nklr - gps recommendations/???

[Jim]

Thinking about picking up a GPS. Something handheld, and cheap. Found a Magellan Meridian bundle deal with unit, detail map CD, power cord (would like to power from bike vs. batteries) for around $300. I'm sure I can find some deals on eBay as well. Was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience and recommendations. Color's not important, more concerned with waterproof/ruggedness Not looking for anything super complicated - basically something that could point me to gas stations, or point me home when I get out wandering. ------------------------------------------ jim - A12 - somewhere in central NC

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-07-27 5:53:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, klr650@... writes:

> > Thinking about picking up a GPS. Something handheld, and cheap. > > Found a Magellan Meridian bundle deal with unit, detail map CD, > power cord (would like to power from bike vs. batteries) for around > $300. I'm sure I can find some deals on eBay as well. > > Was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience and > recommendations. Color's not important, more concerned with > waterproof/ruggedness Not looking for anything super complicated > - basically something that could point me to gas stations, or point me > home when I get out wandering. > >

I'm happy with my Garmin eTrex. Comes in several flavors depending on the features and memory you want. Do a google search as there are dealers that seriously discount these units. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Bowden]

Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and backroads. David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[spike55_bmw]

How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're "packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, especially when going through towns. My two-cents Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > backroads. > > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[stuart sullivan]

Don are the Garmin etrex waterproof and how did you mount yours? Thanks Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: spike55_bmw@... Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:48:13 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're "packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, especially when going through towns. My two-cents Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > backroads. > > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[spike55_bmw]

Yes, waterproof in the rain but I don't know about swimming. I don't shy away from riding in the rain. When you buy the HCx GPS, it comes with a screw-on clip that threads into the battery hatch (I used blue Loctite on the threads - good for the goose [KLR], good for the gander [GPS]). The stupid part comes next. The handlebar mounted base is bought separately and it comes with another eTrex battery hatch but the hatch is too narrow for the fat HCx (color screen). The hatch is for the original mono-color, buttom-of-the-line, eTrex Legend (blue case) that is not suitable for the motorcycle, other than a recording "where you've been" device. The handlebar mount is for a standard diameter (7/8", etc - bicycle) and comes with a strip of rubber to both grip the bar and to be a shock absorber. I've mounted mine on the left-side of the cross-brace on the handlebar and used a piece of Tygon (clear plastic) tubing to beef-up that cross-brace to the 7/8" diameter and then mounted the Garmin bracket on it. I also have the lanyard on the GPS and initially loop it over the mirror stalk (right-side) before clipping the GPS into the handlebar mounted base. This extra safety strap saved my GPS from a high-speed drop when I didn't properly clip it to the handlebar mount and it bounced out. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > Don are the Garmin etrex waterproof and how did you mount yours? > > Thanks Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:48:13 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're "packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. > > > > I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. > > > > I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, especially when going through towns. > > > > My two-cents > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > > > > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > > > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > > > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > > > backroads. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[stuart sullivan]

Ok thanks Don,you kinda lost me in the modals there not hard to do at my age,so what is the exact modal # of yours so i don't get the wrong one, i know there are specific motorcycle modals but the price is way more than i want to pay, $600 and up "Why",with the price of gas where it's going i think I'll be riding a few more years yet God willing,no I'm not religious. Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: spike55_bmw@... Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:14:01 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations Yes, waterproof in the rain but I don't know about swimming. I don't shy away from riding in the rain. When you buy the HCx GPS, it comes with a screw-on clip that threads into the battery hatch (I used blue Loctite on the threads - good for the goose [KLR], good for the gander [GPS]). The stupid part comes next. The handlebar mounted base is bought separately and it comes with another eTrex battery hatch but the hatch is too narrow for the fat HCx (color screen). The hatch is for the original mono-color, buttom-of-the-line, eTrex Legend (blue case) that is not suitable for the motorcycle, other than a recording "where you've been" device. The handlebar mount is for a standard diameter (7/8", etc - bicycle) and comes with a strip of rubber to both grip the bar and to be a shock absorber. I've mounted mine on the left-side of the cross-brace on the handlebar and used a piece of Tygon (clear plastic) tubing to beef-up that cross-brace to the 7/8" diameter and then mounted the Garmin bracket on it. I also have the lanyard on the GPS and initially loop it over the mirror stalk (right-side) before clipping the GPS into the handlebar mounted base. This extra safety strap saved my GPS from a high-speed drop when I didn't properly clip it to the handlebar mount and it bounced out. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > Don are the Garmin etrex waterproof and how did you mount yours? > > Thanks Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:48:13 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're "packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. > > > > I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. > > > > I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, especially when going through towns. > > > > My two-cents > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > > > > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > > > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > > > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > > > backroads. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[spike55_bmw]

