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				dropped socket
				Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:10 am
				by T2M
				When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
 maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
 guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to
 tighten it up.
 
    Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
 
    After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
 and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on
 for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
 out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer.
 
    Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
 
    For what it is worth.
 
			 
			
					
				dropped socket
				Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:23 am
				by RobertWichert
				Duh.  That's where it is, for sure.
 
 
 Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C
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 On 5/14/2012 8:09 AM, T2M wrote:
 >
 > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
 > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
 > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he 
 > went to
 > tighten it up.
 >
 > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
 >
 > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
 > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off 
 > and on
 > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
 > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly 
 > longer.
 >
 > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
 >
 > For what it is worth.
 >
 > 
 
 
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				dropped socket
				Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:14 pm
				by oldwing@cox.net
				This is more or less my next step.  Just want to try one more magnet that someone suggested and then will pull the cover.  I'm slow so it will take me longer then 5 min.
 Bill
 ---- T2M  wrote: 
 
 >    When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
 > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
 > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to
 > tighten it up.
 > 
 >    Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
 > 
 >    After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
 > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on
 > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
 > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer.
 > 
 >    Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
 > 
 >    For what it is worth.
 > 
 
  
--
 Bill Lewis
 Roanoke, Virginia
 Professor of Motorcycleology
 
 2004 R1150RT
 1990 R100RT         
 2002 KLR
 
 Expect The Unexpected
 
			 
			
					
				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:52 pm
				by oldwing@cox.net
				Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs.  Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case.  Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again.  Told you I was slow.
 
 Thanks for all the suggestions.
 Bill
 ---- T2M  wrote: 
 
 >    When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
 > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
 > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to
 > tighten it up.
 > 
 >    Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
 > 
 >    After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
 > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on
 > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
 > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer.
 > 
 >    Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
 > 
 >    For what it is worth.
 > 
 
  
--
 Bill Lewis
 Roanoke, Virginia
 Professor of Motorcycleology
 
 2004 R1150RT
 1990 R100RT         
 2002 KLR
 
 Expect The Unexpected
 
			 
			
					
				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:23 pm
				by Glenn Sturley
				Hi Bill,
 I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor!
 Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes!
 Well done on retrieving the wayward device.
 
 Regards
 Glenn
 
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: oldwing@... 
   To: T2M ; 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM
   Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket
 
 
     
   Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow.
 
   Thanks for all the suggestions.
   Bill
   ---- T2M  wrote: 
   > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
   > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
   > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to
   > tighten it up.
   > 
   > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
   > 
   > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
   > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on
   > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
   > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer.
   > 
   > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
   > 
   > For what it is worth.
   > 
 
   --
   Bill Lewis
   Roanoke, Virginia
   Professor of Motorcycleology
 
   2004 R1150RT
   1990 R100RT 
   2002 KLR
 
   Expect The Unexpected
 
 
 
   
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				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:02 pm
				by Jeff Saline
				On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:23:26 +1000 "Glenn Sturley" 
 writes:
 
 > Hi Bill,
 > I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. 
 > Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor!
 > Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on 
 > motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver 
 > and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff 
 > rags in holes!
 > Well done on retrieving the wayward device.
 > 
 > Regards
 > Glenn
  
<><><><><><>
 <><><><><><>
 
 Glenn,
 
 Those are some good ideas.  I also put a note on the rotor bolt hole
 (little cover installed) reminding me to install the cam chain tensioner
 before rotating the engine.
 
 It's not a bad idea to also note there may be rags in the engine on that
 same note and on the valve cover.  Nothing like sucking a rag deeper into
 the engine or putting the cover on over a rag or two.  : )
 
 Best,
 
 Jeff Saline
 ABC # 4412  South Dakota Airmarshal
 Airheads Beemer Club 
www.airheads.org
 The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650
 
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				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:47 pm
				by T2M
				Dang. I should have mentioned that. First thing the nephew did after I
 got the socket out, no prodding from me. Always have duct tape with you.
 
    For Bill,
 
    Welcome to the club of true mechanics. Those able to fix their own
 mistakes.
 
    After you have do various things a few times it gets quicker. I still
 remember the oil change on a 1978 used GS-750. It took me all day. Sweating
 everything the whole time. Read the manual three times perform the step,
 read the manual ... .
 
    Now who needs to drain the oil to take the left side cover off a KLR.
 Just lean it to the right against something. Though being slow and careful
 keeps the messes down sometimes. 

 
    Or at least so I have been told I would never get in too much of a hurry.
 
 
    Congratulations.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Glenn Sturley
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:23 PM
 To: 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket
 
 Hi Bill,
 I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing
 worse than dropping bits inside the motor!
 Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I
 will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence
 alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes!
 Well done on retrieving the wayward device.
 
 Regards
 Glenn
 
   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: oldwing@... 
   To: T2M ; 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM
   Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket
 
 
     
   Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left
 side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took
 me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all
 back up again. Told you I was slow.
 
   Thanks for all the suggestions.
   Bill
   ---- T2M  wrote: 
   > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
   > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
   > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went
 to
   > tighten it up.
   > 
   > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
   > 
   > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
   > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off
 and on
   > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
   > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly
 longer.
   > 
   > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
   > 
   > For what it is worth.
   > 
 
   --
   Bill Lewis
   Roanoke, Virginia
   Professor of Motorcycleology
 
   2004 R1150RT
   1990 R100RT 
   2002 KLR
 
   Expect The Unexpected
 
 
 
   
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www.avg.com
   Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12
 
 
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				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:58 pm
				by Craig Kahler
				Bill,
 In hind sight, did you see an easer way you could have gotten that socket out?
 Craig
 
 
 ________________________________
 From: Glenn Sturley 
 To: 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket
 
 
   
 Hi Bill,
 I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor!
 Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes!
 Well done on retrieving the wayward device.
 
 Regards
 Glenn
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: oldwing@... 
 To: T2M ; 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM
 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket
 
 Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow.
 
 Thanks for all the suggestions.
 Bill
 ---- T2M  wrote: 
 > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle
 > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain
 > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to
 > tighten it up.
 > 
 > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong?
 > 
 > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off
 > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on
 > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket
 > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer.
 > 
 > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR.
 > 
 > For what it is worth.
 > 
 
 --
 Bill Lewis
 Roanoke, Virginia
 Professor of Motorcycleology
 
 2004 R1150RT
 1990 R100RT 
 2002 KLR
 
 Expect The Unexpected
 
 No virus found in this message.
 Checked by AVG - 
www.avg.com
 Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12
 
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				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:17 pm
				by revmaaatin
				--- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 
 >
 > Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs.  Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case.  Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again.  Told you I was slow.
 > 
 > Thanks for all the suggestions.
 > Bill
 
  
Hmmm. 
 Are you sure you only dropped just one?
 Or did  you find the socket the PO dropped?
 revmaaatin.
 
			 
			
					
				dropped socket
				Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:32 pm
				by RobertWichert
				You are
 
 ONE
 
 SICK
 
 PUPPY
 
 
 
 Robert P Wichert, P.Eng LEED AP
 +1 916 966 9060
 FAX +1 916 966 9068
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On 5/15/2012 9:17 PM, revmaaatin wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
 > ,  wrote:
 > >
 > > Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the 
 > left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the 
 > case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and 
 > botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow.
 > >
 > > Thanks for all the suggestions.
 > > Bill
 >
 > Hmmm.
 > Are you sure you only dropped just one?
 > Or did you find the socket the PO dropped?
 > revmaaatin.
 >
 > 
 
 
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