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				oil change
				Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2000 2:28 pm
				by Jim & Shannon Morehead
				I just changed the Honda 20W-50 out of my A13 this morning, installed a new
 filter with Kawasaki 10W-40 oil.  I noted that the Honda oil, only in the
 engine about 10 or 20 miles, was not very black after draining.
 
 It is subjective, but the transmission seems to shift better and neutral is
 easy to find.  We'll see if the engine rattles when started cold.  I'll bet
 it doesn't.  I'm glad to report there were no new shavings in the filter
 housing.
 
 Jim
 
			 
			
					
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				Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2000 3:11 pm
				by aches@deltech.net
				Bruce,
 I change mine in accordance with the kind of riding I've been doing.
 Lot's of time in the dirt with lots of dust., 2000. Normal 3000. But if,
 say I was gonna take a long trip that would do about 6K miles and it was
 mainly hiway where the oil temp would stay up far long periods of time,
 then I may be inclined to run 6K on it.
 I'm of the old school of changing the oil with the filter. If you're
 gonna change one and not the other, it would be the filter.
 
 --
 Best Regards & Happy Trails
 Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking
 Y2KLR650 @ 6.4K sMiles
 97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16K Miles
 So Many Roads, So Little Time
 
http://members.deltech.net/aches/ 
			 
			
					
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 7:34 am
				by martig117@aol.com
				Did my first oil change at 720 miles.  Couldn't resist riding until I 
 could get a filter.  Is there a way to change the filter without 
 having oil run down the side of the bike (and make a nice puddle in 
 the engine guard)when you take the oil filter cover off? The oil 
 didn't drain from the area outside the filter.  I had the bike on the 
 stand; would it have made a difference if the bike was straight up?  
 When I used a shop towel to soak up the excess, I noticed quite a few 
 metal shavings.  Looked like aluminum.  Hope that's normal for the 
 1st oil change.
 
 What do you think about a 43-year-old buying his 1st MC?  Mid-life 
 crisis?
 
 Thanks
 Gary
 A15
 
			 
			
					
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 7:45 am
				by tebklr@aol.com
				In a message dated 10/29/00 7:34:54 AM Central Standard Time, 
 martig117@... writes:
 
    >>
 
  
Nope. It's a mid-life coming-to-your-senses!!!!!  Good job!!
 
 Tom
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 8:39 am
				by Mark
				At 1:34 PM +0000 10/29/00, martig117@... wrote:
 
 >What do you think about a 43-year-old buying his 1st MC?  Mid-life
 >crisis?
 
  
That depends.... did you get it for riding or for posing?
 Mark
 B2
 A2
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 6:53 pm
				by Mark Wilson
				> When I used a shop towel to soak up the excess, I noticed quite a few 
 > metal shavings.  Looked like aluminum.  Hope that's normal for the 
 > 1st oil change.
 
  
Buy a magnetic drain plug from Fred.
 
 
 > What do you think about a 43-year-old buying his 1st MC?  Mid-life 
 > crisis?
 > 
 > Thanks
 > Gary
 > A15 
 
  
Better late than never!!
 
 ride safe,
 MotorMark
 
http://www.geocities.com/motormark64/
 http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/
 KLR-650 A-13 "warthogg"
 XR250R "superfly"
 Stone Mountain, Ga
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 8:49 pm
				by Harry Thames
				Harry Thames
 South Carolina
 
 
 
 > 
 > > When I used a shop towel to soak up the excess, I noticed quite a few 
 > > metal shavings.  Looked like aluminum.  Hope that's normal for the 
 > > 1st oil change.
 > 
 > Buy a magnetic drain plug from Fred.
 > 
  
Even Fred's magnetic drain plug won't attract the aluminum.
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2000 9:13 pm
				by Mark Wilson
				> > > When I used a shop towel to soak up the excess, I noticed quite a few
 > > > metal shavings.  Looked like aluminum.  Hope that's normal for the
 > > > 1st oil change.
 > >
 > > Buy a magnetic drain plug from Fred.
 > >
 > Even Fred's magnetic drain plug won't attract the aluminum.
 >
 
 
  
After the first, or maybe second oil change, you shouldnt see any more
 aluminum stuff in the oil. It is normal break in stuff.
 
 MotorMark
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2000 6:08 pm
				by D.J. Rogers
				Yeah, you can change the filter without worrying about losing a lot 
 of oil.  Just leave it on the side stand for a while to allow the oil 
 to drain out of the filter. FWIW, there is always a bit of oil left 
 on the filter chamber and I usually just wipe it out with a rag. 
 
 The metal in the filter and surrounding area is scary, but normal I 
 think (anyone?).  The worst part about doing an oil change 
 (especially the first one)is seeing all that stuff in the filter.  
 I've got 10K km's on my bike and still see some (and it's had 5 oil 
 changes).  Don't sweat it unless it seems excessive.
 
 Cheers,
 
 D.
 GBG eh14
 
			 
			
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				Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 11:58 am
				by aches@deltech.net
				hey guy,
 I have to go with the Professor on the NOT running the engine for a bit
 with ZERO oil pressure. Not good for the plain bears none. Needles and
 ball bearings don't to much care as long as there are wet. If you ran
 too long without Oil pressure on these the heat would become a factor
 sooner or later and hence bearing discoloration and failure. Seen this
 too much on the , too many to want to remember, engine teardowns I've
 done when making a living as a drill rig mechanic for 20 years.  Lots of
 industrial engines start with the governor in the wide open position and
 activate as soon as the gov get op (oil pressure) to get it working. But
 this full throttle start shows up during teardowns as opposed to the
 guys whom forceably hold back on the throttle and not let the engine
 haul butt till the gov takes over.
 What I do and have forever is just drain what comes out, put the
 recommended amount of oil, GO RIDE. People really get  entirely too
 serious about this oil thing anyway.  Go do your maintenance,  don't
 make yourself more trouble than necessary by trying to over emphasize
 the stuff. and go enjoy that scooter.
 
 --
 Best Regards & Happy Trails
 Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking
 in Jennings in SW Louisiana
 Y2KLR650 @ 7+K sMiles
 97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16+K sMiles
 So Many Roads, So Little Time
 
http://members.deltech.net/aches/