wheel weights

[Kevin]

Last night I had a chance to ride my KLR for the first time in a while. Started right up, but died when I closed the choke lever. With the choke on it would bog at small throttle settings, but only stumble briefly if I wacked the throttle open and ran. I rode it for a half hour or so, but it didn't improve and the bike would stall if I closed the enricher. Guess I'll be pulling the carb for a cleaning. Or maybe try the "tilt the carb to the right" approach. Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds like the pilot jet? Kevin

[Jeff Saline]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:11:39 -0000 "Kevin" writes:

> Last night I had a chance to ride my KLR for the first time in a > while. Started right up, but died when I closed the choke lever. > With the choke on it would bog at small throttle settings, but only > stumble briefly if I wacked the throttle open and ran. I rode it > for a half hour or so, but it didn't improve and the bike would > stall if I closed the enricher. Guess I'll be pulling the carb for > a cleaning. Or maybe try the "tilt the carb to the right" > approach. > > Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it > sounds like the pilot jet? > > Kevin

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[k650@verizon.net]

I just had a similar issue. Would not start. Got it to run by holding the throttle open and could hold it running but as soon as I let off the throttle it would stall. Got it to idle by turning in the idle adjuster way in to hold the throttle open and it would start and run able to ride it. Of course this was not right but I wanted to fill the tank with premium gas and ride it some to see if it would clear out. After a couple days of short runs to bring it up to full temperature and getting the fresh fuel to flow and letting it sit overnight on the third day I started the engine and after about a minute running while I was suiting up all of a sudden the idle went up to 4000 RPM so I adjusted the idle screw back down to where it belongs. All is fine now. That last start up where it cleared itself out I was going to go to the auto parts store for some SeaFoam but did not need to. This was the first time I had a carb problem since new over 12 years ago. I attribute it to letting it sit a couple weeks with 90-100 degree heat and the crap ethanol gas. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 16:12 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Plugged idle jet? Last night I had a chance to ride my KLR for the first time in a while. Started right up, but died when I closed the choke lever. With the choke on it would bog at small throttle settings, but only stumble briefly if I wacked the throttle open and ran. I rode it for a half hour or so, but it didn't improve and the bike would stall if I closed the enricher. Guess I'll be pulling the carb for a cleaning. Or maybe try the "tilt the carb to the right" approach. Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds like the pilot jet? Kevin

[Jud]

You may well end up removing the carb, but before you do that, you might try some Yamaha carb cleaner, or some Sea Foam. mix about 50/50 with gasoline, fill the float bowl, and let it sit overnight. Sometimes the vapors will work on the varnish in the pilot jet to the point where it will pass fuel. If it doesn't work, you can still pull the carb. Just like in the emergency room, sometimes manual disimpaction is the only way.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin" wrote: > > Last night I had a chance to ride my KLR for the first time in a while. Started right up, but died when I closed the choke lever. With the choke on it would bog at small throttle settings, but only stumble briefly if I wacked the throttle open and ran. I rode it for a half hour or so, but it didn't improve and the bike would stall if I closed the enricher. Guess I'll be pulling the carb for a cleaning. Or maybe try the "tilt the carb to the right" approach. > > Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds like the pilot jet? > > Kevin >

[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

So, first Kevin posted:

> Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds

like the pilot jet? And Jud replied:

>You may well end up removing the carb, but before you do that, you might

try some Yamaha carb cleaner, +1 on the Yamaha brand carb cleaner, it has worked miracles for me. I've bought bikes that wouldn't run, used the Yamaha carb cleaner on 'em and they ran like new. One bottle has lasted me many, many years. Paul Streeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

CORN "GAS" After running Premium and sea foam my jets were still blocked. I removed the float bowl to find CRYSTALS, about 1/2 a teaspoon of them in the bowl. It sat for weeks with a few starts/restarts, and had the new gas and seafoam soaking in it all that time, to find the CRYSTALS in it. They felt like sand HARD so with the CORN GAS simple flushing does NOT work.

--- On Wed, 8/1/12, pdstreeter@... wrote: From: pdstreeter@... Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Plugged idle jet? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 1:00 PM So, first Kevin posted: > Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds like the pilot jet? And Jud replied: >You may well end up removing the carb, but before you do that, you might try some Yamaha carb cleaner, +1 on the Yamaha brand carb cleaner, it has worked miracles for me. I've bought bikes that wouldn't run, used the Yamaha carb cleaner on 'em and they ran like new. One bottle has lasted me many, many years. Paul Streeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

Mark Ward wrote:

>They felt like sand HARD so with the CORN GAS simple flushing does NOT

work. I beg to differ. Here in Minnesota, we've had 10% ethanol required for well over a decade. Sea Foam may not work, Yamaha brand carb cleaner does a great job. Paul Streeter Minnesota From: mark ward To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, pdstreeter@... Date: 08/01/2012 01:21 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Plugged idle jet? CORN "GAS" After running Premium and sea foam my jets were still blocked. I removed the float bowl to find CRYSTALS, about 1/2 a teaspoon of them in the bowl. It sat for weeks with a few starts/restarts, and had the new gas and seafoam soaking in it all that time, to find the CRYSTALS in it. They felt like sand HARD so with the CORN GAS simple flushing does NOT work.

--- On Wed, 8/1/12, pdstreeter@... wrote: From: pdstreeter@... Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Plugged idle jet? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 1:00 PM So, first Kevin posted: > Anyhow, before I trudge out to the hot garage, are we agreed it sounds like the pilot jet? And Jud replied: >You may well end up removing the carb, but before you do that, you might try some Yamaha carb cleaner, +1 on the Yamaha brand carb cleaner, it has worked miracles for me. I've bought bikes that wouldn't run, used the Yamaha carb cleaner on 'em and they ran like new. One bottle has lasted me many, many years. Paul Streeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

Nothing to add, just looking on with interest, but it was driving me nuts to see "wieghts" in the subject line, so I fixed it. Carry on.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote: > > > When I say we leave the old ones on initially, it's to avoid needlessly > removing weights. > 9 out of 10 times, *some* of the old weight get removed or moved. > I understand the distance factor is your main reason for asking and > still vote you have the balance checked at your earliest opportunity. > > Aside- Not all rims have the heaviest spot at the valve stem. > Example: Some Honda alloy rims come from the factory with a pale yellow > paint dot > somewhere along one side/edge. That's their heavy spot. > My Kia Soul auto rims had a little round decal doing the same thing. > The dot on the new tire is the lightest spot. Match dot to dot and balance > is a lot closer. > Mounting a tire on a rim with an unknown heavy spot - you'd put the tire > dots at the valve stem > and go from there. I've had some balance without weight and others that > required the > tire be rotated 180 degrees on a rim so as not have to add a ton of lead to > get it to balance. > You never know for sure without checking. > > eddie > > > > [Original Message] > > From: RANDY SULLIVAN > > To: > > Date: 8/3/2012 5:23:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] wheel wieghts > > > > in other words if i have the choice,,, run it with them on for a test > drive and if it good, great. if not pull the weight get them balanced as > soon as i can? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: transalp1@... > > To: "sulteck" > > Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 1:10:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] wheel wieghts > > > > The weights are there to balance both. When balancing a tire/rim combo > here at the shop, we often leave the old weights on before checking the > balance --- just in case they are close. But, more often than not, we have > to take them off and start over. In either case, some tires require more > weights than others. I'd have it checked as soon as you can. -eddie >