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sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:54 am
by Carpenters Apprentice
Hello all knowledgeable and wise KLRista's. Went to the DR. the other day for a check up and took "The big OX". Nice ride, but about half way there my hands started falling asleep. The Dr. said it was CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) causing it. My question to the gathered knowledge is what has anyone done about this? I have read the different ideas about stoping the vibes in the bars, but I am wondering if anyone has actually had this problem and worked out a fix that might save my hands, maybe grips and deadening or some combination, and my life, rideing with numb hands just cant be safe.
Thanks,
Dana
sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:28 am
by Jeff Khoury
#ygrps-yiv-1248513750 p {margin:0;}I use grip puppies and that REALLY helped. 10-minute 10-dollar fix. Some people fill the bars with caulk, others use lead shot - still others replace the bars with tapered bars without a cross-brace.
Heavier end-weights help as well.
-Jeff Khoury
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Hello all knowledgeable and wise KLRista's. Went to the DR. the other day for a check up and took "The big OX". Nice ride, but about half way there my hands started falling asleep. The Dr. said it was CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) causing it. My question to the gathered knowledge is what has anyone done about this? I have read the different ideas about stoping the vibes in the bars, but I am wondering if anyone has actually had this problem and worked out a fix that might save my hands, maybe grips and deadening or some combination, and my life, rideing with numb hands just cant be safe.
Thanks,
Dana
sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:57 am
by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
Pro Gel grips from, Fred work great. That is the only thing I have done. Vibration never bothers me even on 600 - 700 mile days.
CRISWELL
On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote:
I use grip puppies and that REALLY helped. 10-minute 10-dollar fix. Some people fill the bars with caulk, others use lead shot - still others replace the bars with tapered bars without a cross-brace.
Heavier end-weights help as well.
-Jeff Khoury
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:52:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Hello all knowledgeable and wise KLRista's. Went to the DR. the other day for a check up and took "The big OX". Nice ride, but about half way there my hands started falling asleep. The Dr. said it was CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) causing it. My question to the gathered knowledge is what has anyone done about this? I have read the different ideas about stoping the vibes in the bars, but I am wondering if anyone has actually had this problem and worked out a fix that might save my hands, maybe grips and deadening or some combination, and my life, rideing with numb hands just cant be safe.
Thanks,
Dana
sleeping hands are an accident waiting to happen
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:42 pm
by revmaaatin
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Carpenters Apprentice" wrote:
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> Hello all knowledgeable and wise KLRista's. Went to the DR. the other day for a check up and took "The big OX". Nice ride, but about half way there my hands started falling asleep. The Dr. said it was CTS (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome) causing it. My question to the gathered knowledge is what has anyone done about this? I have read the different ideas about stoping the vibes in the bars, but I am wondering if anyone has actually had this problem and worked out a fix that might save my hands, maybe grips and deadening or some combination, and my life, riding with numb hands just cant be safe.
> Thanks,
> Dana
>
Dana,
Body position has some play in this problem as well.
Your CTS It is not necessarily 'all' in the vibration--though it is a huge part. Although the KLR is a thumper, my KLR's are remarkably smoother than many other bikes I have ridden.
Where to start:
The very first thing I would do is make sure your dohickey has been recently adjusted. Is that dohickey OEM or aftermarket. I was dumbfounded all much quieter/smoother the bike was after the torsion spring upgrade. Just amazing.
2. Check all the engine bolts to proper torque. Don't for get the ones under the tank! Many have eliminated huge amounts of vibration here.
3.Then chain tension; improper chain tension can set up some pretty bad harmonics and they would escape out the handle bars. Is you chain and sprocket set in good condition? Take a look closely at the rollers and for tight spots.
4. What condition are your tires? Knobby tires are rough, K270 are loud, D607's are what? this can't be a thumper smooth.
What else can you can do:
Ergonomically, you can push your body forward in the seat, and/or try moving the bars up with risers. Others here have found relief with bar-style that were called/classified as 'desert rise?' (brand specific; which give more height and a different 'sweep-angle' of the grips.
Others have suggested gel grips; yep, get r done.
One my stuff:
One bike has lead shot in the handle bars with expanding foam to plug the ends. The other bike has AL Rethenal bars. It all helps.
plus:
I personally got a lot of relief with
1. bar risers.
2. Rolling the handle bars forward and hugging the tank
3. Road riding (light traffic), I tend to use the rear foot pegs 90% of the time, which I found help me sit up straighter and further forward.
4. Vary your seat position, even stand in the pegs while street riding to relieve the stress.
5. Isometric exercises with your hands as you travel.
6. Lighten up on your grip!
7. Vista cruise, or throttle rocker will give your right hand a break. Pay attention to that throttle rocker, as in some positions, it will not easily allow you to use the throttle at lower setting with out a big adjustment of the device.
8. Tylenol, etal. I travel with Tylenol, Alieve, and Advil.
ymmv.
Be aware any change of the handle bars, type, or position may effect the length of the cables and how well the choke, throttle will work. May require rerouting the cables so they will allow the handle bars to move full travel.
But first: check those engine bolts and dohickey adjustment.
revmaaatin.
short?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:41 am
by RobertWichert
Wow! Great stories!
I do think that the original problem sounds more like a bad ground on
the cluster, though.
More stories!
Robert Wichert
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roncriswell@... wrote:
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> My neutral started coming on all the time 5 to 10 thousand miles ago.
> I fiddled with it some searching for wire problems and even replaced
> the little thingy that the wire plugs into on the side of the engine.
> No success. I just ride with it on. A friend used to have a car where
> the oil light stayed on. A piece of black tape over it fixed
> it....hah! My 99 used to be teal green. Green is my least favorite
> color and I ride Kawasakis. Go figure. Red is my favorite color,
> ahh.......go Ducatis. My teal bike now has bedliner plastic with a 3
> tone car paint gas tank . Black, red and yellow (my favorite colors +
> mud tight now). I have left the mud on it so as to piss the Krooozer
> riders off. I saw a Yamaha sport bike at a dealer today that
> everything was chrome including the plastic fairing. How de do dat?
>
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> Criswell
> On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:53 PM, revmaaatin wrote:
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>> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
>> , "Weber" wrote:
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>> > Hi everyone, I have never posted but I check in here every few days
>> and have been a member for about a year. I have a 1997 KR and about a
>> week ago I noticed my neutral light flashing and my rpm needle amid
>> my temp needle go flat at the same time. I am thinking it is the
>> kickstand switch. Anybody have any idea what it may be? It is
>> happening more frequently now but the bike starts and runs fine even
>> when the neutral light turns off and the needles go flat. Thanks for
>> your input in advance!
>> >
>>
>> Shorts. shh!!!!
>> I hope you can find yours and kill it dead.
>> They need to be found and eliminated. Several years ago a fellow
>> poster had 'set his bike on fire' while riding at a MOAB gathering.
>> Shorts: They come in more than just electric versions.
>> I believe I had a short in my speedo cable.
>> or was it?
>> While traveling at a steady throttle at 5500 Roms, 75MPH GPS/80
>> MPH-GI (gauge indicated), the mechanical speedo began increasing
>> without additional throttle. Before I knew it, I was doing a
>> 125mph-gi; while GPS remained at 75mph.
>> Now this speedo is Mechanical drive; and I have a 'short' in the
>> indicator. Go figure.
>>
>> Cue the Twilight Zone music:
>> All of this happened while traveling in the High Plains
>> Dakota-Triangle, (similar to the Bermuda Triangle, but on the high
>> plains). This triangle is part of that lonely stretch (US34)of road
>> between Sturgis and Ft. Pierre, SD.
>>
>> While traveling Eastward, there was an increasing headwind
>> component--resulting in a corresponding increase in the mph-gi.
>> Although the GPS indicated a steady (= +/- 75 mph), the wind forces
>> working on the KLR and the rider (me) were truly, about 125 mph due
>> to the East ambient wind component that was on the 'nose'. 100 miles
>> on a naked bike with a 125 mph headwind component will wear you out.
>> Might even make your write tall tales. shrug.
>>
>> If you have never riden in this part of the world, or sailed ships
>> above 40N or below the 40S th parallel, climbed mountains and
>> experience the winds there, it is difficult to explain the size and
>> magnitude of the wind. Sometimes for days, the wind blows at 40mph+;
>> said to have made people--living alone--crazy during the pioneer
>> days. Advesely affects many still today. twitch.
>>
>> Back to my story:
>> As my riding partner (AJ/Reaps) and I descended the Western river
>> bluffs and crossed crossed the Muddy Mo at Ft. Pierre, the weird
>> indications ceased. With the High Plains Triangle in the rear view
>> mirro, during the final 55 miles homeward I noted the difference
>> between the GPS and the speedo to be the normal KLR's +5mph gi/error.
>>
>> Speculation and conjecture: This all occurred while riding a 'teal'
>> colored 98. Those bikes/riders have always been the fastest, and this
>> one continues to believe it to be true.
>> Twlight Zone Music: off.
>>
>> Same bike now has a dead tach light. good bulb, bad wire somewhere.
>> sigh.
>>
>> revmaaatin. and the wind is howling today....
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