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On the front wheel for my 1997 KLR, how many different spokes are used to build it? If you look at the OEM parts fiche on Ron Ayers they are listing 4 spoke part numbers: 41029, 41029A, 41029D and 41029E (see link below). BikeBandit lists only 41029 and 41029A (see link below). I have a wheel that is assembled and a replacement rim (mine's cracked) with a full set of spokes and they all look the same to me. Also, can you reuse spokes? My wheel builder is telling me they stretch and may need replacing. BikeBandit link: http://goo.gl/WfLcn Ron Ayers link: http://goo.gl/ahn70

You have 36 spokes on your front wheel. Spokes can be reused if they are not rusted to the nipples. The numbers you have listed are Reference Numbers and not Part Numbers. Why not go to the source and try Kawasaki s parts diagrams? Kawasaki reference numbers are usually a five digit number and the actual part number will be a five digit number with a four digit number. https://www.kawasakiepc.com/SSIConverted/2915543_110923_044515_5310.png Kawasaki lists the nipples separate and the part no. is 41032-1054. The spokes are listed for the left side at 41029-1165 and the right side as 41029-1166. You ll need 18 each and 36 nipples. Building a wheel isn t rocket science. Why not do it yourself? You can true the wheel on your forks. If you need pointers, just let me know. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: david.r.nichols@... Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:23 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Spoke question. On the front wheel for my 1997 KLR, how many different spokes are used to build it? If you look at the OEM parts fiche on Ron Ayers they are listing 4 spoke part numbers: 41029, 41029A, 41029D and 41029E (see link below). BikeBandit lists only 41029 and 41029A (see link below). I have a wheel that is assembled and a replacement rim (mine's cracked) with a full set of spokes and they all look the same to me. Also, can you reuse spokes? My wheel builder is telling me they stretch and may need replacing. BikeBandit link: http://goo.gl/WfLcn Ron Ayers link: http://goo.gl/ahn70 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I never built a wheel, but just on general principles, buy some spares. Related question: My spokes are corroded and the creams, lotions and jellies I've tried don't touch it. If I use emery cloth on them, will I damage any coating or finish that might be on them? Thanks- JWF

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > You have 36 spokes on your front wheel. Spokes can be reused if they are not rusted to the nipples. The numbers you have listed are Reference Numbers and not Part Numbers. Why not go to the source and try Kawasaki s parts diagrams? Kawasaki reference numbers are usually a five digit number and the actual part number will be a five digit number with a four digit number. > https://www.kawasakiepc.com/SSIConverted/2915543_110923_044515_5310.png > > Kawasaki lists the nipples separate and the part no. is 41032-1054. The spokes are listed for the left side at 41029-1165 and the right side as 41029-1166. You ll need 18 each and 36 nipples. > > Building a wheel isn t rocket science. Why not do it yourself? You can true the wheel on your forks. If you need pointers, just let me know. > > Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > From: david.r.nichols@... > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:23 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Spoke question. > > > On the front wheel for my 1997 KLR, how many different spokes are used to build it? If you look at the OEM parts fiche on Ron Ayers they are listing 4 spoke part numbers: 41029, 41029A, 41029D and 41029E (see link below). BikeBandit lists only 41029 and 41029A (see link below). I have a wheel that is assembled and a replacement rim (mine's cracked) with a full set of spokes and they all look the same to me. Also, can you reuse spokes? My wheel builder is telling me they stretch and may need replacing. > > BikeBandit link: > http://goo.gl/WfLcn > > Ron Ayers link: > http://goo.gl/ahn70 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Corroded? Depends on how heavily. But, when it's "just" your wheel's structural integrity we're dealing with, my vote is for a new set of spokes. Sorta like, "This parachute patch ought to hold." eddie

> [Original Message] > From: JWF > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 9/23/2011 5:51:22 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question.

I never built a wheel, but just on general principles, buy some spares.

