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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:45 pm
by guymanbro
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
>
> I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt". I don't want
> instantaneous wash-out off road.
>
> Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> worse than the K750s?
The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:59 am
by RobertWichert
Thanks for the tip.
Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068
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On 2/1/2010 4:45 PM, guymanbro wrote:
--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert robert@... wrote:
>
> I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt" . I don't want
> instantaneous wash-out off road.
>
> Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> worse than the K750s?
The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:33 am
by dooden
I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
> >
> > I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt". I don't want
> > instantaneous wash-out off road.
> >
> > Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> > worse than the K750s?
>
>
> The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
>
> Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
>
> The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
>
> da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
>
> p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
>
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:55 am
by Silver Duck
Plus one with Dooden... the 606 front and K 270 rear are THE way to go.
[b]From:[/b] Dooden
[b]To:[/b]
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
[b]Sent:[/b] Wed, February 3, 2010 12:33:23 AM
[b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires, tires, and more tires
I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
>
> --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
> >
> > I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt" . I don't want
> > instantaneous wash-out off road.
> >
> > Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> > worse than the K750s?
>
>
> The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
>
> Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
>
> The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
>
> da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
>
> p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
>
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:23 pm
by Jeff Khoury
#ygrps-yiv-675469710 p {margin:0;}In case someone wants to try it...
I just put a Shinko 244 rear on my brother's KLR. It has a tread pattern very similar to the K270, but the edge knobs are "meatier" and they don't feel as "squirmy" when in an aggressive lean on the slab, at least to me.
The price is right, too. I've heard they can chunk knobs if you ride the slab with them aired down, though. The consensus is that you need to air back up to street pressure as soon as you leave the trail.
-Jeff Khoury
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silver Duck"
To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 9:48:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires, tires, and more tires
Plus one with Dooden... the 606 front and K 270 rear are THE way to go.
[b]From:[/b] Dooden
[b]To:[/b]
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
[b]Sent:[/b] Wed, February 3, 2010 12:33:23 AM
[b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires, tires, and more tires
I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
>
> --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
> >
> > I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt" . I don't want
> > instantaneous wash-out off road.
> >
> > Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> > worse than the K750s?
>
>
> The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
>
> Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
>
> The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
>
> da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
>
> p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
>
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:31 am
by tgornall
What size K270 Rear should I get? I see them sized at 4.60 and 5.10. My current is a 130/80 17. Looking at online conversion charts I see conflicting info. What size fits best?
Thanks, Tim
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Silver Duck wrote:
>
> Plus one with Dooden... the 606 front and K 270 rear are THE way to go.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dooden
> To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:33:23 AM
> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires, tires, and more tires
>
>
> I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
>
> Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
>
> I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
>
> Dooden
> A15 Green Ape
>
> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
> >
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
> > >
> > > I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt" . I don't want
> > > instantaneous wash-out off road.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> > > worse than the K750s?
> >
> >
> > The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
> >
> > Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
> >
> > The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
> >
> > da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
> >
> > p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
> >
>
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:47 am
by Jeff Saline
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:25:31 -0000 "tgornall"
writes:
> What size K270 Rear should I get? I see them sized at 4.60 and 5.10.
> My current is a 130/80 17. Looking at online conversion charts I
> see conflicting info. What size fits best?
> Thanks, Tim
<><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><>
Tim,
I like the 5.10 x 17 rear.
On the front I prefer the 3.00 x 21. I think it's a bit quicker into the
turns. I don't get to ride much sand so a larger footprint isn't an
issue for me.
Tire pressures I like on my bike are 32 front and 36 rear on pavement.
Off pavement I'll let them drop to 22 front and 26 rear but rarely air
them down.
I've used the Kenda K270s for about 27,000 smiles with full touring loads
to naked bike.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:50 am
by dooden
5.10 fits, might get a slight rub on the OEM pipe at near full compression, but just enough to put marks on the pipe thats about it.
Yes it will have some wiggle when leaned, just consider it a early warning system that you are pushing a corner to hard.
Also my trick to new tires is mount them, put wheels back on bike and go find dirt/sand and play to get that slippery mold release stuff off them.
Dooden
A15 Green Ape
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "tgornall" wrote:
>
> What size K270 Rear should I get? I see them sized at 4.60 and 5.10. My current is a 130/80 17. Looking at online conversion charts I see conflicting info. What size fits best?
> Thanks, Tim
>
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Silver Duck wrote:
> >
> > Plus one with Dooden... the 606 front and K 270 rear are THE way to go.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dooden
> > To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 12:33:23 AM
> > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tires, tires, and more tires
> >
> >
> > I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
> >
> > Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
> >
> > I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
> >
> > Dooden
> > A15 Green Ape
> >
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, RobertWichert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was hoping for a little more "good on gravel/dirt" . I don't want
> > > > instantaneous wash-out off road.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the Dunlop 606 tip, though. Would you put the 606s better or
> > > > worse than the K750s?
> > >
> > >
> > > The D606s are miles above the K750s off road, and while not as smooth on road, they grip just about as well. The best set up I've found for off road worthiness while maintaining some semblance of road manners is the D606 up front and the Kenda K760 Trakmaster II on the rear.
> > >
> > > Mind you, I like to do some pretty hairy off road stuff including mud, sand, gravel, trees, rocks, etc. You may not need as much off-road traction as the above mentioned set up. Or for more off road traction, without the DOT rating, try a Michelin S12 up front with the Trakmaster out back. Stellar!
> > >
> > > The 606's front and rear provide superb off road performance, and more on road performance than you'd expect from such an agressive DOT knobby.
> > >
> > > da Vermonster (currently preparing to test the limits of studded tires in the Rocky Mountains)
> > >
> > > p.s. I like oil in my bikes.
> > >
> >
>
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:25 pm
by guymanbro
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote:
>
> I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
>
> Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
>
> I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
>
> Dooden
> A15 Green Ape
Yeah, I absolutely prefer to Trakmaster over the 270s off road. A little rougher on road, and they do wear funny but they are non directional so you can spin them to get more life out of them. It's almost paddle like in the soft stuff but not too squrrely on road. I can't remember for sure now, but I don't think the Trakmaster lasts quite as long as the K270, but I prefer the traction so I make that sacrifice.
Just for clarity, I'm not a big fan of the Trakmaster on the front, only out back.
da Vermonster
tires, tires, and more tires
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:04 pm
by RobertWichert
I have decided to stick with the TKC 80 on the back, but what's the front? I don't know. Right now I have a TKC 80 on the front which is terribly scalloped. I'm thinking of going back to the stock K750 Dunlop or the Dunlop D606.
Got any advice? Front. Think Front.
Back, for me, is TKC 80. I love it.
Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068
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On 2/4/2010 11:21 AM, guymanbro wrote:
--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" dooden@... wrote:
>
> I really like the 606 front, been running the K270 rears.
>
> Your Opinion is the 760 Trakmaster II much better than the K270 ?
>
> I know the 270 tends to get flat upon wearing (makes dirt corners fun)
>
> Dooden
> A15 Green Ape
Yeah, I absolutely prefer to Trakmaster over the 270s off road. A little rougher on road, and they do wear funny but they are non directional so you can spin them to get more life out of them. It's almost paddle like in the soft stuff but not too squrrely on road. I can't remember for sure now, but I don't think the Trakmaster lasts quite as long as the K270, but I prefer the traction so I make that sacrifice.
Just for clarity, I'm not a big fan of the Trakmaster on the front, only out back.
da Vermonster