Re: LAST VIRUS FOR ME

[Jan cadik]

Gentlemen, Perhaps for the TABC club, you may consider a free hotmail e-mail address. As you see, I am using it. I received the other day the HI virus from my friend, but hotmail STOPPED me from infecting my PC. It was a brand new virus that day. Hotmail identified the virus and stopped me from downloading the infected file to my PC. To have a "good" virus software is good, however, it is only as good as everyone's discipline. If you do not refresh it at least daily, you are risking a chance that you may get infected. Hotmail is getting the latest updates constantly, which makes the window when you can get infected very small. Good luck ... Jan Cadik TC/8333 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

[Chip Old]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 miturn@bellsouth.net wrote:

> PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST OR TELL ME HOW TO GET OFF IT. > > I'VE PICKED UP MY LAST THREE VIRUSES TODAY! > > THANKS FOR THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO MY REQUEST > > Carol Marcom TC 6471

Lex Franks franksfam@ozemail.com.au>: The message that has caused all the fuss was sent from your PC. The file attachment carries the BadTrans.B Worm, which means your PC is infected by BadTrans.B. You need to do something about that, otherwise your PC will continue to send out infected messages. For more information see: http://www.bcpl.net/news/news.20011128a.badtrans Carol Marcom miturn@bellsouth.net>: No, you haven't picked up your last three viruses. As long as your PC is connected to the Internet, you are going to be exposed to viruses. Instead of blaming the MG-TABC list, learn how to protect your PC. However your subsequent messages make it pretty clear that your real complaint is about the volume of off-topic messages posted to the MG-TABC list. If that's the case, say so. You might also do your part toward getting the list back on course by contributing something on-topic. I don't remember ever having seen any posting from you before, either on or off topic. Everyone else: Okay folks, you are about to get the same lecture I give my Internet Service customers. If you're not inclined to pay attention, hit "delete" now. Will you all PLEASE stop panicking about viruses? You're not going to avoid them by getting off this mailing list or any other mailing list. If your computer is connected to the Internet, then you are going to receive virus-infected e-mail. That's a fact of life on the Internet. To protect yourself you have two choices: Either learn how to manage the "new technology" tools you have chosen to use, or pack your PC back in its box, put it in the attic, and never touch it again. I'll assume the latter isn't an option, so listen up. Most viruses that are distributed via e-mail are carried in a file attachment. If the file attachment is opened on your PC, your PC becomes infected. In most cases that means your PC begins sending out infected e-mail of its own. How it selects addresses to send to varies from one virus to another, but typically the virus gathers addresses from your address book, and/or from e-mail messages in your inbox, and/or from e-mail messages in saved mail folders, and/or from Web pages cached on your hard disk by your Web browser. In most cases you won't know your PC is doing this until you start getting complaints from the recipients of the infected messages. Three simple precautions will protect your PC from viruses: 1) If you receive an unexpected e-mail file attachment, don't open it even if it appears to be from someone you know. If in doubt, before opening the attachment contact the apparent sender to find out if he/she really intended to send it. 2) Make sure your e-mail program cannot automatically open file attachments. Some older e-mail programs came configured to automatically open attachments by default. That is very dangerous! If your mail program is configured to automatically open file attachments, TURN THAT OPTION OFF! Even worse, due to a bug in some versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer, and due to the way Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express use Internet Explorer, certain file types will always be opened automatically by Internet Explorer no matter what. This "auto-open" bug has been known about for a long time, and there is a patch on the Microsoft web site to fix it. The patch is available at: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp The affected versions are Internet Explorer 5.01 that has not been updated by Service Pack 2, and Internet Explorer 5.5. Older versions of Internet Explorer are no longer supported by Microsoft, and Microsoft will not say whether they are affected by the "auto-open" bug. Internet Explorer 6 is not affected. Therefore, if you use Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express for e-mail and also have Microsoft Internet Explorer, you MUST do which ever of the following is appropriate: o If you have Internet Explorer older than version 5.01, upgrade to a newer version. o If you have Internet Explorer 5.01, either install Service Pack 2 or the patch described above. o If you have Internet Explorer 5.5, install the patch described above. o If you have Internet Explorer 6 or newer, breathe easy for now but be aware that new vulnerabilities are found in Microsoft software almost every day. If a security patch or upgrade becomes available, install it! 3) If you don't have an anti-virus program on your PC, get one, install it, and learn how to configure it to protect your PC against e-mail viruses. If you already have an anti-virus program, keep it up to date. An anti-virus program that is not kept up to date doesn't know how to deal with new viruses, so is next to useless. All anti-virus programs have some sort of "Update" option that connects to the vendor's Web site to download and install updated scanning engines and virus description files. Run the updater frequently, at least once a week. When you got interested in working on old BritCars, you learned how to use the tools necessary to maintain your car. You learned how to find the parts and information it takes to keep the car going. You learned to drive a fifty year old car with absolutely no modern safety features safely in modern traffic. It isn't rocket science, and neither is protecting your PC from viruses. If you were able to learn to care for your old BritCar, then you are able to learn what it takes to protect your PC from viruses -- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold@bcpl.net Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180 Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road Towson, MD 21204 USA

