buying a bike with ignition interlock ???

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-1107093891 p {margin:0;}OK. I went and read the New Mexico Law. http://law.justia.com/newmexico/codes/n ... -7005.html The interlocks are provided by contracted vendors and there is no mention of any penalty for tampering or removing them if you are not the offender.  If an offender tampers with them and drives/rides without one, it is the same as driving on a suspended license. Disable away! -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Khoury" To: richarddecker@... Cc: "KLR List" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:18:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Buying a bike with Ignition Interlock ???   **WARNING** Unqualified opinion follows...    Rick is most likely right, but that won't stop me! This is all conjectured opinion, and I've been painting a small room all day, so I might be a little high. If the new owner was not under a court-ordered mandate to have it installed, it would be very hard to make that stick... just a guess.  At that point, it becomes an accessory that the new owner simply reverted to a stock, safe and legal condition.  He may be obligated to return it to its rightful owner (the P.D. or whomever) but removing a device you are not mandated to have probably won't get you in much trouble.  But as stated before, I am definitely not a lawyer. Here in The People's Republic of California it's illegal to modify your motorcycle's fuel, air or exhaust system in any way that deviates from its stock configuration, yet straight-piped Ha rleys misalign my chi on a daily basis, without even so much as a lifted eyebrow from the fuzz.  My KLR is a big, rolling mass of illegality, because I have modified all three.  (tweetyectomy, carb shim and drill, airbox "L" mod, de-californicated, etc.).  Until they start inspecting bikes (which is a possibility, but I don't think it's likely), I'm in good shape.  Heck, I would have left the Evaporative Emission Control if it weren't in the way of adjusting the rear suspension.  The average J.Q. Law here doesn't give a rat's behind about bike mods. And I suppose the first time one of those malfunctions on the freeway and kills the ignition on a motorcycle causing an injury or death, the lawsuit will probably be astronomical.  When I was googling them, I found that most states will not even install them on motorcycles.  I guesstimate the safety factor is probably involved. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Decker" To: "Jeff Khoury" Cc: "jguarfn28" , "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:45:49 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Buying a bike with Ignition Interlock ??? They inturrupt the power to the ignition system/ECU/etc.  On a bike it probably is disconnecting the wire to the CDI or coil.  Depending on where you are, it may be a felony to remove it. -Rich On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote:   I just re-read your post and figured out it was a DUI interlock! Remove the damned thing first!  God/Jehovah/Allah only knows what that thing is doing, but it can't possibly be that hard to remove. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jguarfn28" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:43:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Buying a bike with Ignition Interlock ???   I'm looking at a used bike who's owner was sentenced to an ignition interlock on it. It has low miles,(730)but currently will not start even when he blows into it, so I can't hear the engine run. I have heard that it, (Ignition Interlock) needs to warm up, so could it being outside affect the ability or the sensor to let it start? The guy's a cancer patient now and needs to sell the bike. It's a Suzuki GS500 that turns over but will not fire. I'd like to see/hear the engine run before I buy it. Is this a bad idea? It is low on fuel so I am thinking about dumping a couple of gallons of premium with a can of seafoam in the tank and see what happens. Suggestions??? Thanks Rick

-- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

[jeepaviation]

Now that I need to open the right side case to perform a water pump seal replacement, while I am in there... Question, How long has your OEM clutch lasted? My 06KLR is at 30000 miles and I may want to replace the clutch pack if it is close to needing replacement.

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-1789871004 p {margin:0;}I've heard on forums (how reliable-???) that some people have gotten up to 85K on their clutches.  I've also heard from other sources that the plates used in the KLR are the same part number as some 900cc sportsmonster, so therefore it could be conjectured that they'll outlast the rest of the KLR unless you're a trail-riding clutch-slipping madman. reference: http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=70516 -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "jeepaviation" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:55:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] OEM Clutch life?   Now that I need to open the right side case to perform a water pump seal replacement, while I am in there... Question, How long has your OEM clutch lasted? My 06KLR is at 30000 miles and I may want to replace the clutch pack if it is close to needing replacement.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "jeepaviation" wrote:

> > Now that I need to open the right side case to perform a water pump seal replacement, while I am in there... > > Question, How long has your OEM clutch lasted? My 06KLR is at 30000 miles and I may want to replace the clutch pack if it is close to needing replacement. >

Jeeps- Clutch life is largely a function of (ab)use; not mileage; but you know that. smile. I have to agree with the others--I believe we have a pretty good clutch. The only weakness might be the springs; but I have a very limited data point to support that (it follows). During the 08' GDR, the 'klrbugeater', my riding companion -aka John- and I rode into the Great Basin when the conditions were >5% above our skill level. A wet miserable mess. Well, maybe not above MY skill level. cough. I still have the limp to prove it, yet I digress. John's clutch blew up--after some 60 miles of tacky roads with many 25-100yard stretches of unrelenting mud. Our rear wheels would load up with mud resulting in multiple episodes of packing of our rear/front wheels with mud. Finally, John's bike just wouldn't go--necessitating a rescue and repair at Riverton Kawasaki Powersports. BTW: Stellar folks. The fiber-plates were largely stripped of their fiber and the steel plates were all discolored-blue. (note: ~7K smiles) Someone last year had the same thing happen on NM coming N and had their clutch blow up in the gumbo roads scenario. As I had ridden in the same mess, (~29K smiles) and had also packed my rear wheel with mud,--but still had a working clutch-- I thought it prudent to order a replacement clutch/steel plates. Fellow poster Jeff Saline did that for me, and they were in hand when I got to Rapid City some 7 days later. Surprisingly, the clutch plates all miked to usable tolerance, each steel plate was checked against a granite table for warp-age--all good. One steel plate was slightly discolored, but without warp age. What was out of tolerance were the springs. Every one of them was below mins, ie shorter than specified by Hoyle. Nevertheless, in the 32K mile bike =arrival in Rapid City, we put in the new plates, clutch and springs--as I am a long term keeper of bikes--removing all doubt about the clutch condition. Over kill--perhaps. I often ride long distance alone, and I want to certain of what I am depending on. It was open, the new parts were there: do a transplant and move on. and I had adult supervision; which I require. smile. I now have an emergency back up in the 'spares'. Jeeps- If you should order new clutch plates, pay attention to the way the steel plates are installed/removed. There is an inside, outside of those plates =orientation of facing the engine, or facing outward when installed properly. Clutch Failure: Why John and not me as well?--I think it had to do with the speed that I rode through the mud, =better self cleaning, and perhaps the difference in tires. I had a K270, and I think John had a D606, but not for sure (Maybe he will tell us). Gumbo is a tough ride, and the clearance between the tire and swing arm fills up quickly as it rolls of your tire and packs the spaces, to include the chain, CS, CS cover, and clearance between the muffler--as well as the space under the fork brace if one is installed. IMO, the current offerings for fork-braces are not appropriate for muddy (gumbo) conditions due to their minimum clearances. They fill up with mud and that ends your steering ability when the wheel will not turn. Yes, Virginia, it has happened to me in SD, MT and WY. revmaaatin.