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3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:56 pm
by spike55_bmw
It's official, installed my 3rd upgrade with the torsion spring: 2006 (mine), 2008 (brother's), and a 2005 (friend's). This one was different though. In the past, I was able to pull the torsion spring around and hook it into the doo (drilled the super-tight hole on the left side of flang) using my big long nose pliers. This time no-go. I had to grind a small taper around the base (backside) of the doo. Hook the spring in the flang and then into the doo. Then I had to manually whined the doo & spring combo until it slipped on the shaft but... This method more times than not gets one or two coils of the spring under the doo and the doo is not flush with the tightening land. The slight taper I ground on the doo's backside acted like a circular wedge and centered the coils around the base of the doo and allowed the doo slide right down the middle on the shaft. Now it is flush with the flang's land for proper tightening. I didn't have to grind the backside of the one-way starting gear's spokes as before. Maybe there are less coils on the newer springs? Three on this one. Seems to work fine. Upon start up, no scrapping noises - all good. Now I have to deal with the metal skidplate with messed up allen-head bolts. Don R100, A6F

3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:54 pm
by transalp 1
The torsion spring kit I got for my 09' was a bear to install when it came time to fit the spring,too. (tiiiight) Looking at the new doohickey vs. the OEM part, it fit on the shaft perfectly. But, it was indexed/rotated differently in relation to the shaft hole. The aftermarket one was turned farther and I was wondering if I needed to redrill the anchor hole several degrees counter clockwise to get the spring to fit. We got it on. It wasn't easy, though. Of course, the new doo went on with > [Original Message] > From: spike55_bmw > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 10/6/2009 1:57:00 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] 3rd Doohickey Upgrade > > It's official, installed my 3rd upgrade with the torsion spring: 2006
(mine), 2008 (brother's), and a 2005 (friend's). This one was different though. In the past, I was able to pull the torsion spring around and hook it into the doo (drilled the super-tight hole on the left side of flang) using my big long nose pliers. This time no-go.
> > I had to grind a small taper around the base (backside) of the doo. Hook
the spring in the flang and then into the doo. Then I had to manually whined the doo & spring combo until it slipped on the shaft but... This method more times than not gets one or two coils of the spring under the doo and the doo is not flush with the tightening land. The slight taper I ground on the doo's backside acted like a circular wedge and centered the coils around the base of the doo and allowed the doo slide right down the middle on the shaft. Now it is flush with the flang's land for proper tightening.
> > I didn't have to grind the backside of the one-way starting gear's spokes
as before. Maybe there are less coils on the newer springs? Three on this one. Seems to work fine. Upon start up, no scrapping noises - all good. Now I have to deal with the metal skidplate with messed up allen-head bolts.
> > Don R100, A6F >

3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:25 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:56:48 -0000 "spike55_bmw" writes: SNIP Now I have to deal with the metal skidplate with
> messed up allen-head bolts. > > Don R100, A6F
<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Don, If the bolts are still installed and the sockethead is messed up here's a suggestion for removal. Get a nut for each bolt. Something that is thick and maybe has a hole just smaller than the outside diameter of the bolt head. Take the bike to an exhaust shop and ask them to weld the nuts to the heads of the bolts. They just plug weld the center of the nuts to the bolt heads. Then put a wrench on the outside of the nut and back the nut and bolt out. I had to do this on my bike his year. It works best if you weld the nut on the bolt with the messed up head. : ) I had to buy two bolts to fix the original one damaged bolt after welding the nut on the wrong bolt the first time. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Click for online loan, fast & no lender fee, approval today http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIpd4yVaqClxHKSubgVSMvbjbTQXGCWzL0sdsj0gefMuyMsTnxBi4/

3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:05 am
by Monty
Don - Thought I'd read that the new model KLR's had addressed the "doohickey" issue. This isn't correct? Amazing they could leave the issue open after finally making significant changes to the bike. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:36 am
by spike55_bmw
Kawi did change the Doo on the 2008-forward. It is a heavier cast piece of metal vs the thin, brittle, welded together unit in the pre-2008 KLRs. My brother wanted the billet stainless steel Doo (still much better than OEM) and spring upgrade, so I did it. I'm not sure if someone could just address the tension to torsion spring conversion and utilize the improved OEM Doo. If you can, I'd only spend the --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Monty wrote: > > Don - Thought I'd read that the new model KLR's had addressed the "doohickey" issue. This isn't correct? > > Amazing they could leave the issue open after finally making significant changes to the bike. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

3rd doohickey upgrade

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:59 am
by k650
> What are perople's thoughts on what happens if the counter-balance shaft > chains are a bit loose other than noise and wear on the internal plastic > sliders? > > Don R100, A6F >
I'm not a perople but my thought is that a bit loose is OK so long as vibration does not increase. Should it become loose enough to increase vibration then it is too loose. Walt

nklr - ticka-ticka sounds ???

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:18 pm
by spike55_bmw
You guy are over-thinking this. It seems like he fixed the issue with a thicker shim. Now I want to talk about the German SS and US Army re-enactors we came across (on our KLRs) dis-embarking from vintage military vehicles in one of PA's south-central state forest areas. The US troops were fighting (a lot of automatic weapons fire) their way uphill with Thompson sub-machine guns, etc, blazing away. After the US troops waved us through, further up the road we came across a German machine gun 'nest' behind a bridge guard rail and a big German general standing in the back of a vintage German transport vehicle. Further up the road were the German motorcycle troops eating lunch beside their flat-head BMWs with side-cars. Several signs along the road indicated the kilometers to Pinsburg (sp?). By the end of the climb, we stopped to check for holes. Eventually we saw a plain paper sign that stated "Military Exercises, Blank Firing, Not Open To The Public". Now, would a Harley rider ever have a story like that? Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "k650" wrote: > > > It might be interesting to measure the shim with a barrel-type caliper to > > see if it is the same thickness at the edge, as well as the center where > > the cam touches. > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > That would be interesting. They are probably ground parallel although it > could be possible they are convex. > Automotive lifters of yore were not flat but ground on about a 30 inch > radius to promote rotation for even wear. > > Walt > > > Atheism --- is a non-prophet organization. >