> Related question: My spokes are corroded and the creams, lotions

and jellies I've tried don't touch it. If I use emery cloth on them, will I damage any coating or finish that might be on them? Thanks- JWF

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Thanks Fred, I've lost confidence in this guy since he told me I needed to buy spokes because they stretch. I have two sets and I'm sure that between them I'll have enough good spokes. And thanks for the offer of support, I am now going to try to build a wheel. That will save me $80+... I was going to have him adjust my valves also, but now I'm thinking I will do that also. -David ________________________________ From: Fred Hink To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; david.r.nichols@... Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Spoke question. You have 36 spokes on your front wheel. Spokes can be reused if they are not rusted to the nipples. The numbers you have listed are Reference Numbers and not Part Numbers. Why not go to the source and try Kawasaki s parts diagrams? Kawasaki reference numbers are usually a five digit number and the actual part number will be a five digit number with a four digit number. https://www.kawasakiepc.com/SSIConverted/2915543_110923_044515_5310.png Kawasaki lists the nipples separate and the part no. is 41032-1054. The spokes are listed for the left side at 41029-1165 and the right side as 41029-1166. You ll need 18 each and 36 nipples. Building a wheel isn t rocket science. Why not do it yourself? You can true the wheel on your forks. If you need pointers, just let me know. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: david.r.nichols@... Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:23 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Spoke question. On the front wheel for my 1997 KLR, how many different spokes are used to build it? If you look at the OEM parts fiche on Ron Ayers they are listing 4 spoke part numbers: 41029, 41029A, 41029D and 41029E (see link below). BikeBandit lists only 41029 and 41029A (see link below). I have a wheel that is assembled and a replacement rim (mine's cracked) with a full set of spokes and they all look the same to me. Also, can you reuse spokes? My wheel builder is telling me they stretch and may need replacing. BikeBandit link: http://goo.gl/WfLcn Ron Ayers link: http://goo.gl/ahn70 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The new spokes and nipples would cost $143 for the OEM parts, I'd think stainless ones would be pricier... I bought the entire bike for $400, the rim used for $40, so I really can't see spending that much for spokes when I can see they aren't corroded. After I stripped the bike down it looks very clean. I don't think it's ever been off road. Here is a photo of it: http://flic.kr/p/apNKFS ________________________________ From: "Cox, John" To: "transalp1@..." ; KLR650 list DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; "david.r.nichols@..." Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. I ve never seen a spoked wheel come apart even when the spokes were super rusty. That said, if you re going to rebuild the wheel with a new rim anyway why not throw in some new stainless steel spokes? Very Respectfully, John Cox From:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eddie Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:59 PM To: KLR650 list Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. Corroded? Depends on how heavily. But, when it's "just" your wheel's structural integrity we're dealing with, my vote is for a new set of spokes. Sorta like, "This parachute patch ought to hold." eddie

> [Original Message] > From: JWF > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 9/23/2011 5:51:22 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question.

I never built a wheel, but just on general principles, buy some spares.

> Related question: My spokes are corroded and the creams, lotions

and jellies I've tried don't touch it. If I use emery cloth on them, will I damage any coating or finish that might be on them? Thanks- JWF

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Kind of looks "cool" all stripped down like that. Goes to show how much the plastic, seat, and tank bulk it up. Gives me ideas. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Nichols wrote: > > The new spokes and nipples would cost $143 for the OEM parts, I'd think stainless ones would be pricier... > I bought the entire bike for $400, the rim used for $40, so I really can't see spending that much for spokes when I can see they aren't corroded. > > After I stripped the bike down it looks very clean. I don't think it's ever been off road. > > Here is a photo of it: > http://flic.kr/p/apNKFS > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Cox, John" > To: "transalp1@..." ; KLR650 list DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; "david.r.nichols@..." > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:04 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > > > I ve never seen a spoked wheel come apart even when the spokes were super rusty. > > That said, if you re going to rebuild the wheel with a new rim anyway why not throw in some new stainless steel spokes? > > > Very Respectfully, > > John Cox > > From:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eddie > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:59 PM > To: KLR650 list > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > > > > Corroded? > Depends on how heavily. But, when it's "just" your wheel's structural > integrity we're dealing with, > my vote is for a new set of spokes. Sorta like, "This parachute patch ought > to hold." > > eddie > > > [Original Message] > > From: JWF > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: 9/23/2011 5:51:22 PM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > I never built a wheel, but just on general principles, buy some spares. > > Related question: My spokes are corroded and the creams, lotions > and jellies I've tried don't touch it. If I use emery cloth on them, will > I damage any coating or finish that might be on them? Thanks- JWF > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

