respect to brittle stalks because my bike had those on when I bought it used. I orderd some more after market ones from Dual Star when I broke the left rear brittle one. The ones they sent were rubbery like the stock ones but half the cost. The difference was that the threaded shaft is barely long enough to attach them, but it was long enough. -Bryan