Wilsons Sandbox

Any of you peeps running rim locks on your KLR? Have been kicking around doing this so I can run lower tire pressure when I hit the woods, sugar sand So have you drilled your wheels for this and regretted it? Just wondering...what would be the negatives doing this mod? I'm asking as I have never run rim locks my self TIA Jake Reddick Fla. Pessimists by nature have a better time of life, as having our expectations dashed against the rocks is seldom a bad thing. On the contrary it is usually a pleasant surprise. http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

No regrets. The only negative is it takes a little longer to mount a tire. It's a little tricky getting the rim locks in. I am running two rim locks on each rim. They will keep the tire on the bead if you get a sudden flat especially helpful keeping control if it is the front tire. I found by experimenting that you can run a set of Dunlop D606 tires with two rim locks without any air pressure. Effectively a set of run flat tires. The rim locks are mounted a little over 90 degrees each from the valve stem so they fit between a set of spokes that spread out like where the valve stem is. Without looking I think it is eight spokes between either rim lock and the valve stem. I don't even bother to balance them as they have never given a vibe and I like to run 75 to 85 on the highway. Walt

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of sh8knj8kster > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:04 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Who is using rim locks here? > > Any of you peeps running rim locks on your KLR? > > Have been kicking around doing this so I can run lower tire pressure > when I hit the woods, sugar sand > > So have you drilled your wheels for this and regretted it? > > Just wondering...what would be the negatives doing this mod? > > I'm asking as I have never run rim locks my self > > > TIA > > > > Jake > Reddick Fla. >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "k650" wrote:

> > No regrets. The only negative is it takes a little longer to mount > a tire. It's a little tricky getting the rim locks in. I am running > two rim locks on each rim. They will keep the tire on the bead if > you get a sudden flat especially helpful keeping control if it is the > front tire. I found by experimenting that you can run a set of Dunlop > D606 tires with two rim locks without any air pressure. Effectively a > set of run flat tires. The rim locks are mounted a little over 90 > degrees each from the valve stem so they fit between a set of spokes > that spread out like where the valve stem is. Without looking I think > it is eight spokes between either rim lock and the valve stem. I don't > even bother to balance them as they have never given a vibe and I like > to run 75 to 85 on the highway. > > Walt > >

~~~I have to admit, I haven't given any thought to running more than one rim lock per wheel. Someone else hit me off list saying they bought two rim locks for each wheel, for a total of four rim locks Jake Reddick Fla. Pessimists by nature have a better time of life, as having our expectations dashed against the rocks is seldom a bad thing. On the contrary it is usually a pleasant surprise. http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of sh8knj8kster > > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:04 AM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Who is using rim locks here? > > > > Any of you peeps running rim locks on your KLR? > > > > Have been kicking around doing this so I can run lower tire pressure > > when I hit the woods, sugar sand > > > > So have you drilled your wheels for this and regretted it? > > > > Just wondering...what would be the negatives doing this mod? > > > > I'm asking as I have never run rim locks my self > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > Jake > > Reddick Fla. > > >

One rim lock will keep the tire from slipping. Two will better allow you to run on a flat, and may create less of a balance issue.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > ~~~I have to admit, I haven't given any thought to running more than one rim lock per wheel. Someone else hit me off list saying they bought two rim locks for each wheel, for a total of four rim locks > >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote:

> > One rim lock will keep the tire from slipping. Two will better allow you to run on a flat, and may create less of a balance issue. >

~~~Jud, I'm thinking strongly about adding rim locks to my KLR wheels. using two per wheel makes sense as far as balancing is concerned, but I need to mention...while googling rim locks for motorcycle wheels, I came across a Dunlop article that said to place the rubber spoke band 'over' (on top of) the rim lock. that didn't make a lot of sense to me...and maybe it was in a different article on MC rim locks but, a user of rim locks said to not use the 'jive' rubber rim strips when using rim locks, that it was better to use duct tape instead (to protect the tube from the spoke nipples), cutting/drilling holes where the tube air valve abnd rim lock stem goes through the duct tape. What's your thoughts on this? Jake Reddick Fla. Pessimists by nature have a better time of life, as having our expectations dashed against the rocks is seldom a bad thing. On the contrary it is usually a pleasant surprise. http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > > > > ~~~I have to admit, I haven't given any thought to running more than one rim lock per wheel. Someone else hit me off list saying they bought two rim locks for each wheel, for a total of four rim locks > > > > >