I'm using the Garmin eTrex Legend HCx. They run less than $180. It is a battery-powered handheld unit. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > Ok thanks Don,you kinda lost me in the modals there not hard to do at my age,so what is the exact modal # of yours so i don't get the wrong one, i know there are specific motorcycle modals but the price is way more than i want to pay, $600 and up "Why",with the price of gas where it's going i think I'll be riding a few more years yet God willing,no I'm not religious. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:14:01 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, waterproof in the rain but I don't know about swimming. I don't shy away from riding in the rain. > > > > When you buy the HCx GPS, it comes with a screw-on clip that threads into the battery hatch (I used blue Loctite on the threads - good for the goose [KLR], good for the gander [GPS]). The stupid part comes next. The handlebar mounted base is bought separately and it comes with another eTrex battery hatch but the hatch is too narrow for the fat HCx (color screen). The hatch is for the original mono-color, buttom-of-the-line, eTrex Legend (blue case) that is not suitable for the motorcycle, other than a recording "where you've been" device. > > > > The handlebar mount is for a standard diameter (7/8", etc - bicycle) and comes with a strip of rubber to both grip the bar and to be a shock absorber. I've mounted mine on the left-side of the cross-brace on the handlebar and used a piece of Tygon (clear plastic) tubing to beef-up that cross-brace to the 7/8" diameter and then mounted the Garmin bracket on it. > > > > I also have the lanyard on the GPS and initially loop it over the mirror stalk (right-side) before clipping the GPS into the handlebar mounted base. This extra safety strap saved my GPS from a high-speed drop when I didn't properly clip it to the handlebar mount and it bounced out. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > > Don are the Garmin etrex waterproof and how did you mount yours? > > > > > > Thanks Stu. > > > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > From: spike55_bmw@ > > > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:48:13 +0000 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're "packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, especially when going through towns. > > > > > > > > > > > > My two-cents > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > > > > > > > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > > > > > > > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > > > > > > > backroads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[E Hines]

