Wilsons Sandbox

Greg and Mike. I am looking at my DeLorme for the area (Wyoming, p.62). The road that turns off US14 is FH10, which runs over the mountain and up to A14 near the Medicine wheel. I have done that ride, in the opposite direction. Greg, from your descriptions of the road, your photo, and the map, I am guessing you took the picture after turning off FH10 onto what looks like FR216, or else from the end of FR219, which branches off FR216 to the south. The map also shows a FR218, which would appear to branch off FR216 and drop into the canyon to become FR263, which would emerge on US14 near the falls. I am skeptical that anything in there could be negotiable by KLR, or indeed anything less nimble than a goat, but it might be entertaining to find out. For a younger, fitter guy, that is. That is some steep country. The map also shows a Horse Creek road which goes along the creek from Shell, on US14, up to FH10. I have poked around in that area, probably on what appears as FR207, but never found a way down the canyon to Horse Creek, although the map shows that such a road exists.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, greg saunders wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > I dont' have access to my maps at the moment. From Burgess Junction head South about 10-12 miles; then go West on a dirt road; then South by SouthWest on a smaller dirt road that turns into an ATV type trail. That trail deadends at this photo. If you look closely you can see Highway 14 way down in the picture. It just looks like a wavy line. > > > > When we arrived at this find we were curious as to how high up we were and so we found a rock about the size of a football and threw it over the edge. Then we listened quietly and counted seconds until we heard it land. We never did hear it land. > > > > Take care, > > > > Greg > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: mlatk_popoagie@... > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:22:36 -0800 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] RE: > > > > > > > > I've ridden through the southern Big Horns a lot, is that photo over near red grade above Story or over on the northwest side? > MuddyShoeMike > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 >

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> > > When we arrived at this find we were curious as to how high up we were and so we found a rock about the size of a football and threw it over the edge. Then we listened quietly and counted seconds until we heard it land. We never did hear it land. > > Take care,

There is no intent to throw stones here (no pun intended)-- just an open discussion of what we do affects others. Sometimes catastrophically. You will notice--there is no NKLR warning as the original msg is gleaned from a KLR post--the incident described appears to have occurred during a KLR ride. I of course have no way of 'seeing' what this rider saw, or the 'due care' that was exercised when the rock was dropped over the edge... but that does not keep me from commenting here. What do you suppose a hiker struck, or might have been struck by that rock, thought when struck by a rock from above (a hazard of hiking or climbing)--that it was a random act of God that he/she was killed by that rock? A free climber would have been in just as much danger--by a football rock from above. Such as what I describe above, is called the unintended consequences of our actions- I have had two of these incidents in the past 6 months-- You will recall that last spring, I posted that I was, or should have been killed on my KLR in a head-on collision by two approaching vehicles playing NASCAR. Their nighttime, high speed approach was made towards me without any intention of letting my use my lane--forcing me to the shoulder as our closure rate--at a minimum exceeded 150, if not 180+mph. The second-- It was a very near incident to me--only yesterday. While my son and I were on a stalk for four bedded down buck deer, road hunters pulled up opposite of us 1/4 mile away and started WWIII on the deer. One round passed within a few feet, if not inches, of us. When they 'finally' saw us, they jumped in their vehicle and sped away. My only hope, was that they at least said, take care. revmaaatin. PS. KLR content we left the prairie fields and came home for a 50mile, 50F KLR sunset ride. We certainly felt a lot safer on the bike than in the fields. PPS. Alone this evening, I invited a nice 8pt buck home for dinner; he crawled up on my luggage rack and followed me home. He his presently hanging out with three KLR's at 29F.