useful battery chart

[Jeff Saline]

Listers, The below information was recently posted to the airheads list. It was first posted there 10 years ago. I thought some of you may find it useful. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> This is from the Jan-Feb issue of Solar Today; a magazine aimed at those "off the grid". Seems to fit with our current (and perennial) discussion of batteries and charging systems. You do need a digital voltmeter, the readings are at 70 degrees F and are for lead-acid batteries. You want to wait about 15 minutes or more after charging the battery or running the bike to allow the "surface charge" to disappate. I put this table on a little card and keep it with the VOM. Percent Voltage of charge: Reading: 100% 12.63 90% 12.54 80% 12.45 70% 12.36 60% 12.27 50% 12.18 40% 12.09 30% 12.00 20% 11.91 0% 11.82

[albatrossklr]

Hey Jeff... Were these readings under load? albatross who's not loaded

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Listers, > > The below information was recently posted to the airheads list. It was > first posted there 10 years ago. I thought some of you may find it > useful. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > <><><><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><><><> > This is from the Jan-Feb issue of Solar Today; a magazine aimed at those > "off the grid". Seems to fit with our current (and perennial) discussion > of batteries and charging systems. You do need a digital voltmeter, the > readings are at 70 degrees F and are for lead-acid batteries. You want > to wait about 15 minutes or more after charging the battery or running > the bike to allow the "surface charge" to disappate. I put this table on > a little card and keep it with the VOM. > > Percent Voltage > of charge: Reading: > > 100% 12.63 > 90% 12.54 > 80% 12.45 > 70% 12.36 > 60% 12.27 > 50% 12.18 > 40% 12.09 > 30% 12.00 > 20% 11.91 > 0% 11.82 >

[Jeff Saline]

TOP POSTED albatross, Those are readings you get on a battery at rest. No load. Just put the meter on it and take the reading. Then compare it with the numbers on the chart. If you are wondering if a battery is fully charged this will help you make a good evaluation. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:34:12 -0000 "albatrossklr" writes:

> Hey Jeff... > > Were these readings under load? > > albatross > who's not loaded > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline > wrote: > > > > Listers, > > > > The below information was recently posted to the airheads list. > It was > > first posted there 10 years ago. I thought some of you may find > it > > useful. > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > <><><><><><><><><> > > <><><><><><><><><> > > This is from the Jan-Feb issue of Solar Today; a magazine aimed at > those > > "off the grid". Seems to fit with our current (and perennial) > discussion > > of batteries and charging systems. You do need a digital > voltmeter, the > > readings are at 70 degrees F and are for lead-acid batteries. You > want > > to wait about 15 minutes or more after charging the battery or > running > > the bike to allow the "surface charge" to disappate. I put this > table on > > a little card and keep it with the VOM. > > > > Percent Voltage > > of charge: Reading: > > > > 100% 12.63 > > 90% 12.54 > > 80% 12.45 > > 70% 12.36 > > 60% 12.27 > > 50% 12.18 > > 40% 12.09 > > 30% 12.00 > > 20% 11.91 > > 0% 11.82 > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

[Lee Dodge]

Ok! Ok! It's there now. Just a note: I did post it on the 11th and didn't see it that day so I thought I did it wrong. Well today it show up, the delay was not something I anticipated. ________________________________ From: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, January 12, 2013 5:46:11 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Digest Number 12380 DualSportNews' KLR650 Discussion List DualSportNews' KLR650 Discussion List Group 9 New Messages Digest #12380 1a Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) by "bryanonfire" bryanonfire 1b Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) by "mark ward" nomad59@... 1c Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) by "revmaaatin" revmaaatin 2a Re: A useful Battery Chart by "Jud" judjonzz 2b Re: A useful Battery Chart by "mark ward" nomad59@... 2c Re: A useful Battery Chart by "Fred Hink" moabmc1 3a Re: Best Bear gun....NKLR...sorta by "Jud" judjonzz 3b Re: Best Bear gun....NKLR...sorta by "mark ward" nomad59@... 4.1 New file uploaded to DSN_KLR650 by Messages 1a Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:26 am (PST) . Posted by: "bryanonfire" bryanonfire Another source of information is to search "river rescue Z drag." Pulling a boat off a rock is probably more like pulling a motorcycle out of a deep ditch than hauling someone out of a crevasse. Solid anchors and good equipment are a must, you'll want some 1" tubular webbing for anchoring to trees or rocks as well as the pullys, rope, and caribiners. One thing a lot of drawings don't show, but it could save you from serious injury: visualize where the rope and pullys will go if any point fails. Some of it could come your way. Tie a jacket or some other large, soft object to that section of the drag system to slow it down as it flies your way. I carry this stuff on most of my whitewater river trips and it's too bulky and heavy to justify carrying it on a solo motorcycle trip, but no worse than a couple of come-alongs and a lot more versatile. Split up among two or three riders it would probably be worth taking if you were going into really rough terrain. For most motorcycle situations 20 - 30 feet of 1" tubular webbing and a lot of grunt work would probablly be a better choice: low bulk, super strong. It will all be useless if you don't know how to tie (and apply) the right knots: prussik and figure 8 at minimum, and possibly self - equalizing anchors depending on your anchor options. Mark is correct, hardware store stuff is not rated and you never know what kind of quality (or lack thereof) you'll get. Plus the rope you get at the local hardware store will stretch way too much, you'll want a static rope for this job. Bryan

