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Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:49 am
by banjomey2@aol.com
Hi chaps,
just a short question: does the fuel pipe, that runs from the front to the
petrol-tank, is mounted inside or outside to the chassis-rail?
Thanks for help
Peter "Banjo" Meyer
TC 9027, 1949
Morgan +4, 1965
TR 3A, 1959
Rilye TT Sprite Special, 1935
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AW: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:58 am
by Paroor
Just one answer, Out side the rail from the bottom of the tank.
Madhu
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Hi chaps,
just a short question: does the fuel pipe, that runs from the front to the
petrol-tank, is mounted inside or outside to the chassis-rail?
Thanks for help
Peter "Banjo" Meyer
Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:16 am
by LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
Dear Banjo;
May I suggest you put an inline fuel
filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side for easy
access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
Tally Ho!
Thom Collins
Manasota Key, Fl
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:30 am
by Peter Roberts
Thom,
Too right the gas is a mess. Filled up at a country station last Fall and
got about six miles. Engine quit. After many vexing moments, I opened the
bonnet and noticed that my fuel filter was black. The filter is the glass
tube type and should have been clear.
Opened the filter and discovered it was filled with black silt. Cleaned it
out and started up again. Everything seemed OK until about six miles
later..... Limped back to the gas station. Tight conversation later they
emptied the gas tank. Filthy with silt.
Abject conversation later they poured clean gas into a container as I
watched and filled me up. If I had not mounted the filter in the engine
compartment, I wonder how long it would have taken me to find the problem.
Lesson learned, only fill up at high volume stations. And mount your filter
where you can see it.
_Peter
TC0604
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:24 pm
by Dean Jensen
Hi Banjo
I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you
have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the
filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to
push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock,
or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers
Dean
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Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question
Dear Banjo;
May I suggest you put an inline fuel
filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side
for easy
access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
Tally Ho!
Thom Collins
Manasota Key, Fl
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:27 pm
by Dean Jensen
Hi Banjo
I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you
have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the
filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to
push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock,
or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers
Dean
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Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question
Dear Banjo;
May I suggest you put an inline fuel
filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side
for easy
access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
Tally Ho!
Thom Collins
Manasota Key, Fl
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:29 pm
by LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com
Thanks Dean;
Will watch out for that. So far it has been running OK,
by some good grace. Today it is only 85 degress. The 90,s in June should give
me an idea of where I am at.
Tally Ho!
Thom
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:45 pm
by Terry Sanders
I have a fuel filter on the TA in line with the fuel pump and have had no problem with it in years....of course I live in the highest gas price area of the U.S. and that must mean we have very clean petrol!!
Terry
Dean Jensen djensen@accessus.net> wrote:
Hi Banjo
I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you
have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the
filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to
push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock,
or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers
Dean
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Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question
Dear Banjo;
May I suggest you put an inline fuel
filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side
for easy
access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
Tally Ho!
Thom Collins
Manasota Key, Fl
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:00 pm
by 1939mgtb
Dean is correct. With only about 2 psi output, the SU pump really isn't
much good at sucking. If you have anything trapped in the filter, and it is
located before the pump, you may have trouble.
At only 2 psi, you might not have a vapor lock in the inlet side simply
becuase the drop in pressure on that side won't flash vaporize the fuel.
BUT you may have a lean condition at higher RPM, and that can cause
expensive problems......
Best regards,
Ray
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> I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you
> have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the
> filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to
> push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock,
> or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers
> Dean
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> Dear Banjo;
> May I suggest you put an inline fuel
> filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side
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> access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
> Tally Ho!
> Thom Collins
> Manasota Key, Fl
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Re: Fuel pipe question
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:56 pm
by Peter Cole
Guys,
We seem to getting confused here. The fuel pumps fitted to the TA,B,C,D
cars are very good at sucking. They suck petrol all the way from the
petrol tank to the front of the car, and can do this dry, without even
being primed. However they aren't very good at pushing. That's why
they are mounted above the carbs.
On the other hand the pump fitted to the TF, and later cars, that are
mounted at the rear aren't at all good at sucking. That's why they are
flooded with petrol by gravity. These pumps are good at pushing, hence
can push the petrol all the way to the front of the car and then raise
it to the level of the carbs.
This is the reason that you can't swap pumps between earlier and later cars.
Peter Cole.
1939mgtb wrote:
>Dean is correct. With only about 2 psi output, the SU pump really isn't
>much good at sucking. If you have anything trapped in the filter, and it is
>located before the pump, you may have trouble.
>At only 2 psi, you might not have a vapor lock in the inlet side simply
>becuase the drop in pressure on that side won't flash vaporize the fuel.
>BUT you may have a lean condition at higher RPM, and that can cause
>expensive problems......
>Best regards,
>Ray
>"There are no easy answers in this case m'lud."
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>>Hi Banjo
>>I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you
>>have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the
>>filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to
>>push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock,
>>or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers
>>Dean
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>>Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question
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>>Dear Banjo;
>> May I suggest you put an inline fuel
>>filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side
>>for easy
>>access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today.
>>Tally Ho!
>>Thom Collins
>>Manasota Key, Fl
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