purity of the ride

[G. Meyer]

With all the talk of Marxism, California, hoof & mouth disease, power crisis . . . What's better for the KLR? Mobil 1 MX4T 10w-40 "or" Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w-50 Anybody ever try Mobil Delvac 1 5w-40 100% Synthetic high-performance diesel engine oil in the gallon jug? http://www.mobil.com/mobil_lubes/onhighway/products_services/delvac1/index.html Anybody have independent lab results on how they compare? No I don't work for Mobil Oil, live in California, conserve electricity or subscribe to commie-pinko ideals. Glen A13 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Susan Moorhead]

Glen, Having quite a reasonable knowledge of lubricants and applications, I would have do go with the 10w40 for better cold start protection. Oil flow at cold start will be quite a bit quicker as compared to the 20w50. According to the gurus at Mobil Oil, up to 75% of all engine wear occurs at start-up, when there is little oil around the cams, the low pour point of synthetics and the resulting protection at cold start, are one of the major advantages of using synthetic oils. Just my .02 worth Marshall in Afton, Ok '95 KLXC3 (Mobil 1 15w50)

----- Original Message ----- From: G. Meyer To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Possible Oil Thread "NKLR" > What's better for the KLR? > > Mobil 1 MX4T 10w-40 > "or" > Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w-50 > > Anybody ever try Mobil Delvac 1 5w-40 100% Synthetic high-performance diesel engine oil in the gallon jug? http://www.mobil.com/mobil_lubes/onhighway/products_services/delvac1/index.h tml > > Glen > A13 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

[Susan Moorhead]

Glen, Go to any large truck stop, you should find Mobil 1 5w40 (gallons only as far as I know). That is what I used in my Chevy 3/4 ton truck w/ the turbo diesel engine. If for some reason the truck stop does not carry it, look under "oil suppliers, wholesale" in the yellow pages for a Mobil Oil distributor, they will either carry it, or worst case, can order it for you. Hope this helps. Marshall in Afton, Ok '95 KLXC3

----- Original Message ----- From: G. Meyer To: Susan Moorhead Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Possible Oil Thread "NKLR" > Marshall, > > Thanks for the input. I'm still using Valvoline blue and I may change when > the mileage hits 3 to 4k. > > The Mobil Delvac 1 5w-40 diesel might be a option but I may have a tough > time finding it. > > Glen > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com

[Brad Davis]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Susan Moorhead" wrote:

> Glen, > > Go to any large truck stop, you should find Mobil 1 5w40 (gallons

only as

> far as I know). That is what I used in my Chevy 3/4 ton truck w/

the turbo

> diesel engine. If for some reason the truck stop does not carry it,

look

> under "oil suppliers, wholesale" in the yellow pages for a Mobil Oil > distributor, they will either carry it, or worst case, can order it

for you.

> Hope this helps. > > Marshall in Afton, Ok > '95 KLXC3

My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is 15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too. Brad

[thesquasher@hotmail.com]

Mobil 1 (5w-40) is a full synthetic oil. About $18.00 a gallon. The 15w-40 for $6.00 a gallon is regular oil.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" wrote: > > My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I > can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is > 15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too. > Brad

[Brad Davis]

yep, that's a big "10-4" good buddy!

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., thesquasher@h... wrote: > Mobil 1 (5w-40) is a full synthetic oil. About $18.00 a gallon. The > 15w-40 for $6.00 a gallon is regular oil. > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" wrote: > > > > My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I > > can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is > > 15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too. > > Brad

[richardm@gowinnt.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" wrote:

>My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I >can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is >15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too.

I tried Delvac 1300 Super in 15W-40 and my tranny got a little "catchy" when downshifting. The 20W-50 car oil shifts better. I don't like the expense of Mobil 1 but I may have to run it just to get the gearbox to behave. RM

[G. Meyer]

RM, I'm currently using Valvoline Premium Blue Diesel in the gallon jug and I've add about 2 ounces of STP Red on my last 2 oil changes, can't find the black bottle of STP anywhere, and my tyranny has shifted really well considering the stories I've heard on the list so far. Might be my KLR tranny but I'm sure the ZDDP boast can't hurt. The 20-50 auto oils apparently by nature have more of the ZDDP additive already in the oil. The only real bonus I can see with going with 100% synthetic is the better cold start-up protection and it's ability to tolerate the short trips I take. Probably 30% of my riding. Glen, A13 Exact Sound Productions Phone # (208) 773-9895 E-mail: ExactSound@...