[miturn@bellsouth.net]

yes,and your email is infected with two viruses! My point is still valid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TATERRY@aol.com wrote:

> > In a message dated 12/11/01 15:50:35 Pacific Standard Time, > miturn@bellsouth.net writes: > > technical assistance for TC members as well. >> > > No one ever said that this list for technical assistance only......it is for > owner's of these little jewels to commune........on any subject that interest > them.........I love it when someone complains and has contributed naught! > Happy Holidays from the Left Coast > Terry

[miturn@bellsouth.net]

I have an excellent anti-virus software in Norton as well as Diamond anti-trojan and Zone Alarm protection. My computer is NOT infected....just tired of having to constantly quarantine the darned things!!!!!!!! Jan cadik wrote:

> > Gentlemen, > Perhaps for the TABC club, you may consider a free hotmail e-mail address. > As you see, I am using it. I received the other day the HI virus from my > friend, but hotmail STOPPED me from infecting my PC. It was a brand new > virus that day. Hotmail identified the virus and stopped me from > downloading the infected file to my PC. > > To have a "good" virus software is good, however, it is only as good as > everyone's discipline. If you do not refresh it at least daily, you are > risking a chance that you may get infected. Hotmail is getting the latest > updates constantly, which makes the window when you can get infected very > small. > > Good luck ... Jan Cadik TC/8333 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com

[miturn@bellsouth.net]

and to you too, May Terry's email infect your computer too Bye. We are OFF the list!!!!!!!!!!!!1 DougPulver@aol.com wrote:

> > Right on Terry! > > Doug > South Left Coast

[Frank O_ The Mountain]

In a message dated 12/11/01 22:43:06 Pacific Standard Time, miturn@bellsouth.net writes: TATERRY@aol.com wrote:

> > In a message dated 12/11/01 15:50:35 Pacific Standard Time, > miturn@bellsouth.net writes: > > technical assistance for TC members as well. >> > >>

Any one else seeing a virus coming along with my emails........I don't use any MS programs and as far as I know, I am virus free. I'm not sure miturn knows what a virus is. Terry

[candahill@worldnet.att.net]

Terry, I didn't see any virus on your emails. The only one I saw on the TABC list was from Lex Franks' address. Chip, I really liked your post. Lot of good info there. Regards, Charles Hill

[Chip Old]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 miturn@bellsouth.net wrote:

> yes,and your email is infected with two viruses! My point is still > valid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, Terry's message was NOT infected. Furthermore, no current viruses spread themselves by attaching themselves to messages intentionally sent by the user of an infected PC. They send their own infected messages, without the knowledge of the PC user. Furthermore, it is impossible for a single message to carry two different viruses. Your antivirus software may be reporting multiple infected messages when you download your e-mail, but that does not mean they are all carried by the same message or even that tey are all coming from MG-TABC list members. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[AJChalmers@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/12/01 6:13:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, taterry@aol.com writes:

I'm not sure miturn knows what a virus is.

Well Mr. Congenialty is gone now anyway. My, what a grumpy O.F.

[jzielinski@aquensis.de]

Well, MG friends, thanks to my emailsystem, based on Lotus Notes, I did not have any ot the viruses on my computer, you were talking about for the past days (weeks - months). Lotus Notes takes any email which is identified to have something in it, that is similar to virus activity, into a special folder, called 'quarantine'. Then it is up to me, to open those emails - or not. From time to time I delete all the emails in the folder 'quarantine' without even touching those emails. I am glad that a group of that kind exists, for the information I gain through all these emails about the MG T-Types is very useful and valuable for me and my car. Best regards to all in the group from M nchen, Bayern, Deutschland (Munich, Bavaria, Germany) have a quiet season, and keep the cars running ... yours hans MG-TC 6300, MG F1 1071, MGA Dr. Johannes Zielinski email: jzielinski@aquensis.de