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> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: abelard23@... > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 03:24:36 -0600 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] I street raced a Bandido last night on my KLR > > OK, I am 61, been riding a long time, and was feeling sad about my wife who > I was visiting in a hospital. Went for a little late night ride after > leaving her at 1 am and found myself listening to a Harley next to me at a > light. I have not done this kind of shit since I was 40 sumpthin. He > blipped his throttle and I answered and we took off at the light. He beat > me to the next light, so we did it again. He beat me by not so much, but > the KLR did the coolest wheelie across the intersection. I had forgotten > how much fun street racing was. The Harley was pretty quick, but he should > have been embarrassed that my old KLR stayed so close. I can't tell the > wife what I was out doing, so I thought I would share it here. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > >

On 11/7/2011 9:35 AM, WEST HOVLAND wrote: > > > Now you know that racing is dangerous, illegal and you are being > totally...................................Cool! I love a good > in-your-face-right-back-at-ya story! I'm sure you both had a lot of > fun. There will be stories back at the club house how the mighty ape > hanger blew the doors off of some old fart on a dirtbike! > > West > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > From: abelard23@... > > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 03:24:36 -0600 > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] I street raced a Bandido last night on my KLR > > > > OK, I am 61, been riding a long time, and was feeling sad about my > wife who > > I was visiting in a hospital. Went for a little late night ride after > > leaving her at 1 am and found myself listening to a Harley next to > me at a > > light. I have not done this kind of shit since I was 40 sumpthin. He > > blipped his throttle and I answered and we took off at the light. He > beat > > me to the next light, so we did it again. He beat me by not so much, but > > the KLR did the coolest wheelie across the intersection. I had forgotten > > how much fun street racing was. The Harley was pretty quick, but he > should > > have been embarrassed that my old KLR stayed so close. I can't tell the > > wife what I was out doing, so I thought I would share it here. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > jealous of that, for sure. > > Good Work! > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Nov 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Horton Oliphant wrote: > One of the guys I used to work with had a 1200cc Sportster and said it > would beat it's bigger brothers in a roll on. He also had a big twin so > I figured he knew what he was talking about. > Alan Henderson A13 sidehack > > On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > > jealous of that, for sure. > > > > Good Work! > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 11/7/2011 2:28 PM, Ron Criswell wrote: > > I remember reading in a probably Cycle World maybe 10 or 15 years ago, > a guy put this big bore / stroker kit.....whatever in an 883 Sportster > and made it 1800 cc. He claimed he was getting sport bike type quarter > mile speeds with it and was beating and surprising some sport bike > guys at red lights. I think he had to modify the top of the frame and > tank some to make the taller engine fit but a casual glance you would > take it as just an old slow 883. The problem he had was the wimpy > swing arm was bending under the awesome torque. If I had all the money > and time I would build a street tracker along the lines of Harley's > flat track bikes using the 883 as a base as there are plenty of used > ones fairly cheap. > > And why did Honda quit making the 1800 VTX. Seemed like a monster > street cruiser? > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Horton Oliphant > > > wrote: > > > One of the guys I used to work with had a 1200cc Sportster and said it > > would beat it's bigger brothers in a roll on. He also had a big twin so > > I figured he knew what he was talking about. > > Alan Henderson A13 sidehack > > > > On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > > > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > > > > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > > > jealous of that, for sure. > > > > > > Good Work! > > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > A big 1200 cc Sportster is pretty fast, but the small ones are slower > than a KLR, based on the specs. Lots of Harleys take off as fast as > they can, but I am able to keep up pretty well. Scares them, I think. > I have gotten the jump on a few and beat them to the speed limit, and > then they are SURE to hit it hard at the next light. > > They don't wheelie like a KLR though. > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 11/7/2011 2:28 PM, Ron Criswell wrote: > > > > I remember reading in a probably Cycle World maybe 10 or 15 years ago, > > a guy put this big bore / stroker kit.....whatever in an 883 Sportster > > and made it 1800 cc. He claimed he was getting sport bike type quarter > > mile speeds with it and was beating and surprising some sport bike > > guys at red lights. I think he had to modify the top of the frame and > > tank some to make the taller engine fit but a casual glance you would > > take it as just an old slow 883. The problem he had was the wimpy > > swing arm was bending under the awesome torque. If I had all the money > > and time I would build a street tracker along the lines of Harley's > > flat track bikes using the 883 as a base as there are plenty of used > > ones fairly cheap. > > > > And why did Honda quit making the 1800 VTX. Seemed like a monster > > street cruiser? > > > > Criswell > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Horton Oliphant > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > One of the guys I used to work with had a 1200cc Sportster and said it > > > would beat it's bigger brothers in a roll on. He also had a big > twin so > > > I figured he knew what he was talking about. > > > Alan Henderson A13 sidehack > > > > > > On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > > > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > > > > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > > > > > > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > > > > jealous of that, for sure. > > > > > > > > Good Work! > > > > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Horton Oliphant" To: "klr" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:52:32 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] I street raced a Bandido last night on my KLR One of the guys I used to work with had a 1200cc Sportster and said it would beat it's bigger brothers in a roll on. He also had a big twin so I figured he knew what he was talking about. Alan Henderson A13 sidehack On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > jealous of that, for sure. > > Good Work! > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 11/7/2011 7:48 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > On paper, the 1200 Sportster should be the fastest Harley (excepting > the XR1200 and V-rod - uncommon models), when considering > power-to-weight ratio. > > Bone stock numbers: > > 1200 Sportster: 61RWHP @ 496lbs dry = 8.13 lbs/hp > vs. > Road King: 67RWHP @737lbs dry = 11 lbs/hp > > and, as a comparison (and an illustration of my point) > > KLR 650: 38RWHP @384lbs dry = 10.1 lbs/hp > Suzuki DL1000 (also a v-twin): 92RWHP @460lbs dry = 5 lbs/hp > Ducati Diavel (also a v-twin): 134RWHP @456lbs dry = 3.40 lbs/hp > Yamaha YZF-R1 : 142RWHP @ 390lbs dry = 2.74 lbs/hp > > So, depending on the rider, the KLR should run light-to-light quite > well with a big Harley. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Horton Oliphant" > > To: "klr" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:52:32 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] I street raced a Bandido last night on my KLR > > One of the guys I used to work with had a 1200cc Sportster and said it > would beat it's bigger brothers in a roll on. He also had a big twin so > I figured he knew what he was talking about. > Alan Henderson A13 sidehack > > On 11/7/2011 12:50 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > Harley's can be pretty fast, depending on the rider, but Sportsters > > should be easy to beat. He must have been on a big one. > > > > But he didn't do a wheelie across the intersection! I'm sure he is > > jealous of that, for sure. > > > > Good Work! > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]