Brake Drums

[rolf schmidt]

Thank you very much to all listers for the informations and hints about the brake drums Happy MotorinG Rolf - TC1558

[Ron Benson]

Hi Carl, I don't think that apart from the Alfin type drums there are any available in the UK. Bob Gruneau seems to the best ones for the T Type, but become expensive due to cost of shipping and import duties. I personally have modified a pair of Datsun 240Z radially finned drums for the front of the TB, look the part as well(very Maserati)

----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Fritz To: Ron Benson Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Brake drums Ron, Several years ago, when I was searching for new Drums for my TC, the folks at NTG Services offered me a set of cast iron drums which they represented as appearing identical to the original steel TC drums. As I recall, the price was slightly below the alfin drums. You might want to talk with them re. your project. As far as I'm concerned, I would never use steel drums if cast iron ones were available!!! I chose the Alfins, in case you were wondering. Regards, Carl Fritz TC 6756 , VA 2009 Gainesville, Florida email: carlmgtc@hotmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John van den Boorn]

I think C&C-parts in Baarlo (the Netherlands) can also deliver this drums. The owner of the company which is specialised in brake-parts has always a stand at Bieulieu and Silverstone.

>From: "Ron Benson" ron@benson67.fsnet.co.uk> >To: "Carl Fritz" carlmgtc@hotmail.com> >CC: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Brake drums >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:22:55 -0000 > > >Hi Carl, >I don't think that apart from the Alfin type drums there are any available >in the UK. Bob Gruneau seems to the best ones for the T Type, but become >expensive due to cost of shipping and import duties. I personally have >modified a pair of Datsun 240Z radially finned drums for the front of the >TB, look the part as well(very Maserati) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl Fritz > To: Ron Benson > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:28 AM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Brake drums > > > Ron, > Several years ago, when I was searching for new Drums for my TC, the >folks at NTG Services offered me a set of cast iron drums which they >represented as appearing identical to the original steel TC drums. As I >recall, the price was slightly below the alfin drums. > You might want to talk with them re. your project. As far as I'm >concerned, I would never use steel drums if cast iron ones were >available!!! > I chose the Alfins, in case you were wondering. > Regards, > Carl Fritz > TC 6756 , VA 2009 > Gainesville, Florida > email: carlmgtc@hotmail.com > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

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[mark.sellick@ukonline.co.uk]

Hi All, I'm certain this subject has already been done to death, but my memory is failing me. I know that cast iron Datsun brake drums can be made to fit our cars. Can the erudite among us say from which model Datsun they come, and what if any modifications are necessary? Are there any other alternatives? Many thanks, Mark TC1459 TA1392 ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

[mark.sellick@ukonline.co.uk]

Hi, This is interesting news! Are the new drums going to be cast iron, or will they be pressed steel like the originals??? Any idea of cost yet? Regards, Mark TC1459 TA1392 Quoting Bradford bradford@moss-europe.co.uk>:

> HI ALL, MOSS EUROPE IS CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF REMANUFACTURING TC > BRAKE DRUMS . THEY SHOULD BE READY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. > HOPE THIS HELPS! > REGARDS > > -----Original Message----- > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of mark.sellick@ukonline.co.uk > Sent: 23 February 2006 09:59 > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [mg-tabc] Brake Drums > > Hi All, > I'm certain this subject has already been done to death, but my memory > is > failing me. > I know that cast iron Datsun brake drums can be made to fit our cars. > Can the > erudite among us say from which model Datsun they come, and what if any > modifications are necessary? Are there any other alternatives? > Many thanks, > Mark > TC1459 > TA1392 > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

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[Bob Grunau]

Mark, I think the answer to your question is rear drums from the Datsun 240Z. These drums need to be re-drilled for the TC bolt circle and also some machining ir required to make them fit the TC hub and back plate ( I'm not sure exactly what is required ). Other alternatives? Sure, I make alfin drums for the TA/TC, TD/TF and MGA 1500. These drums bolt straight on to the intended cars with no modifications. The alfins have a cast iron liner which has dovetails on the outer circumference to ensure no possibiliuty of the liner slipping in the drum. Installation is easy, straight forward and a great looking drum that improves the brakes due to the better co-efficient of friction of the cast iron liner and the greater rigidity of the heat disipating circumferential multi-fins on the drums. Regards, Bob Grunau. Hi All, I'm certain this subject has already been done to death, but my memory is failing me. I know that cast iron Datsun brake drums can be made to fit our cars. Can the erudite among us say from which model Datsun they come, and what if any modifications are necessary? Are there any other alternatives? Many thanks, Mark TC1459 TA1392

[candahill@worldnet.att.net]

Mark, The drums are the finned aluminum drums from the Datsun 240Z. They do require machining to fit an MG. An additional down side is that they also fit Morgans and they are a very popular upgrade for that car. As a result they tend to be scarce. I understand new blank drums are available, but considering the machining required, probably the drums available from Bob Grunau and others made specifically for the T may be a better alternative. Regards, Charles Hill -------------- Original message from mark.sellick@ukonline.co.uk: --------------

> Hi All, > I'm certain this subject has already been done to death, but my memory is > failing me. > I know that cast iron Datsun brake drums can be made to fit our cars. Can the > erudite among us say from which model Datsun they come, and what if any > modifications are necessary? Are there any other alternatives? > Many thanks, > Mark > TC1459 > TA1392 > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

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[Bob Leinen]

Mark: I have the Alfin brake drums on my TC and I love them! Highly effective braking, trouble free and good looking! Bob Leinen TC 5838

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Grunau" grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> To: mark.sellick@ukonline.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Brake Drums > Mark, > I think the answer to your question is rear drums from the Datsun 240Z. > These drums need to be re-drilled for the TC bolt circle and also some > machining ir required to make them fit the TC hub and back plate ( I'm not > sure exactly what is required ). > Other alternatives? Sure, I make alfin drums for the TA/TC, TD/TF and MGA > 1500. These drums bolt straight on to the intended cars with no > modifications. The alfins have a cast iron liner which has dovetails on > the > outer circumference to ensure no possibiliuty of the liner slipping in the > drum. Installation is easy, straight forward and a great looking drum > that > improves the brakes due to the better co-efficient of friction of the cast > iron liner and the greater rigidity of the heat disipating circumferential > multi-fins on the drums. > Regards, Bob Grunau. > > > Hi All, > I'm certain this subject has already been done to death, but my memory is > failing me. > I know that cast iron Datsun brake drums can be made to fit our cars. Can > the > erudite among us say from which model Datsun they come, and what if any > modifications are necessary? Are there any other alternatives? > Many thanks, > Mark > TC1459 > TA1392 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[FrankGraham]

Brembo makes new Datsun 240/260Z finned alloy drums with cast iron liners which are 9" ID with a 4 bolt pattern but can be modified to fit a TA/B/C. They are Brembo #21031. Since I have a lathe and milling machine I bought 4 new ones from an outfit in Florida for $65/each and I am modifying them to fit my TC. The depth of the drum needs to be reduced approximately .200", A groove cut in the fins to clear the lip of the brake backing plate, the center hole enlarged for the splined hub, and finally redrilled for the 6 bolt TA/B/C pattern. You can also buy these from Nissan and NAPA but they are priced from $85 -150 each depending on the source. Unless you can find them for a reasonable price like I did and have access to machinery it is probably more cost effective to buy Bob's Alfins which are ready to bolt on. I have gotten a little carried away in modifying the Brembo drums and have made them look more like the Alfins. I will take a few photos of the stock Datsun drum and one of the new Brembos that I am working on and try to post them on the TA/B/C website. -- Frank < frankgraham@msn.com > ______________________

[Jeff Redman]

G'day Frank and Graham, Datsun seems to be a popular source of 'Alternative Spares' for our particular toys! First steering... now stopping. Sandbags in place, trenches dug and heads down! The 240Z drums mentioned in other posts can be modified to fit... however (here's a warning)...there seems to be some emerging evidence of these nice-looking drums showing signs of failure (cracking), due to the centre hole being enlarged to fit the TA/C hub. This causes the removal of the stiffening ring around the original hub hole. Enter weakness. This news is anecdotal, as I have no experience with this mod. Another factor locally: some folk must have been busy for I hear the price of these Datto drums has gone thru the roof. For my money, I'm playing it safe by saving for The Real Thing - aka Bob Gruneau's superb Alfins. Having seen, now coveted. Meanwhile Poverty Performance Products Inc. (located in my shed), has found a few budget alternatives. The ever-accommodating Datsun marque yields 9" cast-iron drums which can be fitted with minimal machining, and of equal consideration, minimal C O S T, for they can be had for scrap value! The donor is the 180B model, i.e. its rear drums. Equally important in the dollar stakes are the rear drums from the Chrysler Sigma, again 9", and with half an hour on the lathe + 10 minutes with the drill press, the TC can be back on the road with fresh stoppers, the wallet unopened. The big trouble seems to be IDENTIFICATION. I sent this info across to our mate Joe Gates, but I hear the poor bugger is still running around trying to work out 'what's a Sigma?' in Seth Efrica! Seems the names of various models vary on differing international markets. If anyone is still following this story, and is interested in I.D-ing the sources of the bits mentioned, contact me off line and I'll fwd photos of the things mentioned. Friday night, and its time for the pub. Hooroo JR -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of FrankGraham Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 4:06 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Brake Drums Brembo makes new Datsun 240/260Z finned alloy drums with cast iron liners which are 9" ID with a 4 bolt pattern but can be modified to fit a TA/B/C. They are Brembo #21031. Since I have a lathe and milling machine I bought 4 new ones from an outfit in Florida for $65/each and I am modifying them to fit my TC. The depth of the drum needs to be reduced approximately .200", A groove cut in the fins to clear the lip of the brake backing plate, the center hole enlarged for the splined hub, and finally redrilled for the 6 bolt TA/B/C pattern. You can also buy these from Nissan and NAPA but they are priced from $85 -150 each depending on the source. Unless you can find them for a reasonable price like I did and have access to machinery it is probably more cost effective to buy Bob's Alfins which are ready to bolt on. I have gotten a little carried away in modifying the Brembo drums and have made them look more like the Alfins. I will take a few photos of the stock Datsun drum and one of the new Brembos that I am working on and try to post them on the TA/B/C website. -- Frank < frankgraham@msn.com > ______________________ Yahoo! Groups Links