I like the garmin 60CSX and the 76CSX. Both are battery powered, but also have wire connection ability. They are older models, but have all the features (except touch screen). I have the 76csx and have both TOPO and street maps on it (4g SD card with lots of room for more). They can be viewed in the daylight and at night. The 60csx has a better antenna. They are both small and fit on the handlebars and are waterproof up to 7' of water (according to garmin). Mine has seen a foot of water (don't ask) and alot of rain and still works great. It has also seen two get offs and never came off the bike. One of the get offs was not as good for me. If you look around you can find new or refurbs for under $200.00. I got mine at the clearance section at Cabela's 3years ago for $188.00 (I stole it). Cabela's in Fort Worth has the mounts for these on clearance also, in the outlet section. If you take the bike off-road and can not afford the 550 or higher these are great GPS units. ________________________________ From: stuart sullivan To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 11:08:02 PM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations Ok thanks Don,you kinda lost me in the modals there not hard to do at my age,so what is the exact modal # of yours so i don't get the wrong one, i know there are specific motorcycle modals but the price is way more than i want to pay, $600 and up "Why",with the price of gas where it's going i think I'll be riding a few more years yet God willing,no I'm not religious. Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: spike55_bmw@... Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:14:01 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations Yes, waterproof in the rain but I don't know about swimming. I don't shy away from riding in the rain. When you buy the HCx GPS, it comes with a screw-on clip that threads into the battery hatch (I used blue Loctite on the threads - good for the goose [KLR], good for the gander [GPS]). The stupid part comes next. The handlebar mounted base is bought separately and it comes with another eTrex battery hatch but the hatch is too narrow for the fat HCx (color screen). The hatch is for the original mono-color, buttom-of-the-line, eTrex Legend (blue case) that is not suitable for the motorcycle, other than a recording "where you've been" device. The handlebar mount is for a standard diameter (7/8", etc - bicycle) and comes with a strip of rubber to both grip the bar and to be a shock absorber. I've mounted mine on the left-side of the cross-brace on the handlebar and used a piece of Tygon (clear plastic) tubing to beef-up that cross-brace to the 7/8" diameter and then mounted the Garmin bracket on it. I also have the lanyard on the GPS and initially loop it over the mirror stalk (right-side) before clipping the GPS into the handlebar mounted base. This extra safety strap saved my GPS from a high-speed drop when I didn't properly clip it to the handlebar mount and it bounced out. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > Don are the Garmin etrex waterproof and how did you mount yours? > > > Thanks Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: spike55_bmw@... > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:48:13 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - GPS recommendations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you anchor it on the KLR? Would you want to power it from the >KLR battery on extended rides? This is a very nice feature if it gets dark on >you and you can keep the screen brightness on 100% of the time rather than >having it time out every 15 secs. Does the Oregon come with or can you add >enough memory to hold enough topo map data to encompass your KLR rides? >Remember if the GPS unit leaves a "crumb trail" or history of your trek, it >takes up memory too, so 2GB of memory is good for a multi-state ride when you're >"packing" the higher data amounts associated with topo maps (Garmin's Topo >software has more of the small dirt roads in it than their Metro software). >Ease of handling the buttons while in motion on your bike is another >consideration. Your left hand will be doing all of the work: zoom in / out, >scrolling, reset after scrolling, screen lighting levels. > > > > I use a Garmin eTrex Legend HCx, which is good for leaving a crumb trail but >it's unrealistic at routing. It is better for backpacking, as the crow flies, >type navigation. It is great for me on the KLR, if I put the time in the night >before to make a list of roads / turns I want to take and then watch for them >coming up on the GPS. I can also load in the crumb trail from a previous trip >and then follow it, more or less, to get around a circuit on a day-ride. > > > > I've also made two data fields visible on the screen: time & speed. And refer >to them frequently. I defer to the GPS speed and rarely look at the KLR speedo, >especially when going through towns. > > > > My two-cents > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote: > > > > > > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > > > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > > > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > > > backroads. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[kconcour1]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bowden wrote:

> > Taxes are coming back and I think its about time I buy a gps for the KLR. > What are people using? I also geocache with my kid and thought about buying > an Garmin Oregon, but dont know how it will work with the KLR on trails and > backroads. > > David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

I have been using the older GPSMAP 276C for 5 years and about 80k miles on 2 different bikes. I love the unit. Unfortunately no longer available as new. With the tour tech mount it has survived various mis-adventures. Track log that goes from 62 to 44 to zero in 3 seconds for one. Internal cmos battery has been dead for 3 years just takes longer to acquire satellites now. But all of the new units leave me discontent. Don't want the touch screen as gloves with dirt on them make me think they won't last long. Screen protectors are nice but no desire to replace them weekly. I have the Oregon as well but that is for hiking and the screen is way too small for bike use. Thin I will use this one until it dies then send it off to Garmin to have them fix it and keep using it. The Map source with 512 MB card storage capacity will hold close to half the US at a time and carry a notebook computer to update it as required about 3 times in a 5 month lap of the US last summer. Download the track data every 3 or 4 days of travel normally as it is kept in a seperate storage location in the unit (up to 10,000 points). For what it is worth.