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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
I have started a new thread as it really is no longer about the KLR video....
Why I am asking about the stick epoxy, and Roberts excellent question/sugestion about the Devcon product is this:
On two of my KLR's, the pins (KHI 43044-1075)that support the rear brake pads are worn/goughed causing the pads to drag. link follows:
http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Rear_Brake/MakeID/3/Make/Kawasaki/YearID/39/Year/1998/ModelID/4505/Model/KLR650/GroupID/140060/Group/Rear_Brake
List $107.60/net $87.16 + s/h (fainting KiLeRista follows)
I am thinking: Build up the gouged pins and file it smooth.
Anyone here done such a thing?
I have been thinking the cure might be something like this product that MarkVH or RobertW has suggested. In previous conversation, it was suggested JBWeld was not really suitable for this kind of McGiver-ish repair.
The real problem begins at the design/manufacture: that the metal pins that support the brake pad are softer than the backing plate for the brake pads. Vertical vibration of the pad 'pounds' a divet in the pin, which then results in brake pad that does not slide across the pin smoothly. Eventually, the pad begins to pivot around the divot and the brake pad wears a severe angle, expiring early and possibly damaging the brake disc
A very sorry design, IMO.
Back to the original question: would using the Devcon products be an appropriate repair to the gouged pin # 43044?
revmaaatin.
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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
Quiksteel and most epoxies are good up to about 500 degrees. How hot you going to run your brakes?
Fred
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
From: revmaaatin
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:04 PM
To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
I have started a new thread as it really is no longer about the KLR video....
Why I am asking about the stick epoxy, and Roberts excellent question/sugestion about the Devcon product is this:
On two of my KLR's, the pins (KHI 43044-1075)that support the rear brake pads are worn/goughed causing the pads to drag. link follows:
http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Rear_Brake/MakeID/3/Make/Kawasaki/YearID/39/Year/1998/ModelID/4505/Model/KLR650/GroupID/140060/Group/Rear_Brake
List $107.60/net $87.16 + s/h (fainting KiLeRista follows)
I am thinking: Build up the gouged pins and file it smooth.
Anyone here done such a thing?
I have been thinking the cure might be something like this product that MarkVH or RobertW has suggested. In previous conversation, it was suggested JBWeld was not really suitable for this kind of McGiver-ish repair.
The real problem begins at the design/manufacture: that the metal pins that support the brake pad are softer than the backing plate for the brake pads. Vertical vibration of the pad 'pounds' a divet in the pin, which then results in brake pad that does not slide across the pin smoothly. Eventually, the pad begins to pivot around the divot and the brake pad wears a severe angle, expiring early and possibly damaging the brake disc
A very sorry design, IMO.
Back to the original question: would using the Devcon products be an appropriate repair to the gouged pin # 43044?
revmaaatin.
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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
Well, Devcon has a temperature rating and you can look it up, but if it
was me, I'd do a weld buildup on the pin and machine it to spec. You'd
have to find somebody with good technique, willing to work with you, but
I believe that it could be done.
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C
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On 6/13/2012 5:27 PM, Fred Hink wrote: > > Quiksteel and most epoxies are good up to about 500 degrees. How hot > you going to run your brakes? > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > From: revmaaatin > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:04 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin > > I have started a new thread as it really is no longer about the KLR > video.... > > Why I am asking about the stick epoxy, and Roberts excellent > question/sugestion about the Devcon product is this: > > On two of my KLR's, the pins (KHI 43044-1075)that support the rear > brake pads are worn/goughed causing the pads to drag. link follows: > > http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Rear_Brake/MakeID/3/Make/Kawasaki/YearID/39/Year/1998/ModelID/4505/Model/KLR650/GroupID/140060/Group/Rear_Brake > > List $107.60/net $87.16 + s/h (fainting KiLeRista follows) > > I am thinking: Build up the gouged pins and file it smooth. > Anyone here done such a thing? > > I have been thinking the cure might be something like this product > that MarkVH or RobertW has suggested. In previous conversation, it was > suggested JBWeld was not really suitable for this kind of McGiver-ish > repair. > > The real problem begins at the design/manufacture: that the metal pins > that support the brake pad are softer than the backing plate for the > brake pads. Vertical vibration of the pad 'pounds' a divet in the pin, > which then results in brake pad that does not slide across the pin > smoothly. Eventually, the pad begins to pivot around the divot and the > brake pad wears a severe angle, expiring early and possibly damaging > the brake disc > > A very sorry design, IMO. > > Back to the original question: would using the Devcon products be an > appropriate repair to the gouged pin # 43044? > > revmaaatin. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
I would:
1. weld a bead of actual steel onto the pin and then file it down.
or
2. turn the pins down and press-fit "sleeve" them with some metal
tubing, but I like option #1 better because it involves less
precision and doesn't involve any shopping.
Mark
At 12:04 AM +0000 6/14/12, revmaaatin wrote:
I am thinking: Build up the gouged pins and file it smooth.
Anyone here done such a thing?
Back to the original question: would using the Devcon products be an
appropriate repair to the gouged pin # 43044?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
Yup, and while the Devcon can probably take the heat, these kinds of
epoxies tend to me easily machinable, meaning the brake pad will
probably quickly file a grove.
Mark
At 6:54 PM -0700 6/13/12, RobertWichert wrote:
Well, Devcon has a temperature rating and you can look it up, but if it
was me, I'd do a weld buildup on the pin and machine it to spec. You'd
have to find somebody with good technique, willing to work with you, but
I believe that it could be done.
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sick epoxy to repair a brake caliper pin
Mark,
Your conclusion was similar to the 'local' wisdom as well. The (sic) liquid steel formula remain fairly soft and thus will not be hard enough to take the pounding/vertical vibration from the brake pad.
Thanks all for your thoughts.
revmaaatin.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > > Yup, and while the Devcon can probably take the heat, these kinds of > epoxies tend to me easily machinable, meaning the brake pad will > probably quickly file a grove. > > Mark > > > At 6:54 PM -0700 6/13/12, RobertWichert wrote: > > > Well, Devcon has a temperature rating and you can look it up, but if it > was me, I'd do a weld buildup on the pin and machine it to spec. You'd > have to find somebody with good technique, willing to work with you, but > I believe that it could be done. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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nklr any lawyers or leos in the bunch?
This should solve your problem. It's a DIY motion detector activated
sprinkler system. Just let everybody else know about it first!
http://www.unmaintained.com/index.php/spaghetti-ip-cam-arduino-motion-detect-sprinkler/
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