Attachments : All Japanese dirt bikes that come with rim locks will have the rubber rim tape over the top of the rim locks.  KTM is the only one I know of that will have the rim tape under the rim lock.  I have seen more rim tape problems with the rim tape under the rim lock than over the top.  Using duct tape instead of a rubber rim tape is a bad idea unless that is all you have at the time.  Duct tape usually has fibers woven in the tape that once they become wet will keep the spokes and nipples wet long enough to rust them.  Trust me, you don't want rusty nipples.  [img]cid:554BBB6399B640C7A2711D9B4D215CBE@ShopPC[/img] There has to be a reason most all motorcycle manufacturers use rubber for their rim tape instead of duct tape.  I can imagine the reasons some will say to use duct tape and it probably has lots to do with costs.  You didn't hear it from me that there are a few KLRistas out there that are cheap.  (cough) Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com     [b]From:[/b] sh8knj8k@msn.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, May 24, 2010 1:02 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Who is using rim locks here?   --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote:

> > One rim lock will keep the tire from

slipping. Two will better allow you to run on a flat, and may create less of a balance issue.

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~~~Jud, I'm thinking strongly about adding rim locks to my KLR wheels. using two per wheel makes sense as far as balancing is concerned, but I need to mention...while googling rim locks for motorcycle wheels, I came across a Dunlop article that said to place the rubber spoke band 'over' (on top of) the rim lock. that didn't make a lot of sense to me...and maybe it was in a different article on MC rim locks but, a user of rim locks said to not use the 'jive' rubber rim strips when using rim locks, that it was better to use duct tape instead (to protect the tube from the spoke nipples), cutting/drilling holes where the tube air valve abnd rim lock stem goes through the duct tape. What's your thoughts on this? Jake Reddick Fla. Pessimists by nature have a better time of life, as having our expectations dashed against the rocks is seldom a bad thing. On the contrary it is usually a pleasant surprise. http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/

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--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote:

> > > > > ~~~I

have to admit, I haven't given any thought to running more than one rim lock per wheel. Someone else hit me off list saying they bought two rim locks for each wheel, for a total of four rim locks

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I have never tried to install the rim band over a rim lock. After thinking about it real hard, I can see it, and I guess it makes sense to have something between the rim lock and the tube. I used to think a duct tape rim band was a brilliant idea, especially as I always have duct tape on hand, but cannot be relied upon to keep rim bands, or remember to pick up new ones when I buy tubes. Then, one rainy evening in Montana, my rear tire went flat while I was eating dinner. I really didn't want to change it in a dark, wet parking lot, especially when I had cover and light at my motel about 15 miles away, so I thought, "Here's the perfect application for that can of fix-a-flat in my saddle bag." Well, one can did nothing. Nor did a second can from my buddy's kit. So my wife climbed up behind my buddy, and i rode the flat back to the motel. On that bike, with that tire, it worked pretty well. Once I got through the wobbly transition zone and up to about 45mph, centrifugal force filled out the tire, and the bike handled pretty well, if a bit wallowy. Slowing down again was a bit hairy, but I managed to wrestle to a stop right outside my room where I decided that was enough excitement for the night. In the morning, I was surprised first to see that none of the tire goop had leaked into the tire. There was a little bit on the rim, but most of it was still inside the tube. Then I tried to find the puncture, difficult because I had never found an offending object in the tire. I had to inflate the tube to find the hole, which was oblong in shape, on the inner circumference of the tube. I had torn the duct tape lengthwise to get a band that would fit down in the drop center of the rim. The raw edge of the duct tape had fretted through the tube. That's why I no longer use duct tape as a rim band. On the other hand, I did learn I could ride quite a way on a flat if I had to.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote: > > > > One rim lock will keep the tire from slipping. Two will better allow you to run on a flat, and may create less of a balance issue. > > > > > > > > > ~~~Jud, I'm thinking strongly about adding rim locks to my KLR wheels. using two per wheel makes sense as far as balancing is concerned, but I need to mention...while googling rim locks for motorcycle wheels, I came across a Dunlop article that said to place the rubber spoke band 'over' (on top of) the rim lock. that didn't make a lot of sense to me...and maybe it was in a different article on MC rim locks but, a user of rim locks said to not use the 'jive' rubber rim strips when using rim locks, that it was better to use duct tape instead (to protect the tube from the spoke nipples), cutting/drilling holes where the tube air valve abnd rim lock stem goes through the duct tape. What's your thoughts on this? > > > > Jake > Reddick Fla. > Pessimists by nature have a better time of life, as having our expectations dashed against the rocks is seldom a bad thing. On the contrary it is usually a pleasant surprise. > > > > > > http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" wrote: > > > > > > > > ~~~I have to admit, I haven't given any thought to running more than one rim lock per wheel. Someone else hit me off list saying they bought two rim locks for each wheel, for a total of four rim locks > > > > > > > > >