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[revmaaatin]

Hello List-- Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. LINK: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447606&page=8 LINK TEXT/COMMENT: Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - sorta like hand-propping an airplane....

[RobertWichert]

The suggestion was to do it in high gear, which I would think to be nearly impossible.  First or second gear, maybe.  Maybe I'll try it. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068

On 1/21/2010 2:22 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   Hello List-- Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. LINK: http://www.advrider .com/forums/ showthread. php?t=447606& page=8 LINK TEXT/COMMENT: Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - sorta like hand-propping an airplane....

[Kevin Powers]

I took a look at that ride report. That gentleman serves as an excellent example of how not to do things. We may read about him in the Darwin Awards some day. -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin wrote: Hello List-- Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. LINK: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447606&page=8 LINK TEXT/COMMENT: Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - sorta like hand-propping an airplane....

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-605683926 p {margin:0;}I don't think I've ever read about someone going off as ill-prepared as that.  It is only blind chance that he's still alive.  He was definitely riding above his ability. He rode some of the toughest routes in Baja ALONE with a bike that he KNEW to be failing before he left, he didn't carry enough water in case of  getting stranded, didn't even take purification tablets for scavenged water.  What a moron! (and I don't publicly deride people very often.) There's a fine line between hardcore and idiocy.  He seriously reminds me of the guy who went alone to Alaska to film bears, only to end up being bear poop.  This is what happens when you think you're superman. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Powers" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:26:03 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Last Ditch Start Attempt   I took a look at that ride report.  That gentleman serves as an excellent example of how not to do things.  We may read about him in the Darwin Awards some day. -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   Hello List-- Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. LINK: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447606&page=8 LINK TEXT/COMMENT: Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - sorta like hand-propping an airplane....

[Jud]

I just looked at enough to get the gist. It looks like he's riding a DR650. I have yet to find the gear in which to bump start my DR. I have not tried 5th yet, but 1 through 4 just leave skid marks on the pavement.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I took a look at that ride report. That gentleman serves as an excellent > example of how not to do things. We may read about him in the Darwin Awards > some day. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin wrote: > > > > > > > Hello List-- > > > > Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful > > knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter > > spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit > > of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the > > same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario > > and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. > > > > LINK: > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447606&page=8 > > > > LINK TEXT/COMMENT: > > Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times > > when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've > > seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so > > the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - > > sorta like hand-propping an airplane.... > > > > > > >

[fasteddiecopeman]

Jud, He was on a KLR600. (at least for the part where he crashed without a starter) Ed --

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > Jud, > He was on a KLR600. (at least for the part where he crashed without a starter) > Ed

Ed, His post indicates that it would be a XR600. I am in heated agreement with others here: It is quite educational to read his post--as some of you have commented earlier; it certainly should be prefaced, "Don't try this at home." As I read it in its entirety, I had to think, could this really all be true? shrug. ie. "I carried the bike up the hill." \ hmmmm. Folks like that keep other professions in business. and busy. and sometimes, I get the last word (unfortunately). Back to the original intent--starting the bike by turning the wheel; I think it would still require some one to turn the wheel as fast as they could and another dump the clutch. The KLR 650 has the compression release and seemed plausible to me that it might just work. However, having pushed a KLR 650 to start it, I think it took everything that 3 people could do to make it start (4th gear) on a slight grade down hill. There is the attendant danger of breaking some fingers or a hand as well. On second thought--this is not as plausible as the original writer suggested--but worth investigating in the spring. revmaaatin.

[denvowell@aol.com]

I have both dumped the clutch on a slight down hill.and been pushed  to get started. 2nd gear  no prolbem. Dennis A18

[RobertWichert]

I used to bump start my old two-stroke triple all the time.  In second.  The "trick" was letting out the clutch precisely when my butt hit the seat.  I saw road racers doing it all the time in the movies, so I figured it was no big deal.  It worked on that bike, but I expect the 650 single to be a whole lot harder. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068  ========================================================

On 1/22/2010 11:32 AM, Jud wrote:   I just looked at enough to get the gist. It looks like he's riding a DR650. I have yet to find the gear in which to bump start my DR. I have not tried 5th yet, but 1 through 4 just leave skid marks on the pavement. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I took a look at that ride report. That gentleman serves as an excellent > example of how not to do things. We may read about him in the Darwin Awards > some day. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin mjearl@... wrote: > > > > > > > Hello List-- > > > > Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful > > knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter > > spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit > > of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the > > same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario > > and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. > > > > LINK: > > http://www.advrider .com/forums/ showthread. php?t=447606& page=8 > > > > LINK TEXT/COMMENT: > > Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times > > when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've > > seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so > > the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - > > sorta like hand-propping an airplane.... > > > > > > >

[Chris Long]

I have started my 08 by pushing it while standing on the left side in first gear. I thought it was pretty easy. That was flat. I imagine uphill would be more trouble. Chris Long Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 22, 2010, at 3:37 PM, "revmaaatin" wrote:

--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > Jud, > He was on a KLR600. (at least for the part where he crashed without a starter) > Ed Ed, His post indicates that it would be a XR600. I am in heated agreement with others here: It is quite educational to read his post--as some of you have commented earlier; it certainly should be prefaced, "Don't try this at home." As I read it in its entirety, I had to think, could this really all be true? shrug. ie. "I carried the bike up the hill." \ hmmmm. Folks like that keep other professions in business. and busy. and sometimes, I get the last word (unfortunately). Back to the original intent--starting the bike by turning the wheel; I think it would still require some one to turn the wheel as fast as they could and another dump the clutch. The KLR 650 has the compression release and seemed plausible to me that it might just work. However, having pushed a KLR 650 to start it, I think it took everything that 3 people could do to make it start (4th gear) on a slight grade down hill. There is the attendant danger of breaking some fingers or a hand as well. On second thought--this is not as plausible as the original writer suggested--but worth investigating in the spring. revmaaatin.