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TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:50 pm
by jeffrey townsend
Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:35 pm
by Clive Sherriff
Attachments :Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
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Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:56 pm
by jeffrey townsend
Hello Clive,
Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.
Regards
Jeff
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On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
Clive
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
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Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:28 am
by jeffrey townsend
Thanks Clive and others. That s very helpful
Jeff
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On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms.
Clive
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive,
Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.
Regards
Jeff
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On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
Clive
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
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Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:36 am
by Clive Sherriff
Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms.
Clive
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. Regards Jeff
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On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
Clive
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
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[u][/u]
Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:37 am
by jeffrey townsend
Hello Clive,
One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier.
I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes.
Regards
Jeff
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On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms.
Clive
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive,
Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.
Regards
Jeff
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
Clive
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
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[u][/u]
Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:53 am
by Clive Sherriff
Jeff, you actually have all the data you need already. Our TB chassis are in fact modified TA chassis and still have the original boltholes for the TA Box ! You will have to position the TC Bracket on the TA in the same place as it it mounted on the TB to give the clearances required.
Simples
CliveOxford, UK
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 12:17, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive, One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier. I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes. Regards Jeff
Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms.
Clive
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. Regards Jeff
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,
The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA
MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~
Clive
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend
jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Hi All,
I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: TABC steering column/chassis bracket
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:40 am
by Ian Linton
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Jeff, You may have already found this in TTT2
http://ttypes.org/ttt2/fitting-an-xpaw-engine-in-a-ta which shows the type of modified steering bracket needed to avoid modifying the chassis. Regards to all,
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[b]Subject: [/b]Re: [mg-tabc] TABC steering column/chassis bracket Jeff, you actually have all the data you need already. Our TB chassis are in fact modified TA chassis and still have the original boltholes for the TA Box ! You will have to position the TC Bracket on the TA in the same place as it it mounted on the TB to give the clearances required. Simples CliveOxford, UK On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 12:17, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Clive, One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier. I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes. Regards Jeff Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms. Clive On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. Regards Jeff Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:Jeff, The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~ Clive
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I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK
TB0489
Sent from my iPhone
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