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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Nichols wrote:

> > I'm going to check another KLR later. My father in law's. >

I hope it is not to late!!!!!! KiLeRista Rule # 127.6 NO RUN is a contagious condition. DO NOT park these bikes close together. EVER!!!! I once parked two KLR's (for the winter) near another KLR with a dying battery and within DAYS the other two were demanding a new battery as well. You have been warned... and it has NOTHING to do with the fact they were all replaced earlier at about the same time..... Rule #127.6a Never park near a bike with a flat tire. see rule #127.6; contagious clause. revmaaatin.

[mark ward]

Hey Jeff (and all)You're a details man. Batterys and know to handle just so many charges, and the plates etc. change. (changes do to charges, usage etc.) Is there a "best" way for LONG term storage of a battery, (Bike, Deep cell what ever) Say you have an extra deep cell or leaving a bike (etc.) stored for a couple of yrs. (2-5yr's??) even If on a tender they still are going threw tiny charges that wear them down. (SHORTEN THERE LIVES.) In the warehouse, before being sold, they do not have water in them and are NOT charged etc., to maintain the SHELF LIFE. Is there a way to prolong shelf life after, WE get them and they have been used?? Drain power & then Drain water? (Charging and discharging (using) The plates have a chemical reaction and build up, is a big AGE factor.) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) mark ward writes:

> Hey Jeff (and all)You're a details man. > > Batterys and know to handle just so many charges, and the plates > etc. change. (changes do to charges, usage etc.) > > Is there a "best" way for LONG term storage of a battery, (Bike, > Deep cell what ever) > > Say you have an extra deep cell or leaving a bike (etc.) stored for > a couple of yrs. (2-5yr's??) > > even If on a tender they still are going threw tiny charges that > wear them down. > (SHORTEN THERE LIVES.) > > In the warehouse, before being sold, they do not have water in them > and are NOT charged etc., to maintain the SHELF LIFE. > > Is there a way to prolong shelf life after, WE get them and they > have been used?? > > Drain power & then Drain water? > > (Charging and discharging (using) The plates have a chemical > reaction and build up, is a big AGE factor.)

<><><><><> <><><><><> Mark, There are lots of opinions on how to best maintain a battery. And it makes a difference on what kind of battery is being discussed. My suggestion for storing a bike for a year or more, regardless of the type of battery is to remove it from the bike, leave a note in the battery compartment with description of the battery required and then give the battery to someone that can use it. When you pull the bike out of storage put a new battery in it. If it's just for winter storage I leave the battery in the bike since all my bikes are stored in my heated shop. If a bike was going to be exposed to freezing temperatures and not ridden/used I'd suggest removing the battery and storing it fully charged in a cool place. Check it once a month with a voltmeter and top the charge as needed. When I store a battery over the winter I try to remember to measure the battery voltage every month or so. If it's at or below about 12.4 volts I'll put a battery tender on it for a day or two. I do not leave a battery tender on a battery for long periods of time. Revmaaatin and I had this conversation the other night in my shop. He and I are both going to need new batteries soon. We both use lead acid batteries bought at Walmart for about $35-40. I checked my records while he was here and I installed my current battery in April 2011. That is the shortest life of a battery I've experienced in quite a long while. For another bike I still have a battery I bought in fall of 1999 and it measures the same voltage (identical, how creepy is that???) of a similar AGM battery that was purchased just 3 years ago. When I say the same voltage I'm talking 12.74 volts on both batteries and they drop 0.01 volts within a day or so of each other. It takes a few months for the voltage to drop 0.01 volts on the AGM batteries when stored. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5034d7c93141d57c82ebest02vuc

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

I wouldn't waste my time. You can get a new AGM battery for $38 shipped these days. Buy a dry one and keep it on the shelf as a spare. This advice is coming from a tightwad-extraordinaire. Mark At 5:39 AM -0700 8/22/12, mark ward wrote: Say you have an extra deep cell or leaving a bike (etc.) stored for a couple of yrs. (2-5yr's?? Is there a way to prolong shelf life after, WE get them and they have been used?? Drain power & then Drain water? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]