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has anyone done or thought about using 1/4 turn self retaining fastener (dzus for example)on the side panels of the klr. just wondering about application, cost and performance. later jeff ball Webmail Nortecnet http://www.nortecnet.com.br

Would be worried about vibration effect on a 1/4 turn retainer. Did remout mine with nylon machine type screws after a few destructive mishaps. Mounted to loops around Tim's radiator guards. Not flashy but works well. Todd A9

----- Original Message ----- From: "Divina Moreira" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] side panel fasteners > has anyone done or thought about using 1/4 turn self retaining > fastener (dzus for example)on the side panels of the klr. just > wondering about application, cost and performance. > later > jeff ball > > > Webmail Nortecnet > http://www.nortecnet.com.br > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

"Knock in motor" might have something to do with timing. Might be worthwhile to verify that the valves are timed with rotor. If they are OK, you might want to pull the rotor to make sure you didn't 'run-over' the key rather than getting it into the slot. That will screw up the timing. Yeh, don't ask how I know. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kolbike" wrote: > > Ok, I waited to long to do the valves. One ex. valve was tight, put all new shims in and now I have a knock in the motor. I have rechecked the valve gaps, all is good. After this I adjusted the balencer chain tension. Main thought is ex. valve was not closing right before, now not closing because of blow by left overs. The bike runs good if not better now with noise. 2000 KLR with 55K miles Does anybody have other ideas? Thank You >

I reduced the number of times the side panels will have to be removed by 10 fold simply by changing to a maint. free battery. Still, any time you need to remove the seat, you have to undo four small bolts & take off the side panels. It got me to thinking: What if the panels had quick disconnect fasteners? Aircraft ball lock pins came to mind. But, they are special order and crazy, stupid expensive (along the lines of $25 each).... AND, I'd have to drill out the threaded holes - effectively eliminating going back to OEM fasteners. To make matters worse, the front two pins would probably protrude from the bolt holes and be a nuisance. Then I considered Dzus 1/4 turn fasteners. Neat. But, still require lots of mods. Has anyone come up with a simple, quality replacement for these bolts that would allow rapid, easy side panel removal? Electrical wire ties don't count. eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:29:17 -0400 "transalp 1" writes:

> I reduced the number of times the side panels will have to be removed > by 10 fold simply by changing to a maint. free battery. > Still, any time you need to remove the seat, you have to undo four > small bolts & take off the side panels. > It got me to thinking: What if the panels had quick disconnect > fasteners? Aircraft ball lock pins came to mind. > But, they are special order and crazy, stupid expensive (along the > lines of $25 each).... AND, I'd have to drill out the threaded holes > - > effectively eliminating going back to OEM fasteners. To make matters > worse, the front two pins would probably protrude from the bolt > holes > and be a nuisance. Then I considered Dzus 1/4 turn fasteners. Neat. > But, still require lots of mods. > > Has anyone come up with a simple, quality replacement for these > bolts that would allow rapid, easy side panel removal? > Electrical wire ties don't count. > > eddie

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> eddie, I don't have an issue with the stock set up as it works well for me. Two things I've seen that worked well for the riders using modified fastening systems are: - Leave the bolts out of the seat tabs and have a lift off seat. No need to remove the side panels just to get under the seat. If a battery needs to be removed you still have to remove the left side cover. - Drill a hole through the side covers for easy access to the seat bolts. I've seen two versions with just the stock seat bolts and also one I helped a guy with in 2004. He took two longer bolts and put nuts on them in the appropriate position so they would lock the seat in place. I welded the nuts in place and then also welded a flat washer on the end of each bolt so it could act like a wing nut. The washers were just proud of the side covers but that didn't seem to bother the owner. Now, thinking about the question I see I didn't answer it at all as you wanted to know about easy side cover fastening. : ) I recall hearing about but haven't seen someone using heavy duty Velcro to hold them on. Or maybe that was holding the seat on. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Click to find the latest solutions to enhance your small business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTI97vpeBJc9Z2SPRmIld8VBt5TkDVBpVyhJqEmrqaln3wyBgDExME/

I put a little velcro on the frame rails and seat to hold the seat in place. My seat bolt and washer are currently doing duty on a friends DR650 exhuast. Oh, and the maintenance-free battery rocks! Kevin

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:06 PM, transalp 1 wrote: > > > Thanks, guys! > > Longer bolts. Subtle holes in the covers. I see my next project at hand. > I really like the permanent washer idea. One of the metal collars where the > seat bolts go through has fallen free more than once. Even after I tried > gluing them with 3M weatherstrip adhesive. > > > eddie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]