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new? chain lube

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:17 pm
by mark ward
Hey ALL NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even after talking to there Tech. But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

new? chain lube

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:34 pm
by Marc
WD40 is an oil. A light one but an oil. The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented to avoid completely disclosing its ingredients.[2] [3]WD-40's main ingredients, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: * 50%: Stoddard solvent (i.e., mineral spirits primarily hexane, somewhat similar to kerosene) * 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant; carbon dioxide is now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability) * 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil) * 10-%: Inert ingredients The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients: * 60 80%: Heavy Naphtha (petroleum product), hydrogen treated * 1 5%: Carbon dioxide ________________________________ From: mark ward To: List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:17:18 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube Hey ALL NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even after talking to there Tech. But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

new? chain lube

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:57 pm
by Jeff Khoury
The folks over at Wired Mag ran a bit of it through a spectrometer. Here are the results: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside -Jeff Khoury From: "Marc" To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:33:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube WD40 is an oil. A light one but an oil. The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented to avoid completely disclosing its ingredients.[2] [3]WD-40's main ingredients, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: * 50%: Stoddard solvent (i.e., mineral spirits primarily hexane, somewhat similar to kerosene) * 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant; carbon dioxide is now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability) * 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil) * 10-%: Inert ingredients The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients: * 60 80%: Heavy Naphtha (petroleum product), hydrogen treated * 1 5%: Carbon dioxide ________________________________ From: mark ward < nomad59@... > To: List KLR < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:17:18 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube Hey ALL NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even after talking to there Tech. But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

new? chain lube

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:19 pm
by Jeff Khoury
I use two chain lubes, depending on application. I always clean with WD-40, then: Dry/Dusty/General use: 90w-140 gear oil, I use a 3-in-1 household oil bottle repurposed to apply it. Just a drop on each o-ring and on a couple of rollers. I avoid anything sticky so dirt and stuff doesn't make a gritty paste. Wet weather: a light coat of waterproof marine grease - you know... the sticky blue stuff. Both of these lubes are dirt cheap compared to the stuff sold at the bike shop and it seems to work at least as well. I get excellent life out of my chains. Frankly, I think the cleaning part is just as, if not more important than the lubing part when we're talking about sealed chains. -Jeff Khoury From: "Jeff Khoury" To: "Marc" Cc: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:25:30 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube The folks over at Wired Mag ran a bit of it through a spectrometer. Here are the results: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside -Jeff Khoury From: "Marc" < marchaug2000@... > To: "List KLR" < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:33:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube WD40 is an oil. A light one but an oil. The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented to avoid completely disclosing its ingredients.[2] [3]WD-40's main ingredients, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: * 50%: Stoddard solvent (i.e., mineral spirits primarily hexane, somewhat similar to kerosene) * 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant; carbon dioxide is now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability) * 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil) * 10-%: Inert ingredients The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients: * 60 80%: Heavy Naphtha (petroleum product), hydrogen treated * 1 5%: Carbon dioxide ________________________________ From: mark ward < nomad59@... > To: List KLR < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:17:18 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube Hey ALL NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even after talking to there Tech. But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

new? chain lube

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:35 pm
by Marc
I use only Dupont chain lube. It stay put, lasts for a long time and does the job. That said, I agree that cleaning is an important step. M ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: Marc Cc: List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:47:34 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube I use two chain lubes, depending on application. I always clean with WD-40, then: Dry/Dusty/General use: 90w-140 gear oil, I use a 3-in-1 household oil bottle repurposed to apply it. Just a drop on each o-ring and on a couple of rollers. I avoid anything sticky so dirt and stuff doesn't make a gritty paste. Wet weather: a light coat of waterproof marine grease - you know... the sticky blue stuff. Both of these lubes are dirt cheap compared to the stuff sold at the bike shop and it seems to work at least as well. I get excellent life out of my chains. Frankly, I think the cleaning part is just as, if not more important than the lubing part when we're talking about sealed chains. -Jeff Khoury ________________________________ From: "Jeff Khoury" To: "Marc" Cc: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:25:30 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube The folks over at Wired Mag ran a bit of it through a spectrometer. Here are the results: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside -Jeff Khoury From: "Marc" To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:33:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube WD40 is an oil. A light one but an oil. The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented to avoid completely disclosing its ingredients.[2] [3]WD-40's main ingredients, according to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: * 50%: Stoddard solvent (i.e., mineral spirits primarily hexane, somewhat similar to kerosene) * 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant; carbon dioxide is now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability) * 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil) * 10-%: Inert ingredients The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following safety-relevant ingredients: * 60 80%: Heavy Naphtha (petroleum product), hydrogen treated * 1 5%: Carbon dioxide ________________________________ From: mark ward < nomad59@... > To: List KLR < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:17:18 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube Hey ALL NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even after talking to there Tech. But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

new? chain lube

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:46 am
by Jud
How long do your chains last? That stuff has recently become more readily available, and I just bought a can. But there doesn't seem to be any chain life data on it, even anecdotal, as there is for WD40.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Marc wrote: > > I use only Dupont chain lube. It stay put, lasts for a long time and does the > job. That said, I agree that cleaning is an important step. > > M > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeff Khoury > To: Marc > Cc: List KLR DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:47:34 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube > > > I use two chain lubes, depending on application. > > I always clean with WD-40, then: > > Dry/Dusty/General use: 90w-140 gear oil, I use a 3-in-1 household oil bottle > repurposed to apply it. Just a drop on each o-ring and on a couple of rollers. > I avoid anything sticky so dirt and stuff doesn't make a gritty paste. > > Wet weather: a light coat of waterproof marine grease - you know... the sticky > blue stuff. > > Both of these lubes are dirt cheap compared to the stuff sold at the bike shop > and it seems to work at least as well. > > I get excellent life out of my chains. Frankly, I think the cleaning part is > just as, if not more important than the lubing part when we're talking about > sealed chains. > > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ________________________________ > From: "Jeff Khoury" > To: "Marc" > Cc: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:25:30 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube > > > The folks over at Wired Mag ran a bit of it through a spectrometer. Here are the > results: > > > http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/st_whatsinside > > -Jeff Khoury > > From: "Marc" > To: "List KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:33:57 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube > > WD40 is an oil. A light one but an oil. > > The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on > the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture. > WD-40's formula is a trade secret. The product is not patented to avoid > completely disclosing its ingredients.[2] [3]WD-40's main ingredients, according > > to U.S. Material Safety Data Sheet information, are: > * 50%: Stoddard solvent (i.e., mineral spirits " primarily hexane, somewhat > similar to kerosene) > * 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant; carbon dioxide is > now used instead to reduce WD-40's considerable flammability) > * 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil) > * 10-%: Inert ingredients > The German version of the mandatory EU safety sheet lists the following > safety-relevant ingredients: > * 60 "80%: Heavy Naphtha (petroleum product), hydrogen treated > * 1 "5%: Carbon dioxide > > ________________________________ > From: mark ward < nomad59@... > > To: List KLR < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 1:17:18 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NEW? Chain lube > > Hey ALL > > NOT to start anouther thread............unless! HUMOR is included. LOL There ad > says "NEW" so I thought I would let ya know. > > PB Blaster know for penetrents, now has PB50 an "ALL-purpose" Lubricant in a > small 3oz. spray can. $1.98 at Homedepot. > > It's light weight, and petroliom, but what weight I could not find out even > after talking to there Tech. > > But compared to WD40, a penetrent, This IS an oil. > And what I like, is it's small for packing on long trips.. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

nklr safety videos

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:37 am
by Fred Hink
Very good collection. Hope everyone watches these. I have posted this link to my Facebook. Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: jguarfn28 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:06 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR Safety Videos Ducati's website has this great collection of motorcycle safety videos that I thought were worth sharing with the list. This is the address: http://www.ducati.com/safety/best_campaigns.do?nl=1 Most are funny, all have valid points, well expressed. ATGATT for your family. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]