----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Possible Oil Thread "NKLR" > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" wrote: > > >My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I > >can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is > >15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too. > > I tried Delvac 1300 Super in 15W-40 and my tranny got a > little "catchy" when downshifting. The 20W-50 car oil shifts > better. I don't like the expense of Mobil 1 but I may have to run it > just to get the gearbox to behave. > > RM > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com

[Greg Paul]

I would bet that most of the lubricants discussed on here are great for most riding cases. I am going to keep using Mobil 1 because I used it in my Yamaha 490 in the desert and in temperatures that were wholly unnatural and sustained high speed sand wash riding. I prayed for at least a short strech of flat so you could take your feet off the pegs and spread your legs to cool your hiney. Also pretty lazy about changing the juices. That little machine "never" had a problem. Of course it may not have been manufactured on a Monday or Friday either. )) Greg in Dallas

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "G. Meyer" wrote: > RM, > > I'm currently using Valvoline Premium Blue Diesel in the gallon jug and I've > add about 2 ounces of STP Red on my last 2 oil changes, can't find the black > bottle of STP anywhere, and my tyranny has shifted really well considering > the stories I've heard on the list so far. Might be my KLR tranny but I'm > sure the ZDDP boast can't hurt. The 20-50 auto oils apparently by nature > have more of the ZDDP additive already in the oil. > > The only real bonus I can see with going with 100% synthetic is the better > cold start-up protection and it's ability to tolerate the short trips I > take. Probably 30% of my riding. > > Glen, A13 > > Exact Sound Productions > Phone # (208) 773-9895 E-mail: ExactSound@h... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:23 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Possible Oil Thread "NKLR" > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brad Davis" wrote: > > > > >My local WalMart has Delvac, Rotella T and some other brand that I > > >can't think of in 1 gallon containers for about $6. The weight is > > >15w40 not 5w40. Also, my local Auto Parts store carries it too. > > > > I tried Delvac 1300 Super in 15W-40 and my tranny got a > > little "catchy" when downshifting. The 20W-50 car oil shifts > > better. I don't like the expense of Mobil 1 but I may have to run it > > just to get the gearbox to behave. > > > > RM > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@s... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com

[Toby 'Slide' Lampson]

There is no way one can overstate the validity to these points Andrus...........kudos. Especially valuable in my mind are points 1,2,3,4,6,8. This is really wise rider information..........priceless, worth countless miles, or counseling fees........ Slide out Andrus Chesley wrote:

> 1. No maps. > I do maps to marks areas to guide other people to where I have > been. > > 2. Backroads only. > The way to see America > > 3. Camping or privately-owned restaurants and motels prefered . > Meet the > finest people at Mom & Pop Motels / Cafes / etc > > 4. No time limit. > Depends on the Time / Distance thing we have to live > with when working for a living still. > > 5. Wherever a car can go a motorcycle can go. > Not necessary, I go to some > summits for overnite camping or to just see what be there and only a 4 Wheel > Drive could follow lots of these roads. > > 6. Talk to the locals when you have a chance. > A must.. you learn so much > about the local area with a smiling face and inquiring mind and show lots of > respect and praise for the area. > > 7. go to bed early enough to wake up for the sunrise. > The most beautiful > part of the day is watching the sunrise in many parts of the country. > > 8. stop when you want to, go when you want to. > Definitely listen to your > mind and body. > > A few that I have found benificial. > > 9. Keep a quite bike > as many people have commented on my bike being quite > and not like "That Trash" that came thu here a few hours ago on those noisy > dirt bikes. Get more information from them if they take a liking to you. > > 10. Try to keep a neat appearance > This also helps with public relations. > People in the back country are funny folk when it comes to first impression. > Andy Chesley > Jennings, La. > > > I like the rules put forward by Pacheco in his Purity of the Ride > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/