[dsn_klr650] nklr trip report 01 [from istvan] (prince george,

[Fred Hink]

[b]Sick 'em ARNE!![/b] [b][/b]  [b]Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options to have you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred  (I like Spam for lunch)[/b] [b][/b] 

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] concept@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:25 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit CONSUMER VALUE !!         ~  $100.FREE GIFT IF YOU JOIN TODAY !!! ~

[Jim & Shannon Morehead]

HI Arne, I got this stupid thing too. I wonder why we've suddenly come to the attention of the Spammers. So, I'll as you to, as Fred so eloquently put it, SICK 'EM. Thanks, Jim

----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit > CONSUMER VALUE !! > > ~ $100.FREE GIFT IF YOU JOIN TODAY !!! ~ > > This FREE GIFT (Valued at $100.) can be used towards the purchase of > any Item on TargetBarter.... >

[Shepard,Brian]

Please don't take this the wrong way. I have been a Systems Programmer/Administrator for almost 20 years and spam is nothing new. Its been going on way before the Internet as we know it now. I used to deal with it a lot way back in the Eighties (remember BitNet anyone?). What puzzles me is how enraged people get about spam now. Sometimes I wonder if people get angry because it's fashionable. Somebody sees what they think is a computer pro getting angry about spam so they get angry when they're really not angry. They want people to think they're cool because they get angry about spam. There is this little known secret in the IT community. Its called DELETE. Its really cool. You just delete a piece of mail you don't want to read.   I'm more concerned about people "protecting me" from spam than people spamming me. Think about it. This is a First Amendment issue. I'd rather choose for myself weather or not I want to read a piece of mail. Now I know that the intentions of the list management is sincere and I'm not asking you to NOT block spam. I just think people need to think more about the issues. Its very simple to delete. You can't delete something that's not there. FREEDOM!   -Brian Shepard  A13  

[quote] -----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@...] [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:43 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit [b]Sick 'em ARNE!![/b] [b][/b]  [b]Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options to have you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred  (I like Spam for lunch)[/b] [b][/b]  ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] concept@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:25 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit CONSUMER VALUE !!         ~  $100.FREE GIFT IF YOU JOIN TODAY !!! ~

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[Mark Wilson]

  Find out who the spammers are, and delete them!!! That is pretty simple.   MotorMark

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] shepard@... [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... ; DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit Please don't take this the wrong way. I have been a Systems Programmer/Administrator for almost 20 years and spam is nothing new. Its been going on way before the Internet as we know it now. I used to deal with it a lot way back in the Eighties (remember BitNet anyone?). What puzzles me is how enraged people get about spam now. Sometimes I wonder if people get angry because it's fashionable. Somebody sees what they think is a computer pro getting angry about spam so they get angry when they're really not angry. They want people to think they're cool because they get angry about spam. There is this little known secret in the IT community. Its called DELETE. Its really cool. You just delete a piece of mail you don't want to read.   I'm more concerned about people "protecting me" from spam than people spamming me. Think about it. This is a First Amendment issue. I'd rather choose for myself weather or not I want to read a piece of mail. Now I know that the intentions of the list management is sincere and I'm not asking you to NOT block spam. I just think people need to think more about the issues. Its very simple to delete. You can't delete something that's not there. FREEDOM!   -Brian Shepard  A13   [quote] -----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@...] [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:43 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit [b]Sick 'em ARNE!![/b] [b][/b]  [b]Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options to have you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred  (I like Spam for lunch)[/b] [b][/b] 

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[racing43rd@aol.com]

Brian I couldn't agree more. Censorship is one of the most insidious forms of mind control that exists, you don't even know it's happening. TV sets, radios etc have switches to turn them off and knobs to change the stations, we do not need anyone controlling what we see or listen to. Arne you do a great job, this is by far the most informative list I belong to, but spam really is a pretty limited problem, I think I've seen 3 or 4 in the 5 months I've been a subscriber. Just my 2 cents but I feel better for geting it said. Ed Windsor Oh