I have seen top end drills (powered) where you can clearly see the cord has been cut but the listing indicates works fine! People would sell their sweat on EBay if someone bid on it!

> > I saw that! I think they have confused this part with another bike > they are parting out... > I actually asked them a question about the 03 air box they are > selling... now I wonder if the air box is actually a KLR part > > LOL > > ________________________________ > From: Jeffrey > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:36 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fraudulent KLR650 Ebay listings > > > Dear nakedwaterskier, > > The 03 has one. > > - ibuyatvs > > From: nakedwaterskier > To: ibuyatvs > Subject: Details about item: nakedwaterskier sent a message about 03 > Kawasaki KLR650 KLR 650 Seat Latch Lever #370543330637 > Sent Date: Sep-27-11 08:50:37 PDT > > Dear ibuyatvs, > > THERE IS NO SEAT LATCH LEVER ASSEMBLY ON KLR650s > DELIST SH*ITHEAD! > > - nakedwaterskier > > You will also see bank angle sensors > > 03 Kawasaki KLR650 KLR 650 Seat Latch Lever > 03 Kawasaki KLR650 KLR 650 Seat Latch Lever > Item Id: 370543330637 > End time: Oct-15-11 17:00:05 PDT > Seller: > > ibuyatvs (7238) > 99.6% Positive Feedback > Member since Jan-07-01 in United States > Location: MO, United States > Listing Status: This message was sent while the listing was active. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

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Hey David- If you're still looking, there's these people for SS spokes. I haven't dealt with them other than to email a question and get a prompt, polite but not helpful answer about what shade of yellow the steel nipples are. The least expensive spokes for KLRs are $70 per wheel, with your choice of alloy nipples or the "yellow zinc plated steel" ones. Shipping seems to be free. Extra bucks for oversize spokes, colored spokes, etc. And they have trick looking hubs, and full wheel assemblies. If you buy anything, let us know how it goes. -JWF Rad Manufacturing: http://www.radmfg.com/category-s/10473.htm?searching=Y&sort=1&cat=10473&show=10&page=1

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Nichols wrote: > > The new spokes and nipples would cost $143 for the OEM parts, I'd think stainless ones would be pricier... > I bought the entire bike for $400, the rim used for $40, so I really can't see spending that much for spokes when I can see they aren't corroded. > > After I stripped the bike down it looks very clean. I don't think it's ever been off road. > > Here is a photo of it: > http://flic.kr/p/apNKFS > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Cox, John" > To: "transalp1@..." ; KLR650 list DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; "david.r.nichols@..." > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:04 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > > > I ve never seen a spoked wheel come apart even when the spokes were super rusty. > > That said, if you re going to rebuild the wheel with a new rim anyway why not throw in some new stainless steel spokes? > > > Very Respectfully, > > John Cox > > From:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eddie > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:59 PM > To: KLR650 list > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > > > > Corroded? > Depends on how heavily. But, when it's "just" your wheel's structural > integrity we're dealing with, > my vote is for a new set of spokes. Sorta like, "This parachute patch ought > to hold." > > eddie > > > [Original Message] > > From: JWF > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: 9/23/2011 5:51:22 PM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Spoke question. > I never built a wheel, but just on general principles, buy some spares. > > Related question: My spokes are corroded and the creams, lotions > and jellies I've tried don't touch it. If I use emery cloth on them, will > I damage any coating or finish that might be on them? Thanks- JWF > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >