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[revmaaatin]

List, Oh, the thoughts of spring KLR maintenance. I think the red, red Robin will start bob, bob, bobbin along any day now. In one of the manuals (OEM/Clymers) show using a 'baggie'-funnel with a rubber band to drizzle oil into the clutch cable for lubrication. Anyone here use a similar method to drip kerosene/diesel fuel down the cable first to fully flush the cable clean? Previously on ER-KLR Maintenance: I just forced WD 40 spray down the cable opening and let it drain. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Seems like a cable could benefit from a once yearly flush with kerosene. Any known problems of doing this? Technique: Instead of a baggie, I was thinking of using a plastic funnel, place the cable through the funnel opening and use some silicone to plug the funnel. Let it dry and put 8+oz of fuel through the cable. Repeat until clear. Thoughts? revmaaatin.

[Thomas Komjathy]

When I worked with aircraft, cleaning a cable with solvent like that was a no, no, because it would wash away the lubricant that was between the individual wires of the cable. The best thing to do is, run some 50 wt motor oil (with moly/graphite) through the cable, work it in and lube the cable ends with some good marine spec grease. I also work a little of it into the ends of the cables to seal them some. TK [b]From:[/b] revmaaatin [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, March 19, 2010 6:07:44 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Cleaning a clutch cable   List, Oh, the thoughts of spring KLR maintenance. I think the red, red Robin will start bob, bob, bobbin along any day now. In one of the manuals (OEM/Clymers) show using a 'baggie'-funnel with a rubber band to drizzle oil into the clutch cable for lubrication. Anyone here use a similar method to drip kerosene/diesel fuel down the cable first to fully flush the cable clean? Previously on ER-KLR Maintenance: I just forced WD 40 spray down the cable opening and let it drain. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Seems like a cable could benefit from a once yearly flush with kerosene. Any known problems of doing this? Technique: Instead of a baggie, I was thinking of using a plastic funnel, place the cable through the funnel opening and use some silicone to plug the funnel. Let it dry and put 8+oz of fuel through the cable. Repeat until clear. Thoughts? revmaaatin.

[John Biccum]

I use a Pro Motion cable luber.  It clamps into the cable and allows a spray cable lube to travel down the cable sheath without mess.  I shoot lube into the top of the cable until the lube flowing out the bottom of the cable runs clear.  That flushes out all the dirt and leaves behind the lube. The device is pictured here: http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0182/

On 3/19/2010 3:07 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   List, Oh, the thoughts of spring KLR maintenance. I think the red, red Robin will start bob, bob, bobbin along any day now. In one of the manuals (OEM/Clymers) show using a 'baggie'-funnel with a rubber band to drizzle oil into the clutch cable for lubrication. Anyone here use a similar method to drip kerosene/diesel fuel down the cable first to fully flush the cable clean? Previously on ER-KLR Maintenance: I just forced WD 40 spray down the cable opening and let it drain. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Seems like a cable could benefit from a once yearly flush with kerosene. Any known problems of doing this? Technique: Instead of a baggie, I was thinking of using a plastic funnel, place the cable through the funnel opening and use some silicone to plug the funnel. Let it dry and put 8+oz of fuel through the cable. Repeat until clear. Thoughts? revmaaatin.

[Thomas Komjathy]

Me too! I use that 50 wt oil w/moly in a smaller (8oz) contact (eye) cleaning solution bottle. The hole in the end is just a tad to small for one of those red tubes that go on the cans, so I opened it up a little with a scribe, just enough to get a tight fit for the tube that I cut to about three inches long. Now you can slide the tube  in and out, changing the length to reach most areas, like chains, pivot points etc. You can also now poke it into the cable-luber and squeeze the oil through the cable. Once you are done, push the tube in enough so the cap will close and you can carry it with you. Whoooooozzz yer innovator!!! TK [b]From:[/b] John Biccum [b]To:[/b] revmaaatin [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, March 19, 2010 7:26:10 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Cleaning a clutch cable   I use a Pro Motion cable luber.  It clamps into the cable and allows a spray cable lube to travel down the cable sheath without mess.  I shoot lube into the top of the cable until the lube flowing out the bottom of the cable runs clear.  That flushes out all the dirt and leaves behind the lube. The device is pictured here: http://motionpro. com/motorcycle/ partno/08- 0182/

On 3/19/2010 3:07 PM, revmaaatin wrote:

  List, Oh, the thoughts of spring KLR maintenance. I think the red, red Robin will start bob, bob, bobbin along any day now. In one of the manuals (OEM/Clymers) show using a 'baggie'-funnel with a rubber band to drizzle oil into the clutch cable for lubrication. Anyone here use a similar method to drip kerosene/diesel fuel down the cable first to fully flush the cable clean? Previously on ER-KLR Maintenance: I just forced WD 40 spray down the cable opening and let it drain. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Seems like a cable could benefit from a once yearly flush with kerosene. Any known problems of doing this? Technique: Instead of a baggie, I was thinking of using a plastic funnel, place the cable through the funnel opening and use some silicone to plug the funnel. Let it dry and put 8+oz of fuel through the cable. Repeat until clear. Thoughts? revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, John Biccum wrote:

> > I use a Pro Motion cable luber. It clamps into the cable and allows a > spray cable lube to travel down the cable sheath without mess. I shoot > lube into the top of the cable until the lube flowing out the bottom of > the cable runs clear. That flushes out all the dirt and leaves behind > the lube. > > The device is pictured here: > http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0182/ >

Hi John, Thanks for supplying this link. I should have indicated that I have this/or something similar that I find less than satisfactory. Seems to be plenty of spray that does not find its way down the cable. Operator error comes to mind, or, the device looks better on paper than in practice. shrug.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Komjathy wrote:

> > Me too! I use that 50 wt oil w/moly in a smaller (8oz) contact (eye) cleaning solution bottle. The hole in the end is just a tad to small for one of those red tubes that go on the cans, so I opened it up a little with a scribe, just enough to get a tight fit for the tube that I cut to about three inches long. Now you can slide the tube in and out, changing the length to reach most areas, like chains, pivot points etc. You can also now poke it into the cable-luber and squeeze the oil through the cable. Once you are done, push the tube in enough so the cap will close and you can carry it with you. Whoooooozzz yer innovator!!! > > TK >

TK-I might give this a try. Great suggestion. Reminds me of the old Teflon lube bottle you bought for gun work--4oz with a 3" 'clear' tube. Will your suggestion work just as well with a clear or black spray tube? wink. IRT to previous post using the Motion Pro device--I have found I get about the same amount in the cable using a pressurized wd-40 can for 'flushing' as the cable lube device. Safety goggles used, of course--and an old shirt. Thanks for those who replied--just looking for a way to really, really, clean the cable's innards. Those doing cable maintenace, remember to hit the cable end 'ball' with a dab of grease as well. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-267917205 p {margin:0;}Depends on how much time you spend on it, but wouldn't it be more effective to spend 30 bucks and 5 minutes to replace the cable and be done with it? The older I get the more valuable my time is to me. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:59:45 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Cleaning a clutch cable   --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Thomas Komjathy wrote: > > Me too! I use that 50 wt oil w/moly in a smaller (8oz) contact (eye) cleaning solution bottle. The hole in the end is just a tad to small for one of those red tubes that go on the cans, so I opened it up a little with a scribe, just enough to get a tight fit for the tube that I cut to about three inches long. Now you can slide the tube in and out, changing the length to reach most areas, like chains, pivot points etc. You can also now poke it into the cable-luber and squeeze the oil through the cable. Once you are done, push the tube in enough so the cap will close and you can carry it with you. Whoooooozzz yer innovator!!! > > TK > TK-I might give this a try. Great suggestion. Reminds me of the old Teflon lube bottle you bought for gun work--4oz with a 3" 'clear' tube. Will your suggestion work just as well with a clear or black spray tube? wink. IRT to previous post using the Motion Pro device--I have found I get about the same amount in the cable using a pressurized wd-40 can for 'flushing' as the cable lube device. Safety goggles used, of course--and an old shirt. Thanks for those who replied--just looking for a way to really, really, clean the cable's innards. Those doing cable maintenace, remember to hit the cable end 'ball' with a dab of grease as well. revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote:

> > Depends on how much time you spend on it, but wouldn't it be more effective to spend 30 bucks and 5 minutes to replace the cable and be done with it? > > The older I get the more valuable my time is to me. > > -Jeff Khoury > >

Jeff, True. Short on time, spend money. Short on money: spend time. Valid point, except I got a fudge factor built in. smile. I got a 14 y/0 to do some of the grunt work. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Saline]

Martin, For whatever it's worth... I like a drop of 30 weight motor oil on the end of the cable where it fits in the lever. I don't think it collects as much dirt as grease and is easy to apply. I also use a drop of 30 weight on the ends of the throttle cables at the carb. Also, for whatever it's worth... I don't lube my cable innards. On the airheads it causes sticking and earlier failure because of the liner material. I don't know about the KLR cable innards but they seem to work fine for me unlubed. Best, Jeff Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Hotel Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=uoKiCx9GXOTcFIHqmPquEAAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATRAAAAAA=

[Thomas Komjathy]

Rev Red has worked well for me, but do test the other color tubes and let us all know if they work better. Maybe a scientific study of flow rates based on the amount of squeeze pressure applied x duration of the squeeze. TK [b]From:[/b] revmaaatin [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, March 19, 2010 8:59:45 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Cleaning a clutch cable  

--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Thomas Komjathy wrote: > > Me too! I use that 50 wt oil w/moly in a smaller (8oz) contact (eye) cleaning solution bottle. The hole in the end is just a tad to small for one of those red tubes that go on the cans, so I opened it up a little with a scribe, just enough to get a tight fit for the tube that I cut to about three inches long. Now you can slide the tube in and out, changing the length to reach most areas, like chains, pivot points etc. You can also now poke it into the cable-luber and squeeze the oil through the cable. Once you are done, push the tube in enough so the cap will close and you can carry it with you. Whoooooozzz yer innovator!!! > > TK > TK-I might give this a try. Great suggestion. Reminds me of the old Teflon lube bottle you bought for gun work--4oz with a 3" 'clear' tube. Will your suggestion work just as well with a clear or black spray tube? wink. IRT to previous post using the Motion Pro device--I have found I get about the same amount in the cable using a pressurized wd-40 can for 'flushing' as the cable lube device. Safety goggles used, of course--and an old shirt. Thanks for those who replied--just looking for a way to really, really, clean the cable's innards. Those doing cable maintenace, remember to hit the cable end 'ball' with a dab of grease as well. revmaaatin.