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No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer.                                                       Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: chris.eckert@... Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again   I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > 5.10x17). > > Ken > Colorado >

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Stu: I agree with you. Some of my friends and other riders I know love to go cheap on the tires. But then they tell me that the tires are a little squirrely in the turns, not so good in the rain, and they are only dirt-worthy for about 2,000 miles. They have to change tires two or three times a season. Then they have to pull the wheels and either change the tires themselves or take it to a dealer and pay $30 / tire for a change and balance. So what have they really saved in $ and you also have all of the down time? I've been running the MEFOs since the OEM wore out (3,000 miles) and they are good in the dirt for my whole season (6,000 - 7,000 miles / yr), they aren't squirrely in the turns, and they are good in the rain but they are getting more expensive. But I really don't have the time to go cheap. It sounds like too much work to me. Don R100, A6F (x2)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. > > I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: chris.eckert@... > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. > > > > For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > > > > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > > > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > > > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > > > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > > > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > > > 5.10x17). > > > > > > Ken > > > Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734386 >

What's a MIfO's? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 6/14/2010 8:07 PM, stuart sullivan wrote: No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com From: chris.eckert@ thehartford. com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" kjedick@... wrote: > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > 5.10x17). > > Ken > Colorado > Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games Play Now!

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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > What's a MIfO's? >

You know what they say about opinons and assholes. Case in point. Sounds like you have not even used these tires on a KLR. A lot of people say Pirelli's suck too. If you have to start your statement with "no offense" then don't fucking say it. We need objective REAL WORLD info, not flame bait. Sorry folks I don't mean to feed the troll but sometimes I can't stop myself.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:07 PM, stuart sullivan wrote:

No offense taken Stu, The D270s have served me very well for years. I can easily forgive the funny little glitch as you lean the rear for the price per mile since I commute on my KLR a lot. They also do very well on the types of trails I ride regularly. I do swap them out with bt21s for real off road though. They would not have been the best choice for the PineBarrens300 last fall. As for the rest of you trying to order I did not have the catalog number so I used the alternative method. I told them i tore the page out and only had that with me. They went serching and eventualy found it.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. >

Anyone else having trouble controlling their fingers on their keyboard, please give me a shout.   Fred List Admin.   [b]From:[/b] chaztor@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:53 AM [b]To:[/b] dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K   " but sometimes I can't stop myself." On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:07 PM, stuart sullivan wrote:

 

#ygrps-yiv-1238624620 p {margin:0;}I used to agree with both of you.  However, I'm starting to go to the dark side.  I ride my KLR a lot.  If it's not raining buckets, I ride everywhere I go unless I have to haul something large.  I commute, go to the store, carve canyons and run fire trails and desert track all on the same bike. After my stock tires wore out, I did a bunch of research and decided on dropping on a set of Metzeler Enduro 3 Saharas.  They were expensive, but based upon what I'd read, they fit my style of riding well.  They were good on-road, and good off-road.  Had a decent wear life, etc.  I found that larely my research was correct.  They were great tires but they were near the top end of cost range of KLR tires.  They were good tires and they lasted about 1,000 miles more than the stock ones. When it came time to replace again, I started my research all over again.  This time, I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire.  Over and over people were raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire.  I figured "What do I have to lose?, a set is under $100.00!"  I ordered a set and spooned 'em on. I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised.  They are far better than I expected.  For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect.  Dry pavement performance is outstanding, I can carve the canyons and literally drag pegs with confidence.  I feel no "squirreliness".  Wet performance is acceptable.  I commute in light-to-moderate rain without fear.  Off road they perform as well as any 70/30 tire out there.  Were the Metzelers better? A little.  Were they 3 times better? Definitely not. Since I ride so many miles, the choice is a no-brainer.  The Kendas are suited to my particular needs, and the price is reasonable.  They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable.  In fact, I hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my rims.  The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the bike without crashing.  They have my whole-hearted endorsement.  The link below is a picture of the wheel damage.  The tires are still on the road now, without any indication of a problem. http://bit.ly/bGCBXS -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "spike55_bmw" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K   Stu: I agree with you. Some of my friends and other riders I know love to go cheap on the tires. But then they tell me that the tires are a little squirrely in the turns, not so good in the rain, and they are only dirt-worthy for about 2,000 miles. They have to change tires two or three times a season. Then they have to pull the wheels and either change the tires themselves or take it to a dealer and pay $30 / tire for a change and balance. So what have they really saved in $ and you also have all of the down time? I've been running the MEFOs since the OEM wore out (3,000 miles) and they are good in the dirt for my whole season (6,000 - 7,000 miles / yr), they aren't squirrely in the turns, and they are good in the rain but they are getting more expensive. But I really don't have the time to go cheap. It sounds like too much work to me. Don R100, A6F (x2) --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. > > I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com > From: chris.eckert@... > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. > > > > For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > > > > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > > > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > > > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > > > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > > > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > > > 5.10x17). > > > > > > Ken > > > Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734386 >