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mark Harfenist wrote: > > It doesn't take an engineer to know that it doesn't matter what size the >pulleys are; your mechanical advantage stays the same regardless. I'd suggest >using the glacier rescue pulleys sold in mountaineering supply stores--they >combine with carabiners for attaching in a variety of ways. > > > Google "crevasse rescue" for system setups, since there are many ways to do >this depending on what sort of pull you need to exert and by how many people. >You'll want to practice in private at home; it can be tough to figure things out >when panicky or injured. > > You'll also want to think carefully about the forces involved. Parachute cord >will break. There's a reason why mountaineers carry rope for such things, even >though they weigh less than motorcycles. Dragging a couple of hundred kilos of >dead weight uphill using a 6-1 pulley system can easily generate a couple of >thousand pounds of pull on a rope. 8 or 9 mm perlon (or lighter weight spectra >cord) is the minimum. You don't buy that at your local hardware store. > > > Good luck. > > Mark > Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (11) . Top ^ 1b Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:21 am (PST) . Posted by: "mark ward" nomad59@... If a copiie sorry, I lost the 1st try and do not know if it was sent. I have carried a 3/8ths, " ROPE RATCHET" 250lb. (comes in 5sizes 3/16th150lb -1/2" 500lb) (home depot, tractor supplie Etc. 3/8 $13.) Comes with a 8ft 3/8ths rope. but has no limit, 1000 ft etc. Looks like a reg. pulley with a hook. RATCHET, as you pull it clicks (ratchets) and LOCKS IN PLACE, (So OLD guys can rest between pulling.) tieing down loads, use as a compact comealong etc. to hold loads up. What would be nice is a "ROPE PULLER&qu ot; popular in Canada, and "Tower workers" , Works like a come-along, but you yse a rope AS LONG as you want 1000ft? just keep ratcheting. But like a comealong, kind of BULKY for a bike. (Handle etc.) --- On Fri, 1/11/13, bryanonfire bryantburke@ hotmail.com> wrote: From: bryanonfire bryantburke@ hotmail.com> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 3:26 PM Another source of information is to search "river rescue Z drag." Pulling a boat off a rock is probably more like pulling a motorcycle out of a deep ditch than hauling someone out of a crevasse. Solid anchors and good equipment are a must, you'll want some 1" tubular webbing for anchoring to trees or rocks as well as the pullys, rope, and caribiners. One thing a lot of drawings don't show, but it could save you from serious injury: visualize where the rope and pullys will go if any point fails. Some of it could come your way. Tie a jacket or some other large, soft object to that section of the drag system to slow it down as it flies your way. I carry this stuff on most of my whitewater river trips and it's too bulky and heavy to justify carrying it on a solo motorcycle trip, but no worse than a couple of come-alongs and a lot more versatile. Split up among two or three riders it would probably be worth taking if you were going into really rough terrain. For most motorcycle situations 20 - 30 feet of 1" tubular webbing and a lot of grunt work would probablly be a better choice: low bulk, super strong. It will all be useless if you don't know how to tie (and apply) the right knots: prussik and figure 8 at minimum, and possibly self - equalizing anchors depending on your anchor options. Mark is correct, hardware store stuff is not rated and you never know what kind of quality (or lack thereof) you'll get. Plus the rope you get at the local hardware store will stretch way too much, you'll want a static rope for this job. Bryan --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mark Harfenist wrote: > > It doesn't take an engineer to know that it doesn't matter what size the >pulleys are; your mechanical advantage stays the same regardless. I'd suggest >using the glacier rescue pulleys sold in mountaineering supply stores--they >combine with carabiners for attaching in a variety of ways. > > > Google "crevasse rescue" for system setups, since there are many ways to do >this depending on what sort of pull you need to exert and by how many people. >You'll want to practice in private at home; it can be tough to figure things out >when panicky or injured. > > You'll also want to think carefully about the forces involved. Parachute cord >will break. There's a reason why mountaineers carry rope for such things, even >though they weigh less than motorcycles. Dragging a couple of hundred kilos of >dead weight uphill using a 6-1 pulley system can easily generate a couple of >thousand pounds of pull on a rope. 8 or 9 mm perlon (or lighter weight spectra >cord) is the minimum. You don't buy that at your local hardware store. > > > Good luck. > > Mark > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (11) . Top ^ 1c Re: Engineer Question, (non klr, kind of) Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:04 pm (PST) . Posted by: "revmaaatin" revmaaatin --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I'll give you the non-engineer answer - buy a winch. > http://www.cjdesign sllc.com/ about-us/ brands/1137- 2/ > That looks like a nice piece of gear. cough. Oh, Yeah, how well will that work on the KLR subframe. wink. and the itsy bitsy battery. shrug. revmaaatin. who is a tad skeptikal. Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (11) . Top ^ 2a Re: A useful Battery Chart Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:34 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jud" judjonzz Why don't you post it to the Files section too. Those of us who read the list on-line will not see the attachment. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Lee Dodge wrote: > > Just ran across this Word Doc and find it useful you may too. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (4) . Top ^ 2b Re: A useful Battery Chart Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:36 am (PST) . Posted by: "mark ward" nomad59@... I still have NOT seen the attachment . --- On Fri, 1/11/13, Jud judjonzz@msn. com> wrote: From: Jud judjonzz@msn. com> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A useful Battery Chart To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 5:34 PM Why don't you post it to the Files section too. Those of us who read the list on-line will not see the attachment. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Lee Dodge wrote: > > Just ran across this Word Doc and find it useful you may too. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (4) . Top ^ 2c Re: A useful Battery Chart Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:46 am (PST) . Posted by: "Fred Hink" moabmc1 We tried allowing attachments for a while a long time ago but it didn t work out. Fred list admin. From: mark ward Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:36 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com ; Jud Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A useful Battery Chart I still have NOT seen the attachment . --- On Fri, 1/11/13, Jud mailto:judjonzz% 40msn.com> wrote: From: Jud mailto:judjonzz% 40msn.com> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A useful Battery Chart To: mailto:DSN_KLR650% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 5:34 PM Why don't you post it to the Files section too. Those of us who read the list on-line will not see the attachment. --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650% 40yahoogroups. com, Lee Dodge wrote: > > Just ran across this Word Doc and find it useful you may too. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (4) . Top ^ 3a Re: Best Bear gun....NKLR...sorta Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:40 am (PST) . Posted by: "Jud" judjonzz The conventional wisdom on the Smith & Wesson Forum suggests that a .32 is too much gun for bear. A ,22 will suffice. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Ron Criswell wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ....is a 32 automatic when hiking....with a buddy.... and a Griz attacks you. >Shoot your buddy in the knee and run like hell (heh). > > Criswell > Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) . Top ^ 3b Re: Best Bear gun....NKLR...sorta Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:34 am (PST) . Posted by: "mark ward" nomad59@... A quick HARD kick to the shin is enough for most bears,...... ..Your "EX-buddies&qu ot; shin,that is. --- On Fri, 1/11/13, Jud judjonzz@msn. com> wrote: From: Jud judjonzz@msn. com> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Best Bear gun....NKLR. ..sorta To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 5:40 PM The conventional wisdom on the Smith & Wesson Forum suggests that a .32 is too much gun for bear. A ,22 will suffice. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Ron Criswell wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ....is a 32 automatic when hiking....with a buddy.... and a Griz attacks you. >Shoot your buddy in the knee and run like hell (heh). > > Criswell > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) . Top ^ 4.1 New file uploaded to DSN_KLR650 Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:28 pm (PST) . Posted by: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the DSN_KLR650 group. 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