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				breaking beads
				Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2000 4:41 pm
				by aches@deltech.net
				OK  what's the secret for breaking the tire bead on the trail.  The
 changing  out of my stock KLR rear tire was a tuff job on getting the
 bead broke until I rigged up a bead breaker. After  that it's a piece of
 cake. I generally use Simple Green to lube the tires and rim for re
 inflation.  Think it may be a good idea to buy a bead breaker for the
 trail or get a good C-clamp?
 
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 Best Regards & Happy Trails
 Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking
 Y2KLR650 @ 5.4K sMiles
 97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 14K Miles
 So Many Roads, So Little Time
 
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				breaking beads
				Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2000 8:57 pm
				by Karl Raupp
				> OK  what's the secret for breaking the tire bead on the trail.  The
 > changing  out of my stock KLR rear tire was a tuff job on getting 
  
the
 
 > bead broke until I rigged up a bead breaker. After  that it's a 
  
piece of
 
 > cake.
 
  
That is a dilema for being by yourself.  I got my stock Dunlop off 
 with no difficulty.  Last night I tried to change my Conti TKC-80 in 
 the garage using 2 18" irons and after cutting open my thumb in one 
 spot and getting a blood blister in another, I gave up.  I never 
 tried using any soapy water/simple green, etc on it, but it does make 
 sense.  I choose to wimp out and take the wheel to a local shop.  $15 
 (that's CDN too) got my new tire mounted and balanced (what a 
 deal!).  I plan to carry a tube of slime with me from now on, as a 
 just in case measure.
 
 TTYL
 Karl
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:55 am
				by Randy Shultz
				What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead 
 breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a large 
 C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution.
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:17 am
				by Tengai Mark Van Horn
				At 2:55 PM +0000 7/5/05, Randy Shultz wrote:
 
 >What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead
 >breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a large
 >C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution.
 
  
I use the sidestand at home and in the field. Works great.
 
 Mark
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:20 am
				by Randy Shultz
				Thanks Mark.  Never thought of that.  I welded a foot onto my sidestand 
 and it looks like it would be ideal for that purpose.
 
 Randy
 
 --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn 
  wrote:
 
 > At 2:55 PM +0000 7/5/05, Randy Shultz wrote:
 > >What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead
 > >breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a 
  
large
 
 > >C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution.
 > 
 > I use the sidestand at home and in the field. Works great.
 > 
 > Mark 
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:05 pm
				by Eric L. Green
				On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Randy Shultz wrote:
 
 > What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead
 > breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a large
 > C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution.
 
  
http://www.motionpro.com/new2005/products/04_080288.php
 
 The stock tool kit lacks a 22mm axle wrench for the front axle. Pricey but
 elegant solution: The MotionPro T6 axle wrench, which has a tire spoon on 
 the other side. I've successfully used this to break the bead on the Kenda 
 761 and the Kings KT-966 by simply inserting between the rim and tie tire, 
 putting a tire iron through the loop, and twisting. Repeat. Sometimes 
 dancing on the tire while twisting helps. Putting a bead stop or tire iron 
 at the first place I twist helps keep it from falling back. Sometimes much 
 cursing and ranting helps too. But eventually it does happen.
 
 It takes me about 30 minutes altogether to break the bead on both sides, 
 pop one side over the rim, change the tube, and put it back together. For 
 tools I use the above spoon/wrench, two 8-inch tire irons, and one 
 aluminum bead stop. I have trick valve caps on my bike that serve as valve 
 core removal tools, and a $9.95 Wal-mart foot pump and 99c tire gauge for 
 airing up my tire afterwards.
 
 -E
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:18 pm
				by Jud Jones
				--- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Shultz"  wrote:
 
 > What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead 
 > breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a large 
 > C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution.
 
  
The Motion Pro spoon works about 95% of the time. So does riding around on the flat tire, 
 but it risks further damage to the tube (if you are relying on patches) and it may carry you 
 away from a convenient changing spot. My buddy's sidestand also works, but I haven't yet 
 figured out a convenient way to apply my own stand to the bead with only one wheel on 
 the bike.
 
			 
			
					
				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:04 pm
				by Krgrife@aol.com
				--- In  
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Shultz"  wrote:
 
 >  What do you guys use to break your beads trailside?  I have a bead  
 > breaker but it weighs about five pounds.  I have been carrying a  large 
 > C clamp instead, but I was wondering if anyone had a better  solution.
 
 
  
So far my size 13 boot heel and my 285 lbs have always done the job.   I do 
 like the looks of the plastic "Beadpopper" that I have seen advertised  lately. 
  Doesn't weigh anything and there is always a rock to use for a  hammer.
 Kurt
 
 
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				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:35 pm
				by W.V. Doran
				I have a Beadpopper, it works like magic on the front
 tire and refuses to budge the rear tire. I've tried it
 on three different set of wheels mounted with D606's
 and Gripster's
 
 --- Krgrife@... wrote:
  
 
 > So far my size 13 boot heel and my 285 lbs have
 > always done the job.   I do 
 > like the looks of the plastic "Beadpopper" that I
 > have seen advertised  lately. 
 >  Doesn't weigh anything and there is always a rock
 > to use for a  hammer.
 > Kurt
 
 
 
  
WVDoran 
 Scottsdale, AZ
 
 
 		
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				breaking beads
				Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:03 pm
				by Pat Schmid
				--- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones"  wrote:
 
 > The Motion Pro spoon works about 95% of the time. So does riding
  
around on the flat tire, 
 
 > but it risks further damage to the tube (if you are relying on
  
patches) and it may carry you 
 
 > away from a convenient changing spot. My buddy's sidestand also
  
works, but I haven't yet 
 
 > figured out a convenient way to apply my own stand to the bead with
  
only one wheel on 
 
 > the bike.
 
  
I'd agree, by yourself the standstand is a bit difficult to use. I've
 been using the Motion Pro tire irons for years and the only thing I
 hjaven;t been able to get back off with them has been the notorious
 Gripster. 
 
 I do carry a cheat. To clean glasses, face sheilds and what I carry
 old nasal spray bottles filled with Windex, which I also use to apply
 a bit of soap to the tire bead to help it off and back on.
 
 Pat
 G'ville, NV