[Shepard,Brian]

Right on, and I just want to also make clear that Arne is a great guy who does a great job managing a great list. Its people like Arne who volunteer their precious time to keep this great list running PERFECTLY who deserve a round of applause. Well done Arne & whoever else helps out with managing this list. Thanks. Sometimes I go off on a rant, but I'm learning to contain it. -Brian Shepard A13 -----Original Message----- From: racing43rd@... [mailto:racing43rd@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:45 PM To: shepard@...; moabmc@...; DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit Brian I couldn't agree more. Censorship is one of the most insidious forms of mind control that exists, you don't even know it's happening. TV sets, radios etc have switches to turn them off and knobs to change the stations, we do not need anyone controlling what we see or listen to. Arne you do a great job, this is by far the most informative list I belong to, but spam really is a pretty limited problem, I think I've seen 3 or 4 in the 5 months I've been a subscriber. Just my 2 cents but I feel better for geting it said. Ed Windsor Oh Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Jim & Shannon Morehead]

Dear People Bothered by my report of Spam, I guess it's nice that some of you have had vast experience with Spam on e-mail systems. As a novice in the e-mail groups, it seemed appropriate to let the system administrator know when I receive unrelated and unwanted messages. As for the First Amendment comment, please give me a major break!!! I hope those of you who subscribe to that position are called every night at dinnertime and bedtime by a telemarketer for something you don't want. Jim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory D. Pink" To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com>; Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] RE: $250 Line Of Credit > > >Please don't take this the wrong way. I have been a Systems > >Programmer/Administrator for almost 20 years and spam is nothing new. Its > >been going on way before the Internet as we know it now. I used to deal with > >it a lot way back in the Eighties (remember BitNet anyone?). What puzzles me > >is how enraged people get about spam now. Sometimes I wonder if people get > >angry because it's fashionable. Somebody sees what they think is a computer > >pro getting angry about spam so they get angry when they're really not > >angry. They want people to think they're cool because they get angry about > >spam. There is this little known secret in the IT community. Its called > >DELETE. Its really cool. You just delete a piece of mail you don't want to > >read. > > > The delete key is a fine solution if it weren't for the volume of email > that comes across my machine. After dealing with several lists related to > my profession and an additional number of motorcycling lists, I don't have > the time or desire to wade through frivolous posts that offer me a $250 > line of credit. From the subject line it appeared that a dealer had a > special going on. > > > Greg Pink - Tampa, FL > www.pinkman.org > gpink@... > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

[racing43rd@aol.com]

Jim Completely different context, completely different situation. But you knew that, didn't you ? It's the difference between someone barging into your home, or knocking on the door. Ed Windsor Oh

[Arne]

The first guy lost his own Email address after I got done with him.  I've now reported this one to Egroups.  The  problem with manually approving new members is that once approved, what's to stop them from doing what these last two have done?  Nothing unfortunately...   Cheers,   Arne

[quote] -----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@...] [b]Sent:[/b] August 16, 2000 11:43 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit [b]Sick 'em ARNE!![/b] [b][/b]  [b]Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options to have you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list.[/b] [b][/b]  [b]Fred  (I like Spam for lunch)[/b] [b][/b]  ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] concept@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:25 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit CONSUMER VALUE !!         ~  $100.FREE GIFT IF YOU JOIN TODAY !!! ~

Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com [/quote]

[Arne]

Subject: Fw: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit HI Arne, I got this stupid thing too. I wonder why we've suddenly come to the attention of the Spammers. So, I'll as you to, as Fred so eloquently put it, SICK 'EM. Thanks, Jim _______ Good question... I don't know either. The list is pretty big so I guess it's an attractive target. If we report all occurrences to Egroups (they have an anti-spam link at the bottom of their main page) let's hope thay can deal with this stuff. Arne