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big brother is watching you

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:07 pm
by Fred Hink

big brother is watching you

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:16 pm
by Shane
COOL! How much will my pre- 2011 bikes be worth when I leave the usa now!!!?
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > What do you think of this? > http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=2072 > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >

big brother is watching you

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:17 am
by Lourd Baltimore
But-but-but...LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES! Sounds like a law to enforce some existing regs, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. In terms of the reporting, I feel journalism has gone down the tubes.  The article does not provide a proper reference to CA SB 435 nor did they even provide a a simple link to the actual bill text.  Sheesh! Anyways, here's the CA Senate's page on the bill which includes all revisions from introduction to enrollment:http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_435&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen Also included are minutes/analyses from various senate discussions of the bill.It's interesting to follow the genesis of this bill from just including motorcycles into the CA smog check scheme to where it is now. One of my questions about the bill was answered in the 27 August analysis:Q: Would this bill require primary or secondary enforcement? That is, can you be stopped by law enforcement for this?A:  No you cannot be stopped solely for the violation of this law nor by the suspicion of violation of this law. I guess that's at least nice, but do cops ever really have to have a good (provable) reason to pull you over? Other points from the bill and analyses:- For the first violation, it may be thrown out (along with the fine) if the violation is corrected within some timeframe.- Selling, installing, or advertizing hardware that violates the EPA regs will also be illegal. Discuss. Josh. [b]From:[/b] Fred Hink [b]To:[/b] KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, September 3, 2010 3:07:12 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Big Brother is Watching You   What do you think of this? http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=2072 Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com    

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:09 am
by Jack Stringer
We had this a few year ago here in the UK. The insisted all bikes has a British Standard number stamped into the pipe. This was to get through the yearly MOT and so we ended up with people having a spare can to go on the bike when it was that time of year. They have scrapped it because it was too much effort. Now the rules just state the exhaust should be within tolerance with the standard pipes. Jack

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:17 am
by K.B
If they are really concerned about the environment, a better solution would be to make it easier for people to keep their motorcycles legal. It would make more sense to encourage people to ride more and drive less. I prepose legislation exempting motorcycles from registration fees and allowing motorcyles to used toll roads and goverment parking at no charge.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > What do you think of this? > http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=2072 > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:29 am
by RobertWichert
I personally support the sound test, but not the sticker. But I WILL have some stickers for sale later. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================
On 9/3/2010 6:17 AM, K.B wrote:   If they are really concerned about the environment, a better solution would be to make it easier for people to keep their motorcycles legal. It would make more sense to encourage people to ride more and drive less. I prepose legislation exempting motorcycles from registration fees and allowing motorcyles to used toll roads and goverment parking at no charge. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" moabmc@... wrote: > > What do you think of this? > http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=2072 > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:02 am
by Kevin Powers
Sound test is the only way to enforce a noise issue. A sticker would just lead to drilled out pipes with stickers on them. What I want to know is what the guy is riding in the picture that accompanied the article? -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:14 am
by SM
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote:
Another costly, redundant, unnecessary law foisted upon us Californians by a legislator that is out completely of touch with reality. (insert curse filled angry rant here) I am no fan of loud pipes, but I think the issue this bill is trying to address can be easily addressed by laws already on the books. We don't need more legislation, just better application of the laws already in existence. I tried to get my point across by writing a letter to the governor using this link: http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/alert/?alertid=16039911&queueid=[capwiz:queue_id] Cal Posse to the Governor's desk inbox, stat! Thanks CA Stu A13

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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:34 am
by David Nichols
I think that's why I live in Texas! [b]From:[/b] Fred Hink [b]To:[/b] KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thu, September 2, 2010 9:07:12 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Big Brother is Watching You  

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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:35 am
by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
Looks like I'm OK with Big Brother with my new Versys. It has a catalytic converter Doesn't it?. Next they will require seat belts in their infinite wisdom. Criswell
On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Fred Hink wrote:   What do you think of this? http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=2072 Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com