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side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:54 pm
by Monty
Hey guys,
I am working on bypassing the kickstand and neutral safety start switch. I would like to also eliminate the interlock diode unit (just something else to go wrong). According to the KLR FAQ the "running safety" circuits can be bypassed by grounding the red/black wire coming from the CDI unit, but this has not been confirmed.
Has anyone done this? I am on a 2009 bike.
Thanks!
Monty
side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:29 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:54:14 -0000 "Monty"
writes:
> Hey guys,
>
> I am working on bypassing the kickstand and neutral safety start
> switch. I would like to also eliminate the interlock diode unit
> (just something else to go wrong). According to the KLR FAQ the
> "running safety" circuits can be bypassed by grounding the red/black
> wire coming from the CDI unit, but this has not been confirmed.
>
> Has anyone done this? I am on a 2009 bike.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Monty
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Monty,
I've got no experience to speak about on the new bikes but have been told
the ignition system is different than the pre 08 models. One example is
the older bikes can be started without a battery and the new bikes can't.
Hopefully someone can confirm the by pass you are asking about. I'd like
to know the answer too.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
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The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
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side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:15 pm
by mark ward
WHAT is the Interlock diode?
--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Monty wrote:
From: Monty
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Side stand/starter lockout bypass
To:
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Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 8:54 PM
Hey guys,
I am working on bypassing the kickstand and neutral safety start switch. I would like to also eliminate the interlock diode unit (just something else to go wrong). According to the KLR FAQ the "running safety" circuits can be bypassed by grounding the red/black wire coming from the CDI unit, but this has not been confirmed.
Has anyone done this? I am on a 2009 bike.
Thanks!
Monty
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side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:04 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:09:12 -0700 (PDT) mark ward
writes:
WHAT is the Interlock diode?
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Mark,
I think the interlock diode is a trio of diodes designed to limit starter
and ignition operation to a couple of conditions. I think I have the
conditions properly list below but someone please correct any errors.
For the starter, it should only energize when the clutch is pulled in if
the transmission is in gear OR when the transmission is in neutral. I
don't think it will prohibit operation of the starter if the engine is
running but I'm not about to press the starter switch on my KLR to
verify. : )
For the ignition, it should only work when the clutch is pulled in when
the transmission is in gear when the side stand is down, OR anytime the
side stand is up OR when the transmission is in neutral regardless of
clutch or side stand position.
The diode trio allows the neutral switch, side stand switch and starter
circuit relay to connect electrically and not send (backfeed) electricity
into the "other" electrically attached circuits.
Diodes are like one way electrical valves. Power may move one direction
but not the other direction.
Many KLR owners disable the side stand switch and clutch switch so the
starter will operate in any condition and the engine will operate if the
bike is in gear with the side stand down and the clutch out. Removing
the diode trio if done properly would allow similar operation eliminating
a potential failure point.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
.
.
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side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:42 am
by Flower Jamie
Jeff- Thanks for the info. Does it apply to the old models as well as the new?
side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:12 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:42:29 -0700 Flower Jamie
writes:
> Jeff- Thanks for the info. Does it apply to the old models as well
> as the new?
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Jamie,
I was basing that off the old bikes. But I'd guess it was the same on
the new models too.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
.
.
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side stand/starter lockout bypass
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:19 pm
by klrdon@comcast.net
Jeff, that is one eloquent reply! Thanks for the write up.
Don M
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Saline
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:01 AM
To: nomad59@...
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Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Side stand/starter lockout bypass
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:09:12 -0700 (PDT) mark ward
writes:
WHAT is the Interlock diode?
<><><><><><>
<><><><><><>
Mark,
I think the interlock diode is a trio of diodes designed to limit starter
and ignition operation to a couple of conditions. I think I have the
conditions properly list below but someone please correct any errors.
For the starter, it should only energize when the clutch is pulled in if
the transmission is in gear OR when the transmission is in neutral. I
don't think it will prohibit operation of the starter if the engine is
running but I'm not about to press the starter switch on my KLR to
verify. : )
For the ignition, it should only work when the clutch is pulled in when
the transmission is in gear when the side stand is down, OR anytime the
side stand is up OR when the transmission is in neutral regardless of
clutch or side stand position.
The diode trio allows the neutral switch, side stand switch and starter
circuit relay to connect electrically and not send (backfeed) electricity
into the "other" electrically attached circuits.
Diodes are like one way electrical valves. Power may move one direction
but not the other direction.
Many KLR owners disable the side stand switch and clutch switch so the
starter will operate in any condition and the engine will operate if the
bike is in gear with the side stand down and the clutch out. Removing
the diode trio if done properly would allow similar operation eliminating
a potential failure point.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
.
.
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thank you, fred hink!
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:53 pm
by klrdon@comcast.net
Isn't this a great forum! Would you post the part # and drill size when you
have it finished?
And...why does Kawasaki do this to us????
Don M
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From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:34 PM
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Thank you, Fred Hink!
Just a brief note to thank Fred for a bit of extraordinary service. After
disassembling my carb in hopes of getting to the root of some problems, I
discovered a tiny hole in the diaphragm. My local dealer wanted $140 for a
new one. I called Fred, who quoted an identical price, and explained that
part of the cost was because the diaphragm and slider came assembled
together. Then he said, "On the other hand, you may want to call your
Harley dealer, and ask for a diaphragm for a Sportster. They'll sell you
one for $40, and all you need to do is drill one hole in the slider a little
larger."
My new diaphragm is on order and should arrive this week. Thanks, Fred, for
saving me some money and teaching me something at the same time!
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