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Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2001 3:59 am**

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Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:52 am**

Hi All, Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have a spare which I would like to use. Regards, Ron Benson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:01 am**

Ron, It only requires tuning the horn for 12 volts with the point gap screw on the back of the horn. As long as you don't lay on the horn incessantly, no problem. If you want to blow the horn like a Roman taxi driver, you will eventually fry the windings. Short bursts of under 15 seconds will not hurt it. Caveat emptor: This is my experience, not based on any electrical engineering! Cheers, George Wolf TC3452 British Auto Specialty From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Benson Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:01 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Horns Hi All, Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have a spare which I would like to use. Regards, Ron Benson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:48 pm**

Hi Ron Benson, This is a very good question. Similar that question " Can any one drive a TC at 150 Miles/ Hour in a sharp road curve". The answer is " Yes " we can. But only once. That is my thought. So with the 6 V Horn will operate in 12 V battery. But only few times. Have a nice day. Madhu

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Ron Benson ronb9131@virginmedia.com>wrote: > ** > > > Hi All, > > Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have > a > spare which I would like to use. > > Regards, > > Ron Benson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:02 pm**

> Ron and Madhu et al. > > Not necessarily so. > > If you know how much current the horn draws at 6V (and you can measure > that with an ammeter), you can use Ohm's Law to determine how to select a > suitable series dropping resistor. If you have no DC ammeter, you can also > use an ohmmeter to measure the horn's coil resistance, and then use Ohm's > Law to determine a suitable resistor value in ohms and its wattage rating. > If someone would like to measure the resistance of their horn/s, I would > be happy to crunch the numbers. > > == Alex in Maine > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > 1965 MG Midget > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Madhusudhanan Paroor" madhuparoor@googlemail.com> > To: "Ron Benson" ronb9131@virginmedia.com> > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Horns > > >> Hi Ron Benson, >> >> This is a very good question. >> >> Similar that question " Can any one drive a TC at 150 Miles/ Hour in a >> sharp road curve". >> >> The answer is " Yes " we can. >> >> But only once. That is my thought. >> >> So with the 6 V Horn will operate in 12 V battery. But only few times. >> >> Have a nice day. >> >> Madhu >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Ron Benson >> ronb9131@virginmedia.com>wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I >>> have >>> a >>> spare which I would like to use. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Ron Benson >> >

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:03 pm**

Why not put a large resister in line to reduce the wear on the poor horn. Arnold, TC0580 near Victoria BC

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Alex alexmm@roadrunner.com> wrote: > ** > > > > > > Ron and Madhu et al. > > > > Not necessarily so. > > > > If you know how much current the horn draws at 6V (and you can measure > > that with an ammeter), you can use Ohm's Law to determine how to select > a > > suitable series dropping resistor. If you have no DC ammeter, you can > also > > use an ohmmeter to measure the horn's coil resistance, and then use > Ohm's > > Law to determine a suitable resistor value in ohms and its wattage > rating. > > If someone would like to measure the resistance of their horn/s, I would > > be happy to crunch the numbers. > > > > == Alex in Maine > > "The Blue Mainie," 1960 Austin Healey 3000 BT7 > > "Conkling," 1946 M.G. TC #1321 > > Former owner 1957 A-H 100-6, 1967 A-H BJ8, > > 1965 MG Midget > > http://home.roadrunner.com/~alexmm > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Madhusudhanan Paroor" madhuparoor@googlemail.com> > > To: "Ron Benson" ronb9131@virginmedia.com> > > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Horns > > > > > >> Hi Ron Benson, > >> > >> This is a very good question. > >> > >> Similar that question " Can any one drive a TC at 150 Miles/ Hour in a > >> sharp road curve". > >> > >> The answer is " Yes " we can. > >> > >> But only once. That is my thought. > >> > >> So with the 6 V Horn will operate in 12 V battery. But only few times. > >> > >> Have a nice day. > >> > >> Madhu > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Ron Benson > >> ronb9131@virginmedia.com>wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I > >>> have > >>> a > >>> spare which I would like to use. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Ron Benson > >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:30 pm**

In a message dated 10/30/2011 1:02:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alexmm@roadrunner.com writes: Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I

>>> have >>> a >>> spare which I would like to use. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Ron Benson

I've had a 6v horn on my TA for over 20 years.....it just hoots a little louder! Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:48 pm**

Ron, You can use the 6 V horn with 12 volts. The 6 volt version is actually more robust than the 12 volt. You can check this yourself. Search the internet for "6 Volt to 12 Volt conversion." You would be surprised at all the info available. It is pretty common. A lot of American manufacturers switch from 6 to 12 volts in the 50s and a lot of people want to upgrade their cars to the better electrics. Generally the 6V horn and starter are kept as they are actually more robust (heavier gauge wiring) than the 12 volt versions and are used only for a few seconds at a time. Charles Hill

On 10/18/2011 10:01 AM, Ron Benson wrote: > Hi All, > > Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have a > spare which I would like to use. > > > > Regards, > > Ron Benson > > > >

Posted: **Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:45 am**

hi Ron - my experience is that the horn is so darned feeble, that using a 6V on 12V can only be a bonus... Seriously, these Altettes sound great in the garage, whether at home or for the MOT, but on the open road, forget it!!! I fitted an Italian made Klaxon type (from Steve Taylor at SVC) on the O/S of the bulkhead, which is really loud (especially in narrow streets) On the other hand, you could always fit TWO 6V in series... ocTagonally TCRoger Devon

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Benson" ronb9131@virginmedia.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:01 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Horns > Hi All, > > Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have > a > spare which I would like to use. > > > > Regards, > > Ron Benson > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Posted: **Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:10 am**

Ron, Like Roger, as well as the standard Altette, I fitted a klaxon (similar to SVC http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/klaxon-horn-red/) to a small angle bracket stretched across the front dumb irons using existing holes in the chassis. The klaxon is then completely hidden underneath the front apron. It is activated by an extra push switch on the little accessories panel I fitted just below the dash. Great fun! Regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120 East Sussex, England

----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Furneaux To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com ; Ron Benson Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Horns hi Ron - my experience is that the horn is so darned feeble, that using a 6V on 12V can only be a bonus... Seriously, these Altettes sound great in the garage, whether at home or for the MOT, but on the open road, forget it!!! I fitted an Italian made Klaxon type (from Steve Taylor at SVC) on the O/S of the bulkhead, which is really loud (especially in narrow streets) On the other hand, you could always fit TWO 6V in series... ocTagonally TCRoger Devon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Benson" ronb9131@virginmedia.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 4:01 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Horns > Hi All, > > Anyone know if 6 Volt Altette horns can be modified to 12 volt use? I have > a > spare which I would like to use. > > > > Regards, > > Ron Benson > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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