Well put Fred my sentiments exactly.                                                      Stu. To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; chaztor@... From: moabmc@... Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:20:40 -0600 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K   Anyone else having trouble controlling their fingers on their keyboard, please give me a shout.   Fred List Admin.   [b]From:[/b] chaztor@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:53 AM [b]To:[/b] dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] ReTires again!Kenda' s S$*K   " but sometimes I can't stop myself." On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:07 PM, stuart sullivan wrote:

 

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Nice constructive reply Jeff if i may say,so much so that i just ordered a set of K761s which happens to be one of the kenda's I've not tried and will put them on next instead of the TKCs,and maybe I'll join you on the dark side or not,"Jeff i am your Farther".                                                 Stu. To: spike55_bmw@... CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: jeff@... Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:41:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda's S$*K   I used to agree with both of you.  However, I'm starting to go to the dark side.  I ride my KLR a lot.  If it's not raining buckets, I ride everywhere I go unless I have to haul something large.  I commute, go to the store, carve canyons and run fire trails and desert track all on the same bike. After my stock tires wore out, I did a bunch of research and decided on dropping on a set of Metzeler Enduro 3 Saharas.  They were expensive, but based upon what I'd read, they fit my style of riding well.  They were good on-road, and good off-road.  Had a decent wear life, etc.  I found that larely my research was correct.  They were great tires but they were near the top end of cost range of KLR tires.  They were good tires and they lasted about 1,000 miles more than the stock ones. When it came time to replace again, I started my research all over again.  This time, I had found that I had been riding far more street and freeway than I had planned so I looked for a more "street-y" tire.  Over and over people were raving about the K761 for a 70/30 tire.  I figured "What do I have to lose?, a set is under $100.00!"  I ordered a set and spooned 'em on. I must say that I'm impressed, and surprised.  They are far better than I expected.  For the type of riding I do, they are near perfect.  Dry pavement performance is outstanding, I can carve the canyons and literally drag pegs with confidence.  I feel no "squirreliness" .  Wet performance is acceptable.  I commute in light-to-moderate rain without fear.  Off road they perform as well as any 70/30 tire out there.  Were the Metzelers better? A little.  Were they 3 times better? Definitely not. Since I ride so many miles, the choice is a no-brainer.  The Kendas are suited to my particular needs, and the price is reasonable.  They are speed-rated far beyond what the KLR will ever produce and I have found them to be safe and reliable.  In fact, I hit a chunk of steel in the freeway at 40MPH that completely trashed both my rims.  The Kenda tires and tubes held up, held air and allowed me to land the bike without crashing.  They have my whole-hearted endorsement.  The link below is a picture of the wheel damage.  The tires are still on the road now, without any indication of a problem. http://bit.ly/ bGCBXS -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "spike55_bmw" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: ReTires again!Kenda' s S$*K   Stu: I agree with you. Some of my friends and other riders I know love to go cheap on the tires. But then they tell me that the tires are a little squirrely in the turns, not so good in the rain, and they are only dirt-worthy for about 2,000 miles. They have to change tires two or three times a season. Then they have to pull the wheels and either change the tires themselves or take it to a dealer and pay $30 / tire for a change and balance. So what have they really saved in $ and you also have all of the down time? I've been running the MEFOs since the OEM wore out (3,000 miles) and they are good in the dirt for my whole season (6,000 - 7,000 miles / yr), they aren't squirrely in the turns, and they are good in the rain but they are getting more expensive. But I really don't have the time to go cheap. It sounds like too much work to me. Don R100, A6F (x2) --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > No offense intended but you get what you pay for and i know a lot of people on this site like the kenda's and i think thats more to do with pricing,two sets of tires for $80 plus $ is pretty good but ultimately they suck. > > I'm 65 and have used all kinds of tires over the years on road and dual purpose bikes and the Kenda's are some of the worst I've ever used,except the bridgestone 020s on my Guzzi,Pirelli s on the way. > > I expect this will stir a hornets nest of indignation so have at it,It's just my 2cnts and and keep it civil please,more money for sure but Continental TKC s and the MIfO's but your wallet doe's suffer. > > Stu. > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: chris.eckert@ ... > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:25 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 Tirs again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just called JC Whitney and ordered 4 Kenda D270s, 2 front and 2 rear. They did honor the $20.99 price although it took them a few minutes to find it in the catalog. They also threw in the web special of free shipping although I had to pay a $15 sur charge for the shipping weight. $107 for 4 new tires. > > > > For that Price I can easily forgive the little side wiggle thing they do while I commute to work. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kjedick" wrote: > > > > > > I just purchased the Kenda K270 at JC Whitney for $20.99 dollars apiece. > > > Originally, they were going to charge me the web price of $57.00 > > > dollars, but they honored the JC Whitney Motorcycle catalog price after > > > I give them the page and part numbers. The part numbers are on page 114 > > > and the part numbers are: CCN315335 (front 3.25x 21) and CCN315337 (rear > > > 5.10x17). > > > > > > Ken > > > Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat > http://go.microsoft .com/?linkid= 9